Germany cuts may just be the beginning
Outgoing US Ambassador to Germany Richard Grennel finally tackled US troop cut announcement for Germany, saying it is in keeping with Trump’s position, and that he also wants cuts in Japan and South Korea.
Grennel said he doesn’t think this sends a wrong signal because its been Trump’s position all along that the deployments cost the US too much.
In addressing South Korea, it is likely the administration is trying to scare yet more money out of them after months of failed negotiations. Trump was always expected to seek more money from Germany, but was unlikely to get it.
Polls have showed that while German politicians are somewhat split, voters much preferred a US pullout to more military spending. Die Linke MPs enthusiastically said the US cuts could save money.
South Korea has already offered a substantial increase, but are far from Trump’s unprecedented demands. Japan is also expected to oppose massive new demands from the US.
#1: ghostdogtxn To: Ada (#0)
ghostdogtxn posted on 2020-06-13 10:38:11 Reply Private Reply
#2: Ada To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
Ada posted on 2020-06-13 13:04:40 Reply Private Reply
#3: Cynicom To: Ada (#2)
That is an utterly biased OPINION.
Honest answer, what three countries do NOT want US to withdraw from Japan etc?????
Cynicom posted on 2020-06-13 14:03:13 Reply Private Reply
#4: BTP Holdings To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
Abe of Japan nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize for ending the Korean War.
The U.S. therefore no longer needs to have troops stationed there, or in Japan. He richly deserves that Prize and that is a feather in his cap toward four more years. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-13 15:22:00 Reply Private Reply
#5: Cynicom To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
However Japan will immediately go nuclear with missiles.
With their past history, no one wants such.
Cynicom posted on 2020-06-13 17:01:14 Reply Private Reply
#6: noone222 To: Ada (#0)
Let the NWO fall flat on its ass..
noone222 posted on 2020-06-13 18:04:39 Reply Private Reply
#7: ghostdogtxn To: Cynicom (#5)
ghostdogtxn posted on 2020-06-13 22:43:10 Reply Private Reply
#8: Ada To: Cynicom (#3)
Its not opinion that Trump wanted the military on the streets of DC and he didn't get them.
And who cares what countries want the US to relieve them of the cost of a military? The Germans don't want us leaving Germany. Might cost them some of their Euros.
Ada posted on 2020-06-14 09:15:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: Cynicom To: Ada, Esso, Lod, Noone222, BTP Holdings (#8)
Ada...
That is totally devoid of rational thinking, lacking of history and missing of any geo/political background.
Years ago, when Reagan was President, I had the pleasure of spending two hours in conversation with three ministers from the West German government that were in US meeting with Reagan and State Dept.
There was one predominant concern in their minds. It was Russia. They well understood that without the US, Russia would be sitting on the English Channel. They knew at end of WWII that Germany could never depend on France and England. Russia TO THIS DAY HUNGERS TO TAKE ALL OF WESTERN EUROPE.
Only the US military prevents that from happening.
Disdain and disinterest of history can be fatal.
Cynicom posted on 2020-06-14 09:39:30 Reply Private Reply
#10: noone222 To: Cynicom (#9)
Cyni, I have to respectively disagree to a point.
I agree history has to be respected and remembered. I also think it necessary to consider the vast advances in weapons that can reach out and effectively restrain the intentions of any government unwilling to live at peace with their neighbors. We have the ability to see every country/border around the world with specificity. The troops in Germany is an expense that Americans bear that the Germans have responsibility to fund.
George Washington warned against entanglements in Europe's never ending feuds. I think he was correct to a certain degree excepting any attempt by a rogue element attempting to invade other nations.
EDIT: I'm sure that the Germans will always claim a fear or threat posed by Russia. (The Democrats seem to have a similar strategy).
noone222 posted on 2020-06-14 10:42:40 Reply Private Reply
#11: BTP Holdings To: noone222 (#10)
Yes and before the outbreak of WW II, German air crews were training in Russia to stay under the radar of the Versailles Treaty.
Hitler cancelled the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact when he launch Operation Barbarossa. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 11:21:56 Reply Private Reply
#12: Ada To: Cynicom (#9)
NATO was created to assure the Germans against a Soviet attack. If they are still worried, they should build their own defenses. All NATO is these days is a fig leaf for US aggression.
Ada posted on 2020-06-14 11:47:58 Reply Private Reply
#13: BTP Holdings To: Ada (#12)
They keep moving east. Now there are trying to gobble up Ukraine. Ukraine has always been the breadbasket of Russia with its crops of wheat. The Russians, of course, are resistant to this idea.
And the Russians have also tightly controlled gas supplies to western Europe thru Gazprom company. It would not take much provocation to close the pipeline. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 11:57:04 Reply Private Reply
#14: Screen Name To: noone222, Horse (#10)
I find Tom L to be an interesting source occasionally:
If reports of Bibi Netanyahu’s pet traitor Jared Kushner’s days in the White House being numbered are true
Screen Name posted on 2020-06-14 12:22:48 Reply Private Reply
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Screen Name posted on 2020-06-14 12:23:46 Reply Private Reply
#16: Cynicom To: noone222, Esso, Lod, Noone222, BTP Holdings, All (#10)
Cynicom posted on 2020-06-14 13:14:49 Reply Private Reply
#17: noone222 To: Cynicom (#16)
No ! School's out for summer !
noone222 posted on 2020-06-14 13:43:38 Reply Private Reply
#18: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#16)
Trump did when he dropped inert bombs in the mountains of the North just to show we could do it to major North Korean population centers.
This action caused Kim to step across the DMZ to embrace the peacenik Moon and the war was over.
Abe of Japan nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize for ending the Korean War. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 13:47:07 Reply Private Reply
#19: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#9)
Hitler showed that when he forced the French to sign the Armistice in the same rail car the Versailles Treaty had been signed. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 13:52:14 Reply Private Reply
#20: Esso To: Cynicom, 4um (#16)
None that come to mind.
Esso posted on 2020-06-14 13:56:15 Reply Private Reply
#21: Screen Name To: Esso (#20)
Screen Name posted on 2020-06-14 14:59:02 Reply Private Reply
#22: BTP Holdings To: Screen Name (#21)
You are talking about when Lincoln's Ambassador to Russia convinced the Tsar to send the Russian navy to New York Harbor and San Francisco Bay.
The British had considered entering the war on the side of the South. When the British saw this, they changed their minds about entering the war. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 15:05:35 Reply Private Reply
#23: Ada To: BTP Holdings, cynicom (#13)
The Germans are no longer afraid of Georgi Zukov's tanks.
Ada posted on 2020-06-14 16:49:33 Reply Private Reply
#24: BTP Holdings To: Ada (#23)
The U.S. sent 150 M-1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine. But the Russians have 1,500 tanks in opposition. :-/
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-06-14 16:53:03 Reply Private Reply
#25: Cynicom To: Ada (#23)
Unbelievable that anyone could possibly believe that or have that view.
Cynicom posted on 2020-06-14 16:59:34 Reply Private Reply