The problem with making informed decisions about coronavirus is that we dont have a whole lot of data on it at the moment.
The data that we do have, meanwhile, could end up being terminally skewed, particularly the data thats been coming out of China
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CDC Tells Hospitals To List COVID as Cause of Death Even if You're Just Assuming or It Only Contributed
The problem with making informed decisions about coronavirus is that we dont have a whole lot of data on it at the moment. The data that we do have, meanwhile, could end up being terminally skewed, particularly the data thats been coming out of China. The Centers for Disease Control and Preventions guidance on determining COVID-19 as a cause of death isnt going to help those numbers.
Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not theres actual testing to confirm thats the case.
Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if its assumed to have caused or contributed to death, it can be listed as the primary cause.
The International StatisticalClassification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, or ICD, has established the code U07.1 for death by coronavirus infection. Theres a secondary code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available, according to the CDC guidance.
Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.
Therein lies the problem.
The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not, the guidelines read.
COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc., the guidance continued.
If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.
Author and former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson, one of the few well-known figures to question some of the statistics on COVID-19, questioned the new CDC guidelines as well:
Earlier this week, President Donald Trump and members of his coronavirus task force announced that they were expecting a death toll of between 100,000 and 240,000 from coronavirus.
In an article on Friday, The Washington Post said some experts didnt think the White Houses prediction models were accurate. It wasnt because those experts thought that figure was too high or too low: Its just because they didnt think there was enough data to determine a death range yet.
We dont have a sense of whats going on in the here and now, and we dont know what people will do in the future, Jeffrey Shaman, a Columbia University epidemiologist whose work was used by the White House to determine the death ranges, said.
We dont know if the virus is seasonal, as well.
It doesnt help that data when the guidelines for determining whos actually died of the coronavirus are profoundly vague.
For instance, what happens when an elderly person with numerous underlying conditions comes into the hospital and dies?
What happens when someone suffering from late-stage cancer or liver failure dies in the hospital? If that person was in the final stages of life and no testing is done and no autopsy conducted, what are we to assume?
If no testing is done and a patients symptoms are close enough to the seasonal flu, will that persons death automatically be attributed to COVID-19? And how much of a difference would that make in the numbers, if any?
The Western Journal has emailed the CDC for comment, but did not hear back in time for publication of this article.
Theres no doubt that this guidance will inflate the numbers, the only question is how drastically.
In places like New York City, where medical professionals are painfully overstretched, anyone who dies with an infection thats vaguely COVID-19-like could potentially have COVID-19 listed as their cause of death.
Consider, for instance, that the CDC is estimating there were between 24,000 and 63,000 deaths in the United States from influenza between October and March.
In NYC, does that mean some of those deaths got lumped under COVID-19? Will this keep on happening?
If so, that could skew the data in a significantly different direction and it could influence the governments intervention to stop the spread of the virus.
This is a haphazard way to gather data at a time when that data needs to be more accurate than ever. We can and should do better than this.
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