In his first campaign, what Donald Trump stood for could be summarized as less war, less immigration, less free trade, and fewer Washington insiders. These issues were so popular that against all odds, Mr. Trump won the GOP nomination and the presidency. With media almost entirely against him, debates were one of Mr. Trump’s main ways to reach voters. It was a pleasure to watch him dominate opponents.
This year it’s different. Last night, President Trump hardly talked about foreign policy. Instead, he sounded like a generic incumbent, rattling off claims about how well the pre-Coronavirus economy was doing — with special mention of low unemployment for blacks and Hispanics.
The candidates “debated” immigration and crime, but in each case, the President attacked Joe Biden on liberal grounds. Mr. Trump tried to paint Mr. Biden as an enemy of blacks because of his role in the 1994 crime bill that sent a lot of blacks to prison. The President bragged about his own First Step Act, which reduces mandatory minimum sentences and lets out prisoners early. Many blacks and liberals love the First Step Act, but they still won’t vote for him.
In 2016, candidate Trump said, “I am the law and order candidate. I’m also the candidate of compassion — believe it. But you can’t have true compassion without providing safety.” Last night, in his last debate, in a year of soaring murder rates and chronic looting and rioting, he said nothing about law and order.
On immigration, President Trump tried to deflect liberal complaints about “separating families” and “putting children in cages” by blaming the Obama administration and Joe Biden for starting all that. Last election, Mr. Trump attacked mass immigration for bringing crime, poverty, and Balkanization. Now, when Joe Biden attacks his tactics for keeping immigrants out, he excuses himself by saying Democrats first started using them.
Mr. Trump completely flubbed a question about “racism,” saying he understood why black and Hispanic parents have to give their children “the talk” about vicious white policemen. He sounded like a Democrat of just a few years ago.
None of what made Donald Trump popular last time was on stage last night. He sounded like a boorish but typical Republican. He attacked socialism, radical environmentalism, and promised economic growth. He spent time on issues few people care about, such as whether he or his opponent has more murky ties to Russia and whose sanctions against Russia would be harsher.
After months of rising crime, rioting, and black radicalism, running against an opponent who panders to Black Lives Matter and non-white pressure groups, President Trump got sidetracked on the details of the “Green New Deal” and bragged about letting criminals back on the streets. He could have cruised to victory as a “law and order” candidate as Richard Nixon did in 1972. Now, he’ll be lucky to make it across the finish line.
Poster Comment:
It's amazing how much devastation can be wrought in such a short article. ALMOST AS IF BY DESIGN Tromp the makeshift conservative ends up striving to outdo Obongo's VP in 'liberalism' at the exact moment desperate conservs are most dazzled by him.
I guess I should say re-dazzled, because in between the two elections they came to see him for what he really is -- well, some did. They will again after his re-election and it will be tragic to watch. The worst of it is that we seem to be permanently reduced to comparisonism. Till the day Tromp dies 20+ years from now he'll still be crowned with laurel wreaths "because he wasn't Biden."
Don't let the System play you for suckers, ameriKa -- the "desperate comparison" game works lousily in our dialectics and doesn't work as a way of political life. Are you ready to go the distance -- gun rights further eroded, more inaction on huge emergencies, more benefits for Israel, ever more hatred spewed directly on YOU -- "white supremacists" in the diseased, lying jargon of Jewish supremacism?
More of the civil war already raging in our streets -- shall we take all these betrayals further in stride? After all, he's not Biden -- or Hillary! PRINCIPLES, my compatriots -- PRINCIPLES. First things. If we don't demand these we are SUNK.
Stop typing -- I'm not saying Trump shouldn't be re-elected under these pathetic circumstances. NOT THE POINT.
Some pithy comments under the article -- there are lots more:
So What You’re Saying Is... Xanthippe2 • 21 hours ago
I know this goes without saying but I think the biggest fear the GOP has is they’re afraid of being called racist or seeming racist. It’s really a huge problem that plagues them to death
Joeric Xanthippe2 • 21 hours ago
Many church going white conservatives only think about one thing - abortion. They act like nothing else matters. They also want to help more black babies to be born. They forget that if the population of blacks increases, then whites will have to pay all the high taxes to give welfare to these blacks, and then white families cannot grow bigger. So, what is the use? Some church going conservatives, i really feel need some sense pushed into their heads.
