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#1: Esso To: Horse (#0)

See? Everything is fine. They're going to be just like Amerikka now. Mission Accomplished!

Esso posted on 2021-08-17 04:25:09 Reply Private Reply

#2: Horse To: StraitGate, Esso, NeoconsNailed, Anthem, TommyTheMadArtist, Lod, Ada (#1)

I am listening to an Islamic scholar's criticism of the new Afghan government. He says they must ban usury and to issue gold and silver coins banning bogus paper money. Some Islamic scholars say that Daijal (the anti-Christ) is our modern Jewish banking system rather than one person. To use that banking system system is to submit to a Jewish usury based banking system is a guarantee of failure.

Horse posted on 2021-08-17 10:19:35 Reply Private Reply

#3: Ada To: Horse (#2)

Sensible

Ada posted on 2021-08-17 11:15:57 Reply Private Reply

#4: Ada To: Horse (#0)

Molon labe

Ada posted on 2021-08-17 11:16:55 Reply Private Reply

#5: randge To: Horse (#2)

Muslims have been at loggerheads with the Jews since day one.

Mohammed (if you believe the historical accounts in Muslim books) beheaded a whole tribe of Jews after they'd lost a battle in defense of Medina.

The hundred of men were whacked and tossed in trenches, the wealth was divvied up and the women and kids were enslaved. Now there's some OT justice that just warms the cockles of your heart.

randge posted on 2021-08-17 13:44:02 Reply Private Reply

#6: Anthem To: randge (#5)

In the 6th century AD the Jews had a small empire based in Yemen. They hated Christians, massacring over 500 on one occasion. Many Christians joined the Mohammedan sect in the 7th century for protection from the Jews.

Anthem posted on 2021-09-11 16:45:00 Reply Private Reply

#7: randge To: Anthem (#6)

They hated Christians, massacring over 500 on one occasion.

Thanks for pointing that out.

For the record those, boys were no sweethearts either.

Mohammed may have had reason to fear their cousins, the Jews of Medina. We'll never really know because the history of that era has been purposefully skewed and obscured.

But the murder of prisoners of war and the rape and enslavement of captives is a brand of "justice" that should not be inscribed as honorable in the holy writ of any people.

That goes for the O.T. as well as the Koran.

randge posted on 2021-09-12 11:15:12 Reply Private Reply

#8: BTP Holdings To: randge (#7)

the history of that era has been purposefully skewed and obscured.
That goes for the O.T. as well as the Koran.

The Babylonian Talmud has a great influence on the Zionists in Israel.

Remember, Israel was founded on terrorism. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2021-09-12 12:57:54 Reply Private Reply

#9: randge To: BTP Holdings (#8)

Remember, Israel was founded on terrorism. ;)

Yes.

And you might ask: Which millennium are you referring to? ;)

randge posted on 2021-09-14 11:18:36 Reply Private Reply

#10: BTP Holdings To: randge (#9)

Which millennium are you referring to?

1946 with bombing of King David Hotel in Jerusalem. The British were using that hotel as their headquarters.

When the Jews were exiled to Babylon, this led to the creation of the Talmud.

In 1917, Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary drew up the Balfour Declaration which promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which was then and Ottoman area. The Balfour Declaration was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

In Germany during WW II, Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island.

But the Jews did not want to hear this. They wanted to go to Palestine. At that time Palestine had a minority Jewish population.

This then led to the Transfer Agreement. The Jews could go to Palestine but they had to leave their personal wealth behind.

It has ALWAYS been about the money. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2021-09-14 16:48:26 Reply Private Reply

#11: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#2)

Wow, they have an 'antichrist' in Islam? Shows the cult has to have some very interesting hidden origins. I tried googling 'daijal' and he seems to be traditionally depicted (there are pictures in Islam?) with one eye shut -- an insider motif almost as blatant as the hand hidden in the coat.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-07 17:41:44 Reply Private Reply

#12: BTP Holdings To: randge (#7)

the rape

Rape of Nanking: Japan's WWII apology to reopen old wounds with China.

This reopened old wounds. But the people of both countries think it is past time to fix the problem. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2021-10-07 19:13:50 Reply Private Reply

#13: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet. Do you remember gay artists more than decade ago putting a statue of Jesus in a jar and filling it with piss. A fruitcake tried that in London art gallery. A Muslim called up and explained that he was disrespecting a Muslim prophet. The exhibit was pulled.

