Did you know that people have well understood the earth to be a sphere for about 500 years, at least in terms of modern history?

Ancient civilizations also understood the earth wasn't flat and knew it had to be spherical because of the appearance of ships at sea. They could only see them coming in to a harbor when they were about 3 miles away.

They would observe the tops of the masts before they could see the rest of the ship.

Going out to sea they would observe the opposite affect, where the masts were the last thing to be seen of the ship.

You're ridiculous memes don't have any bit of common sense and appear to be created by someone who never opened a book beyond comic books.

Their images sometimes flicker where the ISS they're supposedly speaking from doesn't and that spells only one thing: f-r-a-u-d.

We've covered the ISS and I shot it down.

We know the ISS is up there because we can follow it's transits with our own commercially available telescopes , that said, any scrutiny applied to what they say is from the inside of the iss reveals many many issues.

So the question might become, "if it is really up there what in the fuck would be the point of faking footage from the inside"?

To which I would respond, why wouldn't they? Why would they reveal the inner workings of the issues to the world and public at large including enemy nations that we would rather not see utilizing our technology.

I mean look at Iran. One of our server drones crashed there and with in a year they reverse engineered our predator drones.

If the footage was legit and real rouge states all over would be all over that.

No better survalence platform on earth or rather from low earth orbit.

So if you're in the middle of the ocean and you're 6 feet tall, you can only see an area of about 9 square miles.

Gee whiz, was I trying to fool you to see who if any would catch my mistake, or did I do it by accident...

I was thinking in terms of a square. But if you can see 3 miles 360 degrees, then it is not a square, it is a circle.

The area of a square is the length of the square times the width, so the area A is the length * width of that square;

So a 3 mile(length) * 3 mile(width) square is 9 square miles in area(A).

A circle however has a different formula for area. We use the radius, 3 miles, to calculate the area as follows;

Area (A) = Pi * Radius Squared (r²)

So given a 3 mile radius, Area = 3.14 * (3 miles * 3 miles) = 28.6 square miles

So if you were in the middle of the ocean, being 6 foot tall, you'd be able to see a total of 28.6 square miles.

Gee whiz, why is that I wonder. Ever wonder why they'd position lookouts on ships into Crow's nest?

Isn't math cool?

Am eagerly awaiting your explanation why NASA spokesmen including astronots are yammering about finally getting people into outer space as if Apollo never existed.

What the hell are you talking about dude?

Perhaps they meant the PUBLIC?

I skip really whacked out videos, but if you have definitive proof of what you claim, repost it if I missed something..

We know the ISS is up there

All we know, my friend, is that something is up there. Ample evidence -- I'd say proof -- exists that it's not what's claimed.

I've posted it plenty -- look it up if you want (you won't). "I skip really whacked out videos" -- read my lips, these are NASA productions.

Bro I'm not going to fish through 200 posts and view an unknown number of videos to try to find something close to what you're talking about.

If you have proof of what you claim, you should be able to easily repost it.

One question though. Why do you think men couldn't orbit the earth in a space capsule, shuttle, or space station?

One question though. Why do you think men couldn't orbit the earth in a space capsule, shuttle, or space station?

Because NASA says so.

Because NASA says so.

So far I've only seen YOU saying that. Post credible references if any exist.

Because NASA says so.

Without using that nonsensical argument, why do you think men can't orbit the earth?

We can travel in planes, some of which approach the edge of space in terms of military aircraft.

A space vessel is just a tightly pressured plane without wings. It's not magic bro.

Post credible references if any exist.

Search it here yourself if you're that interested (you're not).

Search it here yourself if you're that interested (you're not).

So in other words you don't know of any evidence, or are not interested in debating the issue, you just want people to believe you without any evidence whatsoever.

Sorry bro, I don't believe you.

"Nonsensical argument" -- ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!

More like non-existent argument.

The Elite often co-opt BOTH sides. I'm sure you're aware of their ploys.

"Nonsensical argument"

This analogy works because it applies:

I don't know many Third Graders who can understand learned subject matter from a senior in HS. Even if explained carefully to a Third Grader, the extra nine years of accumulated information from the HS Seniors will rarely "make sense" for obvious reasons. Ergo the Third Grader will dismiss it as "stupid."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjw_DuNkOUw

NASA, their org, their "Missions," their "science," the entire Disney-like Theater:

ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED and ANNIHILATED.

