the failed post below -- crucial

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Published: Nov 23, 2020
Author: DM, NN, ROCOR
Post Date: 2020-11-23 17:45:20 by NeoconsNailed
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Here's the whole business in the bottom box in desperate hopes it will salvage the 100+ minutes I put into it.

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Dissident Mama's "Monasteries, monks, & monuments – part 1"

To be on the safe side I won't repeat the link -- just google the title. Failed posts here never repeat successfully.

My reply:

This author, a homeschooling mother, is a really good blogger et al. My heart goes out to anybody living in the real world who seeks a church that will offer substance and not offend -- I doubt there are even 25 in the country outside of house churches. As soon as you've found a steeple church where the Gospel is preached and people are at least not vocally 'liberal,' the preacher eventually throws a putrid PC pie in your face from the pulpit.

Many patriots and truth advocates look to Orthodox churches for refuge. It's a smaller denom with usually smaller congregations, and smaller is better in many ways. (The larger main denominations are poison.) Hey, lots of orthodox congregations are of East European stripe -- like this Hieromonk guy's holdout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Cross_Monastery_(Wayne,_West_Virginia)

....but as you see they're no guarantee of anything. Trying the monk's reply to DM's challenge, it's obvious he's no different than your average pulpiteer in this regard:

http://www.dissidentmama.net/monasteries-monks-monuments-part-2/

It's all so gracious but he's obviously just a damn 'liberal' doing a lot of fancy footwork -- really nauseating! These pulpiteers have never held a job in the outside world. They went through seminaries run by virtual communists without ever questioning the radical-chic theology and antiwhite racism dished out. They haven't read Genesis and don't get that there's no dialoguing with devils. In a word, Hieromonk is a fool or worse on the most pressing public moral issues of our time. Wonder what his real name is.

Here in SC there used to be an actual Orthodox group that proudly displayed its love of Confederate heritage -- flew the C-flag, taught its real wonderful meaning etc. Am hunting it online -- surely must be the one in Summerville featured in the last third of this most unusual video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6ZLx0qPNY

You and your family, DM, have done your time up North -- I hope you'll consider moving South. IMHO Dixie (what's left of it) is the natural homeland of truth advocates.

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#1: NeoconsNailed    To: All (#0)

OK, here's Dissident Mama's 1st link:

www.dissidentmama.net/monasteries-monks-monuments-part-1/

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-23 17:46:14   Reply   Private Reply

#2: ghostdogtxn    To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

ghostdogtxn posted on 2020-11-24 11:56:18   Reply   Private Reply

#3: NeoconsNailed    To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

Appreciate your reply.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-24 15:21:32   Reply   Private Reply

#4: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed, ghostdogtxn (#3)

Not necessary to go to the Orthodox Church Outside Russia to find a non-PC church. Even the mainline Presbyterian Church has 'em. In New York City, no less.

Redeemer Presbyterian (I think its affiliated with the Westminster Synod) had 5 separate locations operating before the Covid shut down. Under the aegis of Tim Keller before his retirement, they are definitely non PC and not social gospel and attract large congregations of young professionals.

Ada posted on 2020-11-24 19:05:07   Reply   Private Reply

#5: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#4)

This I've got to see. You got any links demonstrating it?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-25 04:24:39   Reply   Private Reply

#6: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

Here's the Wiki.

No female pastors and they don't approve of homosexuality.

Ada posted on 2020-11-25 09:57:49   Reply   Private Reply

#7: Lod    To: Ada (#4)

Thanks for some good Bible-based church information.

Lod posted on 2020-11-25 10:39:17   Reply   Private Reply

#8: Ada    To: Lod (#7)

and Presbyterians no less.

Ada posted on 2020-11-25 10:59:02   Reply   Private Reply

#9: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#8)

It's just amazing -- I've never seen anything like it in Manhattan in all these years. It's like the place was immune to reality and religion.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-25 21:57:27   Reply   Private Reply

#10: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#9)

It's just amazing -- I've never seen anything like it in Manhattan in all these years. It's like the place was immune to reality and religion.

New York City is a big place and a lot goes on.

Many of the parishioners are Korean and Chinese. The Koreans, especially, take their religion seriously.

