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#1: Ada    To: Lod (#0)

The MSM ignores and state government forbid access and drag their feet with unnecessary tests.

Ada posted on 2020-04-04 14:17:48   Reply   Private Reply

#2: Horse    To: Ada, LOD (#1)

Hydroxychloroquine's mechanism of action appears to be how it acts as a strong zinc ionophore (i.e. pushing extra zinc into the intracellular space) and allowing that zinc to inhibit the enzyme that the virus is using to replicate. Two other zinc ionophores that are over the counter are Quercetin (flavonol) and EGCG (found in high concentrations in "matcha" green tea) and also available as a supplement.

Here is Dr. Zelenko's 'Zev' treatment regimen:

Patients treated with three drug regimen:

(PERSONAL NOTE. I AM TAKING 2 TABLETS A DAY OF VITACOST HOUSE BRAND GREEN TEA EXTRACT. Costs maybe $6 for 100 capsules. Maybe 12 cents a day. Each tablet has 250 mg of ECGC. Also loaded with polyphenols as the major ingredient listed above EGCG.

Quercetin: Food sources. Foods rich in isoquercitrin include leafy vegetables, broccoli, red onions, peppers, apples, grapes, black tea, green tea, red wine, and some fruit juices. I get one raw lemon, one grapefruit, one orange, grapes, one apple, spinach and kale every day. So I have a dietary intake of Quercetin. And my fermented bio-available twice daily vitamin contains 100% of zinc requirement daily. Also lots of dietary zinc. I am on this diet plus other elements to cure my edema which is much improved. I do take a German herbal formula which did allow me to pass an echocardiogram for the first time ever.

1- hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

2- azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days

3- zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

CONCLUSION - TREAT AS EARLY AND AS AGGRESSIVELY AS POSSIBLE IN THE OUTPATIENT SETTING

Horse posted on 2020-04-04 15:51:42   Reply   Private Reply

#3: Anthem    To: Horse (#2)

Isn't that the same regimen that was used in France?

Anthem posted on 2020-04-04 16:07:14   Reply   Private Reply

#4: Horse    To: Anthem (#3)

NO. That French crackpot left out the zinc as did Dr Oz who copied the French doctor whose wife was a fan of Doctor Oz's TV show. We cannot depend on dietary sources of zinc being adequate for most diets in America for the hydroxycholorquine to work.

Look at my response in 3. Includes info on Green Tea extract.

Horse posted on 2020-04-04 16:20:46   Reply   Private Reply

#5: BTP Holdings    To: Horse (#4)

dietary sources of zinc

I was taking a dietary Zinc supplement from Carotec made by Koehler Chemie in Germany. It seems Carotc no longer carries that product. It was called Unizink and was a Zinc Aspartate. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-04-04 16:25:27   Reply   Private Reply

#6: Ada    To: Horse (#4)

Seems, though, it it works without the zinc.

Ada posted on 2020-04-04 16:47:29   Reply   Private Reply

#7: Anthem    To: Horse (#4)

Look at my response in 3. Includes info on Green Tea extract.

I saw it, thank you.

I do take a German herbal formula which did allow me to pass an echocardiogram for the first time ever.

What is it, or what's in it?

Anthem posted on 2020-04-04 16:55:56   Reply   Private Reply

#8: Horse    To: Ada (#6)

Yes but it was designed to work with zinc. Do not leave the zinc out as we need more than recovery. We need all traces of the virus removed so it is no longer transmissible.

Horse posted on 2020-04-04 17:57:08   Reply   Private Reply

#9: Horse    To: Anthem, Lod, Esso, Ada (#7)

I took the following German herbal formula twice a day for a year and was able to pass an electrocardiogram for the first time. My left ventricle is now working fine. The formula is: Hawthorn Berries, Milk Thistle, Ginkgo Biloba, Bilberry extract, Cayenne and Kyolic. The original German formula was for garlic but I take Kyolic. My doctors were amazed at the results but they all said No when I asked it they wanted my herbal formula. I take them all twice a day. I was on a periodic break for 3 weeks so I could start up again stronger which I did a couple of weeks ago.