What say you?

does it have anything to do with "NASA's spiritual roots" and a "fixed earth"?

hate to sound like a broken record, but titles, please? I can't see anything here but a message about a security certificate.

I apologize, Kings; I shouldn't assume. I hope you can assess this or any of these amazing videos.

TITLE:

'Disney Presents: NASA on Thin Ice | Buzz Aldrin and the Masonic Moon'

(but it's much more than about that.)

does it have anything to do with "NASA's spiritual roots" and a "fixed earth"?

YES.

Some necessary history is reviewed. Some Science is reviewed. And many claims and observations are reviewed AND exposed.

NASA's roots are Nazi, Disney, Space Program, and Cultist "Magic"/Wizardry.

https://youtu.be/ZR296RWS0yM

AUTHOR'S OVERVIEW:

Disney Presents: NASA on Thin Ice | Buzz Aldrin and the Masonic Moon.

Disney brings the magic to life with Jack Parsons, L Ron Hubbard, Wernher Von Braun, Stanley Kubrick, Buzz Aldrin and the Apollo Program.

In this video we go over the recent history of the NASA deception with a easy to follow timeline from NACA transforming into NASA to Walt Disney creating some of the very first propaganda about impossible space travel with the film 'Man in Space.

Stanley Kubrick leaving us clues about filming the moon landing in room 237. They say the moon is 237,000 miles away which is why the room is called that.

NASA admits on several occasions that they can't go beyond low earth orbit due to the deadly Van Allen Radiation Belt, but that's only code for the firmament / dome.

We live on a level and stationary plane and we've been lied to about many things, including evolution, the moon landing, space travel, Antarctica, the shape of the earth, etc. Hollywood is constantly bomarding the minds of the masses with the idea that outer space exists in the capacity we are told by mainstream science which has been proven wrong time and time again.

OTHER WELL-RESEARCHED VIDEOS BY THIS AUTHOR:

The Case for Flat Earth | ODD TV Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udts...

NASA Fails Again & Again | Space is Fake | Glitch on the ISS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS0VN...

History of Fake Space | Outer Space Does Not Exist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss7QT...

Flat Earth Timeline | The History of Flat Earth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIB2U...

A Stranger's Guide to Flat Earth | 21 Questions and Answers (Proving The Earth Is Flat):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xCl...

Journey to the Center of the Flat Earth | North Pole Hidden Land:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhZI...

Flat Earth | As Seen on TV | Movies & Television Shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jnse...

Bill Nye Indoctrinates the World | Why Flat Earth Matters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jyLG...

Flat Earth | Amber Plaster | Earth Not A Globe | Moana - How Far I'll Go Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5HJ...

Flat Earth & Project Blue Beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFFM3...

Flat Earth | Seven Planets of the Universe | The Wandering Stars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQOh...

Flat Earth & the Fisheye Lens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkCg...

NASA Can't Go Beyond Low Earth Orbit | Flat Earth Firmament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmoiw...

Flat Earth | 100% Proof Space Travel is Fake & Mars Missions are Too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9i97...

ODD TV's Flat Earth Trilogy | True World, Learning Curve and Epic Deception:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARp2j...

Neil deGrasse Tyson Exposed | Hollywood Actor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcqFD...

I don't know many Third Graders who can understand learned subject matter from a senior in HS. Even if explained carefully to a Third Grader, the extra nine years of accumulated information from the HS Seniors will rarely "make sense" for obvious reasons. Ergo the Third Grader will dismiss it as "stupid."

Apparently you didn't read what was being discussed. The simple question was about posting a link to the proof of an assertion that was claimed to be the basis for the assertion.

Here's a question for you.

Why do objects fall to the ground if dropped?

Go find a telescope and observe the stars and planets. You'll see that is the case.

Also, find one with a motorized mount so that the earth's rotation doesn't make you lose track of the planet you're watching, as it'll move across the lens in seconds if you're trying to do it manually.

Why do objects fall to the ground if dropped?

Simple case of Mass & Density.

(There is almost an hour of video that refutes it. You likely won't watch even 5 minutes of it, BUT, you just might learn something.)

There is NO such thing as "Gravity." Yes, yes -- I know you're going to cite Newton. But Newton even admitted his "discovery" was just a THEORY.

I stopped watching it there.

However, the link between JPL,Crowley, and Hubbard was a very curious thing. I've known about it, but it doesn't change the fact the earth is not flat.

Simple case of Mass & Density.