Ada posted on 2020-11-26 08:39:11   Reply   Private Reply

#11: noone222    To: NeoconsNailed (#0)

The Holy Spirit is available for sincere Christians and no other teacher is necessary. The pulpit is being whored out just like the media and government.

noone222 posted on 2020-11-26 08:53:02   Reply   Private Reply

#12: NeoconsNailed    To: noone222 (#11)

Well gee, fire ALL the preachers and Bible teachers.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-26 10:21:37   Reply   Private Reply

#13: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#10)

I knew it was too good to be true. White New Yorkers going back to God in such numbers? The salt has lost whatever savor it ever had :(

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-26 10:23:01   Reply   Private Reply

#14: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#13)

Quite a few whites in the congregation. Young professionals mostly.

Ada posted on 2020-11-26 10:40:32   Reply   Private Reply

#15: Lod    To: Ada (#10)

The Koreans, especially, take their religion seriously.

After escaping China when Mao took over, a great-uncle spent the balance of his Southern Baptist missionary life in Korea, focusing on bringing Korean war-orphans back here for adoption.

Lod posted on 2020-11-26 10:59:44   Reply   Private Reply

#16: Ada    To: Lod (#15)

I understand that about half the Koreans are Christian and not rice Christian either.

Seems that back in the 19th century the missionaries would not support a repressive government which greatly amazed and impressed the Koreans.

Ada posted on 2020-11-26 11:14:23   Reply   Private Reply

#17: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#16)

Interesting history. What are rice Christians?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-26 11:49:52   Reply   Private Reply

#18: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

What are rice Christians?

You have coffee-hour Christians in your church? Those who come for the coffee hour and force themselves to sit through the service?

Rice Christians were those Chinese (mostly) who went to the Christian missions because they gave out rice. When there was no rice, they didn't come.

Ada posted on 2020-11-26 19:27:18   Reply   Private Reply

#19: StraitGate    To: Ada, Lod (#10)

The Koreans, especially, take their religion seriously.

Yes, I have known some Korean Christians (I am a former Tae Kwon Do instructor) -- and they are serious Christians.

StraitGate posted on 2020-11-26 20:13:45   Reply   Private Reply

#20: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#18)

I guess the rice was a good idea and resulted in many converts.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-26 21:47:38   Reply   Private Reply

#21: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#20)

I guess the rice was a good idea and resulted in many converts.

Only pretend converts, my dear. Their only interest was in the rice.

Ada posted on 2020-11-27 08:16:22   Reply   Private Reply

#22: Ada    To: StraitGate (#19)

Better Christians than most Americans.

Ada posted on 2020-11-27 08:17:16   Reply   Private Reply

#23: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#21)

You don'think the rice helped make genuine conversions as well?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-27 08:32:03   Reply   Private Reply

#24: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#23)

You don'think the rice helped make genuine conversions as well?

Rice Christian definition is - a convert to Christianity who accepts baptism not on the basis of personal conviction but out of a desire for food, medical services, or other benefits.

The rice Christians were the poor who would have voted for Biden/Harris for a good meal but not understood anything about them. The tremendous amount of money and missionaries invested in converting China did not result in an impressive return. However, today there are more Christians in China than there are in France or Germany. Think about 3% of the population is Christian although they do keep a low profile.

Ada posted on 2020-11-27 10:35:15   Reply   Private Reply

#25: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#24)

Wow -- wikid says 2%, pitiful. Course it's 28 million.

In my early fundy days I read many earnest Logos International Fellowship paperbacks -- it was based in Plainfield and had a small outlet shop on horrible North Ave. One of them was by an evangelist who decided he was going to set up a Christian bookstore and mission in Red China no matter what -- a virtual impossibility at the time, prolly around 1960.

He fought and maneuvered and finally got the Chicoms' permission -- moved his family to the PRC and set up shop. The shock of his life was the Chinx' total indifference. Didn't notice he or it was there. IIRC he mustov some measure of success or wouldn't have written the book.

Attempting to google him this sad news shows up instead -- from last month: "China sentences Christian bookseller to 7 years in prison, destroys thousands of 'illegal' books"

www.christianpost.com/new...nds-of-illegal- books.html

Some things never change. I'd tho't they'd loosened up in this respect.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-11-30 08:02:17   Reply   Private Reply

#26: Ada    To: NeoconsNailed (#25)

The Chicoms have tightend up on religion after being relative loose when the Plainfield pastor arrived in 1960.

Christian religious persecution in China

Ada posted on 2020-11-30 11:31:44   Reply   Private Reply

#27: NeoconsNailed    To: Ada (#26)

I wonder why -- could it be that Christendom, starring the Jewnighted States, has made them that angry? I have no doubt it's one of the big reasons for Christian persecution in towelhead and dothead countries.

'Twas a pastor from I dunno where, whose book I nabbed at great discount in Pfd.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-12-01 08:53:13   Reply   Private Reply