On Sunday, 60 Minutes aired a report about UFOs. Journalist Bill Whitaker interviewed several people from the military to discuss the allegation put forward by the Pentagon that there are ultra-advanced aircraft flying around the earth for unknown reasons.
You should of course watch it and draw your own conclusions about what is going on there, but theres something about this that immediately pops out at me: all the footage is from the government and all of the people claiming to have seen the crafts are from the government.
I think it is now beyond any doubt that the government is pushing a fake alien agenda which is likely to start heating up quickly.
Fake Aliens are Not a New Idea
After 60 Minutes aired this program, the entire media began talking about the topic of UFOs. Someone yesterday told me: Project Blue Beam is real. I dont think it is real, but it is certainly relevant to this discussion.
Project Blue Beam is a conspiracy theory from the 1990s that the US government would use holograms to project flying saucers into the air and then fake an alien contact event and the return of Jesus Christ.
I heard this and many other conspiracy theories as a kid listening to Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. After the dawn of the internet, when I began investigating a lot of things, I investigated the Blue Beam story. The whole thing is just from one guy, a French Canadian named Serge Monast, who claimed to have seen secret government documents he couldnt ever produce. (Note that Project Blue Beam is different from Project Blue Book; the latter is the Pentagons real life supposed investigation of UFOs, and is mentioned briefly in the 60 Minutes segment.)
The most compelling aspect of the theory is that Monast died of a surprise heart attack in 1996 at the age of 41, not long after hed written a book about the alleged project. But a surprise heart attack is not evidence of a murder and he certainly did not look very healthy in any of the images Ive seen of him.
Unfortunately, in this case, I have to say that the RationalWiki entry on Project Blue Beam is pretty spot-on. I dislike that site for the same reasons everyone dislikes smug fedora-reddit atheists, but you know the thing about broken clocks.
The conclusion I have come to is this: Monast put together a story that seems plausible (which he maybe even genuinely thought was going to happen), then falsely claimed to have documents showing that the government was planning it.
This happens probably more than you would guess: journalists and people who claim to be journalists regularly come up with things that seem plausible or likely, then claim that they have an insider source. It is not at all limited to the conspiracy community. There are several prominent right-wing Twitter accounts that use the sources say bit, and x% of the leaks and anonymous officials in the New York Times are just things the Times made up outright.
Though I never would have actually done it, I often regret that when I was trying to explain the virus hoax I didnt claim to have an insider source at the World Economic Forum or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I think more people would have taken my warnings more seriously, and I dont think anyone who was already taking it seriously would have taken it less seriously. But Im a slave to journalistic ethics.
The bottom line is: whenever you start talking about a fake alien agenda, a lot of people on either side will revert to Project Blue Beam. Rightists will say Project Blue Beam is real while leftists will say Project Blue Beam is fake and therefore there are no fake aliens. Fake conspiracy theories muddy the waters on many issues. It would be better if rightists didnt associate fake aliens with Project Blue Beam, then leftists wouldnt have a way to point to an easy out.
But it is what it is: there is zero documentation for Project Blue Beam, and yet we are clearly facing some kind of fake alien agenda.
However, it does make sense, which is why so many people believed it without evidence. It would indeed be very beneficial to the people in power to come out and say, aliens have come to earth and theyve told us to create a world government. The aliens are also Jesus.
This is so obviously desirable to the elite that Ronald Reagan actually said it in a speech to the United Nations on September 21, 1987.
On uniting the world under a single world order, Reagan said: Perhaps we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.
#9: BTP Holdings To: Dakmar (#8)
I am not too sure. But they did have the Underground Railroad to help escaped slaves move north to freedom. ;)
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Dakmar posted on 2021-05-22 16:10:53 Reply Private Reply
#11: Ada To: Dakmar (#8)
Pierre L'Enfant was white.
Ada posted on 2021-05-22 16:39:17 Reply Private Reply
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Ada posted on 2021-05-22 16:41:37 Reply Private Reply
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TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2021-05-22 17:43:19 Reply Private Reply
#17: titorite To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)
I believe they uploaded themselves into their computers to beat death and that the little greys and what not are just their genetic constructs they use to interact with the physical world when they choose to.
I also believe the process only cost them their immortal soul.
I dont consider them human or alien. Just blanks that made the mistake of fearing death more than God.
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-05-22 19:37:08 Reply Private Reply
#21: TommyTheMadArtist To: NeoconsNailed (#20)
Look up Butch Witkowski and his work on the Todd Sees Case. There is a video presentation of his investigation. If you think that this is fucking funny, or something to label tin foil hat, stop talking to me, and do some research of your own.