No. You need a force to move an object.

Force is Mass * Acceleration

When you push a box across the floor you have to exert a force upon that box for it to move.

You apparently have no clue as to the fact people have known that the earth was a sphere orbiting the sun for at least 500 years.

People have merely theorized the Heliocentric model as dogma. Just as "Gravity" is a dogmatic "theory"; as are the alleged formulas for astronomical "distance," and "size" of alleged stars.

It is also assumed that celestial bodies are indeed globes and NOT discs. Man can NOT see these objects in 3-D.

Moreover, "stars" are not what we've been led to believe. The true shape of these objects is far from what we've been led to believe.

For the vast majority of history, people have KNOWN our realm is still and un-moving. Ours is a geocentric realm. a great PLAIN.

The stars? THEY move over EARTH as we remain stationary. If this wasn't the case, according to the heliocentric theory, the stars in the sky SHOULD be totally different were our alleged globe on the OTHER SIDE of the sun. (Can you explain why they remain positioned in EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE, regardless?) Moreover...because the stars remain positioned perfectly, predictably, and the SAME year in and year out, they've been used as THE perfect sky "map" from which to guide travelers or navigate the sea throughout the millennia.

Go find a telescope and observe the stars and planets. You'll see that is the case.

Others have done so. Repeatedly. THAT is "Science." The ABOVE is indeed proven.

And yes --the ONLY celestial bodies which move opposite of the usual star paths ARE planets,, described as "wondering stars" in Scripture.

You need a force to move an object.

(did you bother watching ANY of that vid?)

What does "force" have to do with the necessity to "move an object"? What is the goal?

When you push a box across the floor you have to exert a force upon that box for it to move.

Ok. That's acceptable science. But what's he point?

Force of Gravity (g) = Mass (m) * Acceleration due to gravity (32 ft per second squared)

This is true of earth gravity at sea level.

At higher altitudes you would use the following equation to determine the force;

F = G((m1* m2)/r²).

Where F is force, G is the gravitational constant, m1 is the mass of object 1, and m2 is the mass of object 2. r is the distance between their centers of mass. In the formula it is squared.

Is is how we put objects into space and keep them in orbit.

It's also what makes plotting the trajectory of ballistic missiles difficult, as the force of gravity changes the higher the missile goes.

...it asserts that the video is somehow "fake" at the bottom of the screen. That is absurd.

At 4:23, what point is being made, and what context?

I need more than that.

(did you dismiss or discredit all of what was claimed up till that point?)

the link between JPL,Crowley, and Hubbard was a very curious thing. I've known about it, but it doesn't change the fact the earth is not flat.

I appreciate that you did focus on the info...and what you'd watched even to that point. I absolutely realize all of this "opposite" or new stuff related to our realm, the cosmos, theories on creation and time are challenging. (and some of it "impossible.")

No one point is designed to change your mind on anything; That's all up to you. It is the eventual weight of accumulative new info and data that helped *me* understand and/or unravel/re-consider all new theories. (That the govt, MSM, academe, and PTB have been lying to us about everything is what finally led me to re-consider what I'd been told is "100% true.")

At 4:23, what point is being made, and what context?

I need more than that.

I told you where to look. It asserts that the Gemini video of the space walk is fake.

And do you flat earth people not understand that the force of gravity is calculated as follows?

Force of Gravity (g) = Mass (m) * Acceleration due to gravity (32 ft per second squared)

This is true of earth gravity at sea level.

"Formulas" on a chalkboard still aren't definitive "proof" of the existence of "Gravity."

There's air pressure to consider -- as well as mass and density in relation to the mass and density of surrounding media.

It asserts that the Gemini video of the space walk is fake.

It IS.

But for the sake of argument, do you believe the "space walk" event is occurring in low earth orbit?

Don't confuse the fantasy realm with the objective world we live in.

There are some that have dabbled into things that they shouldn't have.

Perhaps for that reason we have some extremely evil people running things.

But the earth is still a sphere, and the sun is but one star out of an unimaginable number.

There's air pressure to consider -- as well as mass and density in relation to the mass and density of surrounding media.

You would still have gravity in a vacuum.

That and density does not affect the weight.

Mass is the amount of matter regardless of the weight, as weight is actually the force of gravity upon that object.

In Metric units, we use the actual mass of the object and represent it in grams. Kilograms (1000)gram units are more generally used, especially in scientific calculations, where the MKS (Meters, Kilograms, and seconds) are the established units for distance, mass, and time.

