Physical Gold Premiums Soar To Highest Since Crimean Conflict As Congressman Questions COMEX

Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/physical-gold-premiums-soar-highest-crimean-conflict-congressman-questions-comex
Published: Apr 27, 2020
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2020-04-27 21:10:50 by Horse
Views: 1831

“For every coin we make, be it gold or silver, we could probably sell five or six of them...”


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St. Gaudens U.S. Gold Collectible Coin (1907-1933), 0.9675 Troy Ounces $1,918.95

90% Silver Coins - $10 Face Value Roll $155.80

It takes $1.25 to make one ounce of 905 silver. so if I want to melt down $10 in silver quarters, I will get ($10 /$1.25 = 8 ounces at 90%) Next step, I remove the copper from 8 ounces of 90% silver. 8 X .9 = 7.2 ounces. Meaning that if I pay $155.00 for a $10 roll of silver quarters that I am paying $21.53 per ounce for the silver.

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#1: StraitGate    To: Horse (#0)

Yes, that's about right.

A new pre-'65 quarter had 0.18084 ounces of silver in it, or 723.36 ounces per $1000 face value. Some PM dealers assume that circulated pre- '65 coins will have some wear, so they allow only 715 ounces per $1000 face value -- about 1.16% less than the new weight when new.

Assuming 0.715 ounces per face value dollar, then $155.80 / 7.15 oz. would be $21.79/oz. Quite a bit over spot!

StraitGate posted on 2020-04-27 21:46:36   Reply   Private Reply


#2: hondo68    To: Horse (#0)

Gold & Silver are taking a dive this evening. I was shopping online for gold coins & the prices kept getting lower.

hondo68 posted on 2020-04-27 23:54:13   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Esso    To: hondo68, 4um (#2)

I was shopping online for gold coins & the prices kept getting lower.

What are the premiums? What is availability?

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 00:27:38   Reply   Private Reply


#4: hondo68    To: Esso (#3)

Australia $25 Battle of the Coral Sea 2014 Quarter Ounce Gold PF $478.66

Multiply that by 4 and you've got the price of an ounce of gold. Then compare that to the spot price.

It's in my shopping cart, but I haven't hit confirm yet.

hondo68 posted on 2020-04-28 00:35:16   Reply   Private Reply


#5: Esso    To: hondo68, 4um (#4)

Australia $25 Battle of the Coral Sea 2014 Quarter Ounce Gold PF $478.66

Is that a numismatic? $1914.64/oz. Pricey. What's shipping?

Then compare that to the spot price.

That's never meant much. Pay going in, pay going out.

It's in my shopping cart, but I haven't hit confirm yet.

Don't do it on my account, I see a bad trade. Highest I've ever paid for Au is ~$900. Ag ~$9.

Buyer beware.

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 00:46:03   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Lod    To: hondo68, Esso, gold bugs, 4um (#4)

Lod posted on 2020-04-28 01:09:34   Reply   Private Reply


#7: hondo68    To: Esso, Lod (#5)

I see a bad trade. Highest I've ever paid for Au is ~$900. Ag ~$9.

FRN's ain't worth what they were then. Price of gold has doubled, and so has the price of everything else.

Dollar is worth a lot less now, I'm sure you've noticed. Pretty soon folks will be using dollar bills to wipe their asses, because TP will cost a lot more FRN paper.

hondo68 posted on 2020-04-28 01:21:49   Reply   Private Reply


#8: Esso    To: Lod, Hondo68, 4um (#6)

gold's getting scarce

Yeah, you know I deal with TexMetals a lot, haven't looked for a few weeks, been a little busy.

Availability still looks pretty limited, premiums seem to be about +$200.

How much below spot ya think they'll give me me for my stash?

I wouldn't consider below $2,500/oz now. I don't have the same need for throughput that the dealers do. I don't really hedge, I'm just waiting for XOM to drop their dividends like GM did today.

Never a jar of Vasoline around when you need one.

What the hell you doin up this late, OM? Sleeping half the day away, like me?

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 01:22:12   Reply   Private Reply


#9: Esso    To: hondo68, 4um (#7)

FRN's ain't worth what they were then.

Yeah, I know. Back then I was paying ~$3.689 for gas. Today it's $1.399- 1.219 within 2mi of me.

I know how things work. Don't try to school me.

No offence, been there, done that. I post here to have fun or help folks. I'm not having fun lately.

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 01:30:14   Reply   Private Reply


#10: hondo68    To: Esso (#9)

Trade in those worthless dollars for gold & you'll feel a lot better having something of value.

$200 over spot at TPM is about the same premium as what I quoted + it's fractional. It's a good deal, IMO.

hondo68 posted on 2020-04-28 01:37:00   Reply   Private Reply


#11: Esso    To: hondo68 (#10)

Trade in those worthless dollars for gold & you'll feel a lot better having something of value.

I've got plenty of PMs, thank you. I don't want dollars.

$200 over spot at TPM is about the same premium as what I quoted + it's fractional. It's a good deal, IMO.

The PTBs aren't done monkey-hammering PMs quite yet. JMHO, I'm trying to give you the best advice I can.

If you can afford to do it without making yourself or your family suffer, drop the hammer now.

If you're trying to get rich quick, ain't gonna happen. Look at when I bought Au @ $900 about 2009. I've lost my ass. I could supply you with all the Ag and Au you want in depth at less than market if I was willing to die. I'm just not ready to do that.

There's better and faster ways of making money, but I'm old and want stability. Talk to me in PM, maybe I can give you advice. Probably not, we're in uncharted territory.

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 01:51:19   Reply   Private Reply


#12: Fred Mertz    To: Esso, Lod, hondo68 (#9)

Sorry for the intrusion. 2 mins

You have to stay for the finish...

Fred Mertz posted on 2020-04-28 03:01:24   Reply   Private Reply


#13: Esso    To: Fred Mertz, Lod (#12)

OMG, it's no one knows by a fucking head!

Old fart fun at the track.

Goob's got the young libbies shittin' their pants. Lotta oldsters too.

I KNOW that I'm gonna die. I just don't want to be hungry and sober when I do.

So far, so good.

Esso posted on 2020-04-28 03:28:44   Reply   Private Reply


#14: Lod    To: Esso, 4um (#8)

g'day 4

What the hell you doin up this late, OM? Sleeping half the day away, like me?

Since it's just big black dog and me here, I get to set my own hours and if there's interesting conversation on 4um, I'll hang around as long as I can.

And yes, I usually have my power-nap in the early to mid-afternoon.

Lod posted on 2020-04-28 08:40:33   Reply   Private Reply


#15: Lod    To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Brilliant ~ thanks.

Lod posted on 2020-04-28 08:45:44   Reply   Private Reply


#16: DWornock    To: Horse (#0)

t takes $1.25 to make one ounce of 905 silver. so if I want to melt down $10 in silver quarters, I will get ($10 /$1.25 = 8 ounces at 90%) Next step, I remove the copper from 8 ounces of 90% silver. 8 X .9 = 7.2 ounces. Meaning that if I pay $155.00 for a $10 roll of silver quarters that I am paying $21.53 per ounce for the silver.

That might be if you melt them down. However, JM Bullion will buy your junk silver for fifty cents under spot. APMEX requests that you ask for a bid for your precious metals, but likely they are competitive with JM Bullion.

DWornock posted on 2020-04-28 17:28:44   Reply   Private Reply