I am not going to hold your hand, and have you pull the same nonsense every other internet troll does where I put up an article and because its not from the mainstream, you can simply marginalize it.
LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF.
TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2021-05-22 20:44:01 Reply Private Reply
#22: BTP Holdings To: Dakmar (#14)
When we drove the big truck out of Chicago we called Indianapolis "Circle City" because of the interstate that ran around it. ;)
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Lod posted on 2021-05-22 23:26:35 Reply Private Reply
#25: Anthem To: Lod, 4um (#5)
Edit to add: BTW, it is well footnoted and has a 6 page bibliography, with another couple of pages of encyclopedia references.
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Here are a couple of Amazon reviews:
George K. Sturgis
4.0 out of 5 stars An amazing book I could not put down
Reviewed in the United States on September 7, 2001
This book blew me away.
It makes a convincing and fascinating argument for the author's startling theory that the world was inhabited by a fairly advanced ocean-going civilization during the last great ice age 10,500 years ago when suddenly an asteroid plunged into the Atlantic Ocean. This created much havoc -- triggering widespread volanic eruptions, rapid melting of the ice resulting in worldwide flooding, erosion of the ozone layer, destruction of much animal life, and perhaps adding a few degrees of tilt to the axis of our planet.
The "First Civilization," as author John Cogan calls it, was decimated but not destroyed when the 6 1/2-mile-wide asteroid rocked Earth. Cogan weaves into his theory plausible answers to several of unsolved mysteries including the legend of Atlantis, the ability of the Egyptians to build the pyramids, and the source of the Mayan calendar, to name a few. A lawyer living in the Seattle area, Cogan is a self-taught anthropologist who spent thirty years researching for "The New Order of Man's History." It shows. The author had to become conversant in an assortment of scientific disciplines to pull this off.
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Thomas C. Stoll, MD
5.0 out of 5 stars A text for the next millenium
Reviewed in the United States on February 24, 2002
This book should be required reading for every high school student in America if not the world. John Cogan has presented a concise, chronological history of man drawn from conclusions using the facts available today from scientific data collection, not by adhering to standard dogma laiden with baseless assumptions carried down in today's "academia".
This text requires the reader to concentrate and follow the factual trail of the history of the earth and man's population of the world. It gives reasonable, believable accounts to his emergence, civilizations, migrations, decimation, and repopulations. John Cogan challenges many beliefs we cling to and hold as truth. Through his no nonsense approach to the current factual information regarding our history we can shed these burdens and move forward in our understanding of man's history. My training has taken me through the quagmire of current main stream paleohistory and archeology. John Cogan has shown me more in less than 200 pages. My hat is off to him and I hope this book opens the eyes and minds of many to follow. The New Order is the Right Order. Thank you John.
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Anthem posted on 2021-05-23 00:45:27 Reply Private Reply
#26: TommyTheMadArtist To: NeoconsNailed (#23)
While there are a lot of bullshitters making a buck selling everyone UFO books on god knows how many topics, there are some truly honest people out there that I have had the good fortune of meeting and dealing with. There are some good people out there and finding them is how the truth comes out.
This bullshit being peddled by Luis Elizondo, and he is being used because he is Hispanic and not white, but white enough to convince the gliberal whites of his sincerity, since after all he is one of their guys, under THIS administration, is indeed a complete farce.
Imagine a government that has been lying for 70 plus years to its people because it loves the power it has. Now imagine if you will a government that in order to stay on top of the heap, sold its citizens out to a non-human intelligence to be experimented on and toyed with in exchange for technological advances.
Then when people started turning up dead, like in the case of Todd Sees, and many many others, they started knocking some of those aircraft out of the sky because wed gotten a lot further than wed let on.
Then imagine after a huge spike in sightings, from 5270 sightings in 2019, to almost 8000 sightings in 2020, with plenty of credible footage, people started to ask questions.
This whole thing they are doing, is pure theater in order to absolve themselves of the coming wave of questions with regards to cattle mutilations, human mutilations, technological advances, and of course, alien abduction. This bullshit of playing dumb that We dont know anything about them, and theyre a security risk is fine and all, but they stopped being ignorant in 1947.
I have a history with this phenomena, privately and professionally. I have seen things I simply cannot explain and experienced things I wish I hadnt. So, while my attitude may seem confrontational. I have a legitimate dog in this hunt. So please do some research instead of making me do it for you. I promise you, it will be unsettling to say the least.
TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2021-05-23 00:47:31 Reply Private Reply
#27: BTP Holdings To: Dakmar (#10)
I helped an Interpol agent bust four Nigerian internet scammers. He told me there was a reward but I had to pay a lawyer to get it.