Horse posted on 2020-04-04 18:01:01   Reply   Private Reply

#10: Lod    To: Horse (#9)

Why would they want anything cheap, efficacious, and prescription and surgery free? No $$$ to be made there.

Lod posted on 2020-04-04 20:32:22   Reply   Private Reply

#11: Lod    To: Ada (#6)

It works much, much, better w/zinc; why wouldn't you use it if your survival were at stake?

Lod posted on 2020-04-04 20:44:43   Reply   Private Reply

#12: Horse    To: Lod, Ada (#11)

Besides we want to reduce the viral load so that cured people no longer have a viral load sufficient to transmit the disease.

Horse posted on 2020-04-04 21:28:12   Reply   Private Reply

#13: NeoconsNailed    To: Horse (#2)

Impressive, Horse. Are you a doctor? We could use one here.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-05 01:03:03   Reply   Private Reply

#14: Horse    To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

Not me. I used to be a professional student because I like to study and go to school. I had a vision of the future when I was a child. Never imagined that we could get so many crazies in the Demoncrap party or that something as evil as Hillary would get that close to being elected President. That vidion made me think twice about having children and a career.

Horse posted on 2020-04-05 01:09:56   Reply   Private Reply

#15: NeoconsNailed    To: Horse (#14)

And the republiCons are even worse half the time!

I'd love to be a pro student. Wow.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-05 01:12:16   Reply   Private Reply

#16: Horse    To: NeoconsNailed (#15)

Back in the day tuition was cheaper. And I had no wife and kids to support. Women and children are expensive. When I was in Boston I read a few hundred thousand pages of philosophy, psychology, mysticism and such. In terms of class hours I did 8 1/2 years full time in college classrooms. I did some technical training which required online training and certification. I was never a real technician. I taught kids how to pass difficult exams which is what I did all my life.

Since 2000 I have been blogging but never monetized my blogs. Not sure what the next step is. But we are headed to mass starvation and Civil War.

Of course divine intervention is possible.

Horse posted on 2020-04-05 01:37:23   Reply   Private Reply

#17: NeoconsNailed    To: Horse (#16)

Let me assure you Goddy isn't going to intervene when her toys are putting on such a good show for her :-s

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMxJtMoTnx8

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-05 01:48:31   Reply   Private Reply

#18: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMxJtMoTnx8

My old man put my .027 gauge trains in his mother's basement and they all rusted. Those trains would be worth some big bucks if I still had them. :-/

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-04-05 03:11:41   Reply   Private Reply

#19: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#18)

Do you spose they could have been de-rusted? Somebody just gave me an old ratty Gibson mandolin and I'm debating whether to have it restored.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-05 03:26:34   Reply   Private Reply

#20: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#19)

Do you spose they could have been de-rusted?

Somebody just gave me an old ratty Gibson mandolin and I'm debating whether to have it restored.

I doubt it. They are long gone now. :-/

Maybe you should give it a try on restoring that old Gibson mandolin. As long as the base of it is sound it can be restored. You would need the money and finding a place to do that would be a manufacturer.

FYI:

www.mandolincafe.com/foru...020- When-Did-Gibson-Stop-Making-A-Model-Mandolins

BTP Holdings posted on 2020-04-05 08:56:47   Reply   Private Reply

#21: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#20)

Thanks for the link. Most wondrously, right here in my mostly little- known town is the only luthier in the area that has a website -- but for some reason he only puts up "before" photos of his work :-s

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-05 09:07:42   Reply   Private Reply

#22: Ada    To: Lod (#11)

It works much, much, better w/zinc; why wouldn't you use it if your survival were at stake?

Were I sick enough to go to a doctor, my first concern would be whether he would treat with hydroxchloroquine and zithro, perscription needed and seem to get the job done. While I might mention zinc to him, it would be his decision.

Ada posted on 2020-04-06 10:10:06   Reply   Private Reply