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#1: sonny    To: Horse (#0)

There was a Chinamen who posted videos showing bodies laying in the streets , bodies laying in the subway , bodies stacked in a hospital - He said that the death toll was much higher than what was being reported and that food riots where happening - now the guy has disappeared

sonny posted on 2020-02-07 19:46:51   Reply   Private Reply


#2: randge    To: sonny (#1)

There is a disconnect between what is evidently the case on the mainland of China and what's going on outside of China where cases of this virus are being reported.

From what we've seen from the non-mainstream inside and outside of China, the number of cases and deaths accumulating there are far beyond what is being reported in conventional outlets.

In addition, the deaths reported occuring in other affected countries is significantly less than half of the rate that China is reporting.

As is sickeningly familiar with large scale events these days, something don't add up.

randge posted on 2020-02-07 21:24:02   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Horse    To: randge, sonny (#2)

These are new cases outside China. It takes 5 days to get to symptoms and 2 1/2 weeks to die. Some get the disease twice. China is also experiencing a SARS and a Bird flu epidemic at the same time. Our death rate will increase when our hospitals are overwhelmed.

I do not live in California or anywhere airports with large numbers of returning visitors from China. Do hospitals treat everyone with the flu as if they as if they had the Wuhan virus? If they don't, we will start losing hospital staff just as they did in China.

And look at those cruise ships. Quarantined on board and people still were infected. Give it 3 months to spread.

Horse posted on 2020-02-07 22:09:02   Reply   Private Reply


#4: BTP Holdings    To: sonny (#1)

now the guy has disappeared

Does that seem a surprise? He was stirring the pot and got disappeared. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-02-07 22:10:49   Reply   Private Reply


#5: randge    To: Horse (#3)

Our death rate will increase when our hospitals are overwhelmed.

That is what a lot of use are skeered of. Heaven forfend.

And look at those cruise ships. Quarantined on board and people still were infected.

They tell us that the air on those ship is recycled throughout the whole system. That is to say, sooner or later, all the passengers get to breathe the same air.

Cruise ships. The perfect laboratories for studying the dispersion of infectious microorganisms.

randge posted on 2020-02-07 22:48:10   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Lod    To: randge (#5)

Cruise ships. The perfect laboratories for studying the dispersion of infectious microorganisms.

Same is even more true with the planes that are carrying infected people over here.

Lod posted on 2020-02-07 23:06:07   Reply   Private Reply


#7: Horse    To: Lod (#6)

The corona virus can last 28 days on an exposed source like a cruise ship, an airliner, a city bus, a taxi cab, the door to a public restroom and such. When will they start cleaning these public conveniences? China has a drone spraying program. Knowing them, what they spray is likely deadly.

When people go to the doctor or the Emergency room with a flu in cites near hge international airports in America, do the medical staff assume everyone has the corona virus until proven otherwise? If they don't, California or other hot spots could lose 30% of their medical staff.

Horse posted on 2020-02-08 00:32:24   Reply   Private Reply


#8: randge    To: Lod (#6)

Reminds me of a time when I got on a flight out of the ME headed for the US with a stopover in Europe.

After taking on passengers for the trans-Atlantic leg and before shutting the doors some local lady official from - I forget what country - with a couple of assistants boarded the plane and announced that she was empowered to delay the flight and to disinfect the aircraft.

She and her assistants, equipped with tanks and sprayers, started at the aft end of the plane and fogged the interior covering all the seating areas in about two minutes. All of this before I could even ask, "WTF are you guys spraying there?"

Never seen anything like this before or since, but it may become a more familiar phenom as things progress the way they seem to be.

randge posted on 2020-02-08 14:51:12   Reply   Private Reply


#9: BTP Holdings    To: Horse (#7)

China has a drone spraying program.

Our great government has been making those contrails in the sky, cris-crossing to the point that cloud cover increases. I wonder what they are spraying. Likely some kind of Barium mix since that would be poison to life. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-02-08 15:06:09   Reply   Private Reply


#10: Horse    To: BTP Holdings (#9)

The US is spraying aluminum and other minerals that kill trees and plants making forest fires more likely and more deadly.

Nobody knows what they are spraying in China. The Wuhan virus can live outside the body for 28 days.

Horse posted on 2020-02-08 19:25:38   Reply   Private Reply


#11: BTP Holdings    To: Horse (#10)

The US is spraying aluminum and other minerals that kill trees and plants making forest fires more likely and more deadly.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-n...e-california- lost-deadly-camp-wildfire-n934731

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-02-08 20:56:12   Reply   Private Reply


#12: Lod    To: BTP Holdings, Cyni, randge, Horse, 4 (#7)

Has anyone mentioned the economic repercussions when all the "stuff" the world buys from China slows down or stops? or what percentage of that stuff could already be infected?

Lod posted on 2020-02-08 23:03:04   Reply   Private Reply


#13: Horse    To: Lod, BTP Holdings, randge, (#12)

Every Central Bank is printing money to keep things going and to keep the stock market up. Some have shut down 30% of their operations (Cathay air) but their stock price has shot straight up. Unintentionally, all that freshly printed money sent the stock price of Tesla through the roof. $900 a share for carmakers that don't know how to weld.

Historically, money printing on this scale ends badly. Vary Badly. Just hope we get past the November elections.

Plagues like the corona virus spike in the winter months when there is less sunshine and your body's vitamin D 3 level is too low. If this does not spike here until winter 2020 I will be very glad. A lot of people got the corona virus but did not know they had it until after they recovered and were tested. But people over the symptoms can still transmit the disease because the viral load is still high. It is a Bioweapon. It has HIV insertions and Crisper marks.

Horse posted on 2020-02-08 23:19:55   Reply   Private Reply


#14: Lod    To: Horse (#13)

Just popped another 125mcg Vit D-3.

Lod posted on 2020-02-08 23:35:06   Reply   Private Reply


#15: Horse    To: Lod (#14)

I go by IU and not mcg for D 3. You need more when you are coming down with a disease. 50,000 IU a day until the flu passes. Pandemics break out in the winter when there is less sunshine and your body has less D-3 stored.

Horse posted on 2020-02-09 00:27:46   Reply   Private Reply


#16: randge    To: Lod (#12)

Viruses in general are said to be very vulnerable on exposed surfaces, but many are concerned about the stronger persistence of corona-type viruses in inanimate environments.

Coronaviruses can remain on surfaces for up to 9 days, study finds

Gabrielle Masson - yesterday Print | Email

Coronaviruses can persist on inanimate surfaces and remain infectious at room temperature for up to nine days, according to a study published Feb. 6 in the Journal of Hospital Infection.

Researchers analyzed 22 studies on coronaviruses, including literature on SARS and MERS. An analysis revealed that the viruses normally survive on surfaces between four and five days, but can remain infectious for up to nine days. Low temperatures and high air humidity increase the lifespan.

In human-to-human transmission, coronaviruses incubate for two to 10 days and can spread via airborne droplets and contaminated hands or other surfaces. However, surface disinfection procedures using 62 to 71 percent ethanol, 0.5 percent hydrogen peroxide or 0.1 percent sodium hypochlorite are effective against coronaviruses within 1 minute.

"Different coronaviruses were analysed, and the results were all similar," Eike Steinmann, study author and head of the Department for Molecular and Medical Virology at Ruhr-Universität Bochum in Germany, said in the news release.

www.beckershospitalreview...uality/coronaviruses-can- remain-on-surfaces-for-up-to-9-days-study-finds.html

randge posted on 2020-02-09 11:00:40   Reply   Private Reply