I told him, "Do you realize at the start of the French Revolution they killed all the lawyers first?" ;)
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#28: Lod To: Anthem (#25)
Lod posted on 2021-05-24 09:08:41 Reply Private Reply
#29: Pinguinite To: Lod (#5)
My thinking is that if aliens wanted to help people build superstructures hundreds or thousands of years ago, they would have been built out of something other than stones. Steel, concrete, fiberclass, carbon based products or some material humans have, as yet, not discovered.
For an advanced alien tech to build them out of stones would be like people going into the jungles to help gorillas build huts out of mud & leaves instead of lumber or cinder blocks.
Pinguinite posted on 2021-05-24 11:49:01 Reply Private Reply
#30: Pinguinite To: Lod (#28)
I do personally believe that life exists elsewhere in the universe. Whether it has arrived here depends on an ability to travel far, far, far faster than light, and as far as we know, is not possible for any level of advanced tech.
But... they also once said that heavier than air objects would never fly.
Pinguinite posted on 2021-05-24 11:54:51 Reply Private Reply
#31: TommyTheMadArtist To: Pinguinite (#29)
From my perspective, stone is far more stable than other materials.
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#34: Pinguinite To: Lod (#32)
I would expect any advanced alien tech to have done such a construction as the pyramids to be commemorated in hieroglyphics in abundance, but we really don't see that. There is a low tech way of moving enormous stones with simple leverage and such. That skill has already been cracked.
Pinguinite posted on 2021-05-24 19:02:35 Reply Private Reply
#35: omoto1 To: All (#0)
If all of you didn't see Fox News Channel for the passed week, they've been showing a lot of sega cd games during the shows to act like they're ufo's they're trying to find out what they are while only gossiping. Why do I say sega cd games? If you look at all the films, it's all grainy 32 bit game graphics on it.
By the way, when the politicians do recieve the fake Alien signals I bet you msnbc (muslim socialistic national bureaucratic channel) nbc (national bureaucratic channel) and cnn (communistic national network) will be glued to their studios waiting for their next fake segment while there will be late breaking news bombshells with democrats drooling over their own fake arguments because they'll want to argue over which plans the Aliens have to communicate with the war mongering politicians when they enter the atmosphere.
The politicians and media will be "They're trying to communicate with us in some form of hostile communication"
They'll be saying is "All we said was that greetings, we come in peace may we enter your territory!
omoto1 posted on 2021-05-25 00:46:08 Reply Private Reply
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#37: Anthem To: Lod (#28)
I think there may be life out in space, but any life sufficiently intelligent and physically capable enough to travel through space (and/or time) to get here from beyond what we have been able to "see" with the explorer vehicles over the last 40+ years hasn't made their presence known (IMO).
We tend to anthropomorphize, or at least parameterize life as carbon-hydrogen-oxygen compounds. Even within the latter parameters, fire is a life form -- consuming what "food" it can reach and "living" or "dying" with the availability of "food." Life forms in space may be built and reliant on different elements (as early life forms on Earth did), and "intelligent" life may be so far beyond us that they wouldn't think any more of trying to communicate with us as we would with plankton.
Like you said, who knows.
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#39: Cynicom To: omoto1, Lod, noone222, Esso, Btp Holdings, all (#35)
Few years ago I attended mass commemoration service for NSA comrades killed by the Russians, during Korean war. There were about one thousand of us in attendance at NSA, military and civilian. It was quite real and they paid with their lives.
Cynicom posted on 2021-05-26 07:49:18 Reply Private Reply
#40: Lod To: Anthem, 4um (#37)
Lod posted on 2021-05-26 09:56:17 Reply Private Reply
#41: omoto1 To: Cynicom (#39)
Them.....intelligence? no such animal
omoto1 posted on 2021-05-29 01:47:32 Reply Private Reply
#42: omoto1 To: Pinguinite lod neoconsnailed (#30)
Contrary to the popular accusation, life does exist in an infinite amount of space it's illogical to think it doesn't.
With the faster than light.....it's where my science prodigy comes in. It's in reality possible to go faster than light.