Someone1980 • a day ago
Yeah it's curious that no one brings up the riots/anarchists/looters, including Trump himself. Not a single question was asked about that, and hardly any at the previous debate. The subject is only mentioned in passing, unlike "white supremacists" which comes up every time. I'm surprised that Trump himself seems to go with the flow and doesn't mention it the way he mentions Hunter Biden, for example. ***** Trump is on the defensive and society is too squeamish right now to talk about law and order.
Question Diversity • a day ago • edited
I haven't watched the whole thing yet, and probably won't. I've been absorbing reactions in general and from our own sector.
First off, I don't remember the debates four years ago being any different than the ones this year, in terms of our kinds of issues being brought up (or the lack thereof). The Trump that you think was MIA in yesterday's debate was also missing in the 2016 debates, and is the campaign Trump. That's mainly because these debates wind up being about what professional "mainstream" journalists are concerned about, more than what average people are concerned about. No matter the year.
dd121 • 21 hours ago • edited
I was disappointed that the moderator (or Trump) didn't bring up the rioting, looting, arson and murder that's occurring in many of our cities. This is all tacitly encouraged and enabled by democrats. Seems to me to be one of the most important issues of the day.
#1: Cynicom To: NeoconsNailed (#0)
One step above Horseshit.
Cynicom posted on 2020-10-24 11:15:12 Reply Private Reply
#2: StraitGate To: NeoconsNailed, Cynicom (#0)
Coming from Cynicom, I think that's a compliment.
StraitGate posted on 2020-10-24 11:25:42 Reply Private Reply
#3: Cynicom To: StraitGate (#2)
Hard cold statistics do not lie.
White, rural Americans elected Trump four years ago via the electoral college.
Cynicom posted on 2020-10-24 11:44:21 Reply Private Reply
#4: NeoconsNailed To: Cynicom (#3)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 12:15:01 Reply Private Reply
#5: NeoconsNailed To: StraitGate (#2)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 12:15:42 Reply Private Reply
#6: randge To: Cynicom (#3)
And they'll be supported by voters from lots of different groups filtering over from the Other Party.
randge posted on 2020-10-24 14:12:41 Reply Private Reply
#7: Cynicom To: NeoconsNailed (#4)
And statistics say we will do it once again.
During Convention long ago, James Wilson and James Madison were well aware that popular vote could very well end up with the tail wagging the dog for eternity.
Three or four states would rule the country forever, milk the others endlessly.
That is the reason democrats, Hillary and Biden want to do away with the electoral college.
Cynicom posted on 2020-10-24 14:35:18 Reply Private Reply
#8: NeoconsNailed To: Cynicom (#7)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 14:40:16 Reply Private Reply
#9: Cynicom To: randge (#6)
Here again, statistics will not lie.
Trump may well lose the popular vote once again, but be reelected President.
Cynicom posted on 2020-10-24 14:46:13 Reply Private Reply
#10: NeoconsNailed To: All (#9)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 14:50:53 Reply Private Reply
#11: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#0)
When alcoholic beverage producers in Pennsylvania refused to pay excise on alcohol, George Washington himself led the troops to enforce its collection. That excise on alcoholic beverages was a part of the new constitution that was given to us in 1789 in Philadelphia.
Washington at that time displayed that law and order were things which must be abided by for the new government to function properly. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-10-24 14:52:46 Reply Private Reply
#12: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#7)
And Greg Abbott the current Governor of Texas thinks there should be a new Constitutional Convention convened.
If that insanity were to happen all bets would be off, and we might end up with another form of government other than the tri-partite one we now enjoy. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-10-24 14:57:28 Reply Private Reply
#13: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#11)
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2006/05/william-hogeland/libertarians- socialists-and-the-whiskeyrebellion/
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 15:01:06 Reply Private Reply
#14: StraitGate To: NeoconsNailed (#13)
www.lewrockwell.com/2006/...and-the- whiskeyrebellion/
StraitGate posted on 2020-10-24 17:40:54 Reply Private Reply
#15: NeoconsNailed To: StraitGate (#14)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-24 19:38:08 Reply Private Reply
#16: DWornock To: NeoconsNailed (#0)
The problem is, Trump was lying and by now too many people know it. Therefore, he will not be reelected.
DWornock posted on 2020-10-25 22:26:34 Reply Private Reply
#17: NeoconsNailed To: DWornock (#16)
George Washington presidential legacy: the father of his country.
Thomas Jefferson presidential legacy: too much to mention.
