A professor has warned that the new deadly coronavirus which originated in China has the same kill rate as the Spanish flu, which claimed the lives of 20-50 million people in 1918.
Fears of widespread contagion are growing after hundreds of cases were confirmed and 17 people died. The virus originated in an animal market in Wuhan, China and has now spread to numerous other countries, including the United States.
The virus has a 2% death rate, compared to 0.1% for the regular flu. For every 50 people who are infected, one will statistically die.
This [2019-nCoVs death rate] could be 2%, similar to Spanish flu, said Professor Neil Ferguson from Imperial College London.
Novel viruses spread much faster because we have no immunity, he added.
Yikes.
Lets do some math here.
In 1918, the population of the earth was just under 2 billion. Spanish flu killed around 20-50 million, around 2.5% of the population. In todays figures with a population of 7.8 billion, a similar kill rate would take out 195 million people.
Fatalities are occurring as a result of of pneumonia and there is no effective anti-viral, according to Professor Peter Horby from the University of Oxford.
Hopefully now that the Chinese government has banned all travel in Wuhan and shut down the airport, the spread of the virus will be massively contained.
#1: Pinguinite To: Horse (#0)
The fatality rate needs to take into account the percentage of the population that actually got infected, and it's unlikely the Spanish Flu and Coronavirus have similar capabilities to spread. Could be more or less, but not likely the same.
Based on the Chinese figures of soem 400+ infections and less than 20 deaths, the death rate is somewhat under 5%. That's kindof high, of course, but a small sample, and we don't know the living conditions of those who were infected in china.
Odds are this won't spread far.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-01-23 09:22:09 Reply Private Reply
#2: Horse To: Pinguinite (#1)
Horse posted on 2020-01-23 09:24:24 Reply Private Reply
#3: Ada To: Pinguinite, Horse (#1)
Some have ascribed the high rate of Spanish Flu deaths to the weakend condition of the European population resulting from WWI. I don't know if the rate was that high in places that didn't get involved in the war.
Ada posted on 2020-01-23 10:22:14 Reply Private Reply
#4: Horse To: Ada (#3)
The disease killed in every area of the globe. As many as 17 million people died in India, about 5% of the population.[46] The death toll in India's British-ruled districts was 13.88 million.[47]
In Japan, 23 million people were affected, with at least 390,000 reported deaths.[48] In the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia), 1.5 million were assumed to have died among 30 million inhabitants.[49] In Tahiti, 13% of the population died during one month. Similarly, in Samoa 22% of the population of 38,000 died within two months.[50]
In New Zealand, the flu killed an estimated 6,400 Europeans and 2,500 indigenous Maori in six weeks. [51] Dr. Geoffrey Rice has found that Maori died at eight times the rate of Europeans.[52]
In Iran, the mortality was very high: according to an estimate, between 902,400 and 2,431,000, or 8.0% to 21.7% of the total population died.[53]
In the U.S., about 28% of the population became infected, and 500,000 to 675,000 died.[54] Native American tribes were particularly hard hit. In the Four Corners area, there were 3,293 registered deaths among Native Americans.[55] Entire Inuit and Alaskan Native village communities died in Alaska.[56] In Canada, 50,000 died.[57] In Brazil, 300,000 died, including president Rodrigues Alves.[58] In Britain, as many as 250,000 died; in France, more than 400,000.[59] In Ghana, the influenza epidemic killed at least 100,000 people.[60] Tafari Makonnen (the future Haile Selassie, Emperor of Ethiopia) was one of the first Ethiopians who contracted influenza but survived.[61][62] Many of his subjects did not; estimates for fatalities in the capital city, Addis Ababa, range from 5,000 to 10,000, or higher.[63] In British Somaliland, one official estimated that 7% of the native population died.[64]
This huge death toll resulted from an extremely high infection rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms.[3] Symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, "One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred".[41] The majority of deaths were from bacterial pneumonia,[65][66] a common secondary infection associated with influenza. The virus also killed people directly by causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lung.[66]
The unusually severe disease killed up to 20% of those infected, as opposed to the usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%.[2][41]
Horse posted on 2020-01-23 12:46:57 Reply Private Reply
#5: Ada To: Horse (#4)
Ada posted on 2020-01-23 13:30:54 Reply Private Reply
#6: Horse To: Ada (#5)
Horse posted on 2020-01-23 19:53:44 Reply Private Reply
#7: Ada To: Horse (#6)
Ada posted on 2020-01-24 09:19:26 Reply Private Reply
#8: Horse To: Ada (#7)
Silver might be OK. But I don't need it.
Horse posted on 2020-01-24 12:06:07 Reply Private Reply
#9: Lod To: Horse (#8)
A couple pulls of collodial silver/day never hurts, either.
Lod posted on 2020-01-24 15:13:31 Reply Private Reply
#10: Liberator To: Lod, Horse, NeoconsNailed (#9)
Love the health info stuff...
I take collodial silver now and then, but Ceylon Cinnamon instead of the cheap stuff isn't effective? Or just not as effective?
Liberator posted on 2020-01-25 14:18:28 Reply Private Reply
#11: BTP Holdings To: Lod (#9)
Those kitchen spices are frequently irradiated to keep them fresh. Obviously you do not want that stuff, but the fresh spice itself which is harder to find. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-01-25 14:22:20 Reply Private Reply
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Horse posted on 2020-01-25 14:54:43 Reply Private Reply