The speed of light is 700,000,000mph. In layman's terms, it's 7.5 earth's per second which in reality, it isn't you physically going faster than light, it's space that's taking you faster than light. The technology that is used is right in front of us currently. All you need to do is create red matter, which is physically made anti matter that hasn't exploded yet. You need a chamber that is used to contain the anti matter. When you explode the anti matter when it creates a black hole you need to inject di lithium, which is your rechargeable batteries in the middle of it to neutralist it otherwise you'll suck the warp ship inside itself. When you put it in a warp engine, the black hole sucks and stretches space when you let the black hole let space contract back to its original form, you go seven hundred million miles per hour which you can make it out of the solar system in an hour while if you go ten times that, you can go out of the solar system in five minutes. The movie star trek is a reality but unfortunately each warp engine is worth $9 billion dollars because each warp engine is the size of a community block. If you want to move a ship that size you need anti matter for the 700 millon horses to move it. Anti matter can be one of the most destructive things, yet it can also be one of the most progressive things if you use it right. We'd need to eliminate the government to do it. We can make it out of the solar system we just need to make a warp ship to do it. Just think of it, when you watch a lighten storm each time you see lightening you made it to the moon.
omoto1 posted on 2021-05-29 02:15:58 Reply Private Reply
#43: omoto1 To: NeoconsNailed (#36)
Thank you
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#44: Cynicom To: omoto1, All (#42)
Cynicom posted on 2021-05-29 03:47:43 Reply Private Reply
#45: NeoconsNailed To: omoto1 (#42)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-05-29 12:36:40 Reply Private Reply
#46: Cynicom To: NeoconsNailed, omoto1 (#45)
Recall nearly a hundred years ago Einstein using math, proved that the Universe we live in was static???? There was no expansion nor contraction???
Cynicom posted on 2021-05-29 13:30:45 Reply Private Reply
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-05-29 17:18:47 Reply Private Reply
#48: Cynicom To: NeoconsNailed (#47)
Edwin Hubble proved Einstein and others wrong about a static universe.
Cynicom posted on 2021-05-29 17:51:51 Reply Private Reply
#49: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#48)
Yes indeed. Edwin Hubble was born in Marshfield, MO. There is a scale model of the Hubble Telescope in front of the court house there.
When we drove for Vestal Trucking and did not need to fuel in Springfield, we would go right past there and down Hwy C where the Amish lived. They would drive their buggies down Hwy 60 east to a small town named Seymour where they would do some shopping.
One time I was driving and I look left. The kids were giving me the "blow the air horn" signal. I grabbed the lanyard and pulled it. I didn't see the horse on the other side of the road. He was raring back.
Can you imagine what the Amish had to say about that one? ROTFLOL
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#52: omoto1 To: NeoconsNailed (#45)
That's a good question considering. No it doesn't become as big as the universe because space moves you. When the black hole in the warp engine stretches space for example, going to Uranus, you can in fact go to Uranus in three minutes. When space contracts back to its original form, it creates a warp bubble, which means, you're not moving, when space itself contracts, the space you're in contracts with it with the warp bubble. A lot like me putting you in a blow up balloon, I'm moving the bubble, you're not moving. When the warp bubble moves with the space contracting back to its original form, you're moving with it because of the warp bubble and space contracting. You don't move in the bubble. It's also known as a warp worm hole during it. Many people think you can accomplish time warp. You can't accomplish time warp no matter what because God didn't make reality that way because, if we had time warp, too many idiots'd be messing with the timeline.
omoto1 posted on 2021-06-01 01:07:46 Reply Private Reply
#53: omoto1 To: NeoconsNailed Cynicom (#47)
No NeoconsNailed, in a way that's a good debate because not all of the scienctific theory's are right. Cynicom may have seen a theory from someone who thought Einstein said it, in fact, the static they hear is because there are no sound waves in space considering there are no dark matter in space there is only either regular or anti matter. Dark matter is what holds things together. The thought of sound is in fact a form of dark matter because of the waves. The object of space is in fact a form of a solid but not the same kind solid we have on Earth. If you look at a black hole the event horizon is distorted. The area of space is "Deformed" in space because of the cellos-al amount of suction in a black hole hence why light can't escape from it. When you make a warp engine, the black hole in a warp engine is no different that it is in space the only difference is that the warp engine has dilithium in the middle of it to prevent the ship from exploding. Although space can't be seen distorted with the ship because the act itself is faster than we can see it when we sling shot from Earth to Uranus.
omoto1 posted on 2021-06-01 01:20:58 Reply Private Reply
#54: NeoconsNailed To: omoto1 (#52)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-06-01 07:45:17 Reply Private Reply
#55: omoto1 To: NeoconsNailed (#54)
There was a guy on last month on Alex that proved the alien things were fake.
omoto1 posted on 2021-08-12 03:32:56 Reply Private Reply
#56: NeoconsNailed To: omoto1 (#55)
Constant advice to meself: "save the link, save the link!" ;)
NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-08-12 07:00:31 Reply Private Reply
#57: omoto1 To: NeoconsNailed (#56)
Yeah, they even recently had Dr. Michio Kaku on Fox News Channel proving that the UFO's are fake. He described the way real space ships move and jump to warp.
Yeah, Alex Jones at www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com/show had a scientist on his shows last month.
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