Andrew Jackson presidential legacy: killed the 2nd National Bank ad inf -- 'sought to advance the rights of the "common man"[1] against a "corrupt aristocracy"[2]'
JFK presidential legacy: lost his life attempting to end Vietnam and get us back on honest money.
PDT presidential legacy: being less horrifying than Joe Biden -- a demented liar, communist politician and the most flagrant living sex pervert in the land.
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-26 07:56:33 Reply Private Reply
#18: DWornock To: NeoconsNailed (#17)
DWornock posted on 2020-10-26 10:05:46 Reply Private Reply
#19: StraitGate To: DWornock (#18)
I agree with your analysis. The socialist democrats have had the superior numbers for some time, and with mass immigration, gov school brainwashing, and jew-controlled media their numbers are growing all the time.
The democrats could have won in 2016 if they had not run Hildebeast, and they could have won this year if they hadn't run Biden (and if they hadn't allowed the BLM craziness to go quite so far).
Republicans will never win the US presidency again as long as they pretend to be to the right of Karl Marx.
StraitGate posted on 2020-10-26 10:31:56 Reply Private Reply
#20: BTP Holdings To: StraitGate (#19)
When he Nazis were burning books, they specifically burned those by Karl Marx. Does that tell us anything about National Socialism? ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2020-10-26 11:17:50 Reply Private Reply
#21: DWornock To: StraitGate (#19)
DWornock posted on 2020-10-26 12:29:21 Reply Private Reply
#22: Screen Name To: StraitGate, DWornock, 4 (#19)
This Global Reset needed a Trump in ameriKa to pull it off.
Zio-Dems and their zio-corporatist fellow travelers EVERYWHERE have been working to re-elect Trump since before the inauguration.
I will be more glad if Trump was selected (for my friends that have faith in this claptrap) but the outcome was already decided, the course set and there is not one thing short of killing and dying that will change it.
Enjoy the entertainment value.
Screen Name posted on 2020-10-26 14:58:00 Reply Private Reply
#23: Screen Name To: NeoconsNailed (#17)
Screen Name posted on 2020-10-26 14:59:21 Reply Private Reply
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-26 15:14:08 Reply Private Reply
#25: StraitGate To: Screen Name (#22)
That is plausible; you might be right.
But I am more inclined to believe that the election is real, that which candidate wins isn't pre-determined before the election. (As evidence: Hildebeast's apparently genuine shock, horror, astonishment, and outrage the night she lost to Trump four years ago.)
That said, I also believe that the candidates for each party are selected so that the election's outcome is largely irrelevant: whichever carefully selected candidate wins the election, he or she can be counted on to advance the globalzioelitists' nefarious plans for us hapless mere mundanes. (As evidence: the last 40+ years.)
StraitGate posted on 2020-10-26 15:29:04 Reply Private Reply
#26: randge To: NeoconsNailed (#24)
That flatulent, jug-eared son of a bitch had the wherewithal to handle the Washington end of squaring up the aftermath.
But the hitmen and the flunkies and patsies, the pre-positioned elements of the coverup, the methodical destruction of evidence, the "handling" of inconvenient witnesses, the flood of exculpating material hammered together by journalists and authors - all of this was more than that bastard had time for.
LBJ was busy. Anyway, he had a war to mismanage.
randge posted on 2020-10-26 15:49:41 Reply Private Reply
#27: NeoconsNailed To: randge (#26)
Once again I'll push this book that shows the mafia's heavy hand in not only 11/22/63 but Hollywood moviemaking.... etc. etc. etc.
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-26 16:31:00 Reply Private Reply
#28: NeoconsNailed To: DWornock (#18)
The problem isn't that everybody else prevents Tromp from doing his job. It's that he's so banal and superficial. VOTERS have NO excuse either for not holding him to his 2016 vows -- but conservs have ALWAYS stupidly assumed the battle's over when one of theirs gets in, and gone back to BBQing pork chops, visiting Branson, playing sudoku etc.
Founding fathers: eternal vigilance!
2020 conservs: How about them Braves!
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-26 16:43:38 Reply Private Reply
#29: randge To: NeoconsNailed (#27)
There is dirt underneath their fingernails. It's some bad encrusted crud.
They're scared I tells ya. I can feel it. Scared people do stupid shit.
randge posted on 2020-10-26 16:52:34 Reply Private Reply
#30: NeoconsNailed To: randge (#29)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-10-26 17:01:14 Reply Private Reply