Weight in the Metric system is measured in Newtons.

Weight is Force, in this case the force of gravity.

But any force is measured in Newtons.

the link between JPL,Crowley, and Hubbard was a very curious thing.

It is curious...(don't forget the Disney link)

The dot-connection of Satanists-Cultists speaks to the motives and deception of the same birds of a feather.

The origins of NASA and "space" travel is curious. Their goal was to access the realm beyond the physical, which they knew intersected with the spiritual realm.

I realize you disbelieve the Bible, but the description of our realm is discussed throughout in Scripture. It speaks of God's "Firmament," which according to the Bible is a "Glass Dome" of sorts. WITHIN this Firmament is (according to Scripture as well as many observers as late as the 1930s) lie the Sun and Moon.

IF those like JPL, Crowley, Hubbard and Disney ALL had a goal to try and crash through The Firmament, aka God's "Glass Dome" (to either prove OR disprove God's word), THAT provides a motive.

But for the sake of argument, do you believe the "space walk" event is occurring in low earth orbit?

Why would you disbelieve it?

I realize you disbelieve the Bible, but the description of our realm is discussed throughout in Scripture. It speaks of God's "Firmament," which according to the Bible is a "Glass Dome" of sorts. WITHIN this Firmament is (according to Scripture as well as many observers as late as the 1930s) lie the Sun and Moon.

Bro, I was born and raised Roman Catholic. What you're talking about must be some Protestant interpretation of the literal English.

The Bible was written by men, and those men were far from infallible.

There might be some spiritual nature inherent in the Torah, if you can understand the Hebrew.

Other than that, you're reverting to the ignorance of the Dark Ages.

This is all observable with a telescope. As is the rotation of the earth itself.

There are lots of things that are well known and established fact.

Yes...As well as many key "established" theories which are erroneously considered "facts." THIS is an ongoing big problem for institutional "Science."

Don't confuse the fantasy realm with the objective world we live in.

That's another problem; Accepting lab coats and past "scientific" dogma with pure theory and assumption. Btw, "Science" is waaaay to "subjective", which is how it's gotten itself into the kind of mess its in.

IF it were truly "objective," the Lies would be dismissed and ridiculed instead of the Truth.

There are some that have dabbled into things that they shouldn't have.

Perhaps for that reason we have some extremely evil people running things.

+100.

THAT is the problem. Their agenda and cred is and has always been suspect and...sick.

But the earth is still a sphere, and the sun is but one star out of an unimaginable number.

Been there, done that. Truth blew my mind. That sir is ALL a lie, a series of one Big Lie after another.

Once you see it all unfold before you, you don't nor ever can go back.

Nothing personal if you disbelieve what I believe to be true and vice versa.

Yes...As well as many key "established" theories which are erroneously considered "facts." THIS is an ongoing big problem for institutional "Science."

That a force exist known as gravity is not a theory, it is an objective fact, just as it'd probably be safe to say most humans have two eyes, two legs, and two arms.

WHY that force exist is open to THEORIES, but the fact is that it DOES exist.

IF it were truly "objective," the Lies would be dismissed and ridiculed instead of the Truth.

Lies that you consider facts ARE easily dismissed. You can not argue against facts, you can only try to twist those facts using lies.

But the fact is, if you follow a guide of the sky you can find the planets depending on your longitude and latitude, and if you find Jupiter you can see its moons.

You'll notice that the planet is moving across the lens, and that is because the earth is rotating.

The Bible was written by men, and those men were far from infallible.

But...

MEN also wrote everything you and many millions believe as "gospel" truth -- all man's "science," "knowledge," and all theories. Just sayin'.

As to the credibility and fidelity of the Bible, its contents are the Inspired Word of God as He directed through the Holy Spirit. The Almighty certainly had the power to do so. No one has yet found a single lie within its bindings. Moreover its prophecies thus far have all been proven true. WHAT are the odds?)

Ultimately, it is a matter of faith, Lurker.

Yes, I believe EVERY single word in it. Now whether you or I or Aunt Tilly believe some, all, or none -- as well as the wisdom, truth, prophecy and Salvation through Jesus Christ -- is everyone's prerogative.

Once you see it all unfold before you, you don't nor ever can go back.

Sorry to ask, but are you taking mind altering drugs?

You're acting like electricity hasn't been discovered yet.