Islam recognizes Jesus as a Jewish Messiah. Daijal is the anti-Messiah. He is Jewish. Some modern Muslims think that the anti-Christ is actually the modern banking system.

Horse posted on 2021-10-08 01:35:52 Reply Private Reply

#14: NeoconsNailed To: Horse, Straitgate, Ada (#13)

Yes, the hateful "P*** Christ" kitsch. Exactly how Islam regards Jesus may be complicated -- no time alas to pore over this, alas

network.crcna.org/ecumeni...erfaith/who-messiah- islam

I've always heard it reveres him as a moral prophet etc. That of course would be wonderful except (1) we never hear of any mention of him in that context and (2) it brings up the old challenge -- if Jesus was valid only that far, is the rest of him insane or maybe delusional? (Not asking this, just revisiting the Christian eg fundy view -- prolly parafrazing C.S. Lewis.)

Jesus was an Israelite, BTW -- not a jew.

israelect .com/reference/JackMohr/jm026a.htm

Incidentally I'm getting my very 1st taste of Windows 10 at this moment. Seems way better than I expected, tho' it's no replacement for the immortal and trustworthy Win7. I ordered an extra of my main laptop in Ebay and it came with a bootleg of 10 -- would overwrite with 7 but am SSD-only now.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-08 06:43:21 Reply Private Reply

#15: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#14)

Jesus was a Galilean. They were forcibly converted to Judaism just before 100 BC.

Israel and Judah were never united as one nation.

There never was a Temple of Solomon. David was no king as the population of Judah was only 1,600 at that time.

The Bible says Jesus was tou Nazareth, the Nazarene in Greek. The early Christians thought that meant he was born in a town called Nazareth but there was no such town then. tou (the in English) is a genitive. It could have meant he was from that place but it did not exist at that time. So it probably meant that he had taken a Nazarene vow as had Sampson of the long hair.

The above came from The Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein, an Israeli archaeologist.

Horse posted on 2021-10-08 07:10:51 Reply Private Reply

#16: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#15)

A Galilean, yes. "Converted to Judaism" -- extremely astute. They were (for want of a better term) Hebrewists or Yahwists before that -- the OT religion that has no name like the ancient Greek and Roman ones. Pleasexplain your 2nd and 3rd para? It sounds like you're daring the wild territory between the Bible and reality -- I'm sure we can trust Israel Finkelstein for NY scholarship ;-)

Nazarene is different from Nazirite

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi rite

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-08 15:24:44 Reply Private Reply

#17: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#16)

The Bible was written by foreigners who did not understand Hebrew. They used the term Golgotha and thought it was Hebrew. Not true. The New Testament was written in Koine Geek, which was used by uneducated people outside of Greece.

Horse posted on 2021-10-08 18:29:08 Reply Private Reply

#18: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#17)

St. Paul et al didn't know Greek? Golgotha is from Aramaic via Hebrew, closely related I'm sure.

And the OT?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-08 19:10:59 Reply Private Reply

#19: StraitGate To: NeoconsNailed (#14)

The maybe-not-fixable fan is dying (noisy!) in my not-so-old laptop with Win7, and a replacement fan is pretty pricey -- about half of what I could buy the same machine (used) for from Amazion -- with a supposedly legit copy of Win10.

N.B. When I got a new desktop computer with Win10 a few years ago, some cognoscente -- maybe Rivero?; he's a computer genius, you know -- posted a list or linked to a site with a list of settings to check and/or change to minimize Win10's spying on you and ratting you out to Microsoft/Gov. Just took a few minutes; well worth it. Probably should re-check these settings occasionally.

StraitGate posted on 2021-10-08 22:44:40 Reply Private Reply

#20: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

Paul did not write the Gospels. He did not learn Greek as a native speaker in Greece which was my point. The NT is written in Koine Geek. Aramaic is very close to ancient Hebrew. The OT is pure fantasy. There never was a Temple of Solomon.

Horse posted on 2021-10-09 02:14:11 Reply Private Reply

#21: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#20)

I'm confused, but merely curious -- how much of the NT is fantasy in your view?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 03:21:16 Reply Private Reply

#22: NeoconsNailed To: StraitGate (#19)

Prolly should. Rivero's not a computer genius, but is a computer godsend for me over and over including re the then-new and -malevolent Win10. On his advice I never update Windows or Java and am feeling no pain from it (am I repeating myself again!).

Could an accumulation of dust be the fan problem? I finally had one of mine taken apart and thoro'ly cleaned recently -- prolly duck soup for you.

What model laptop do you use? Any of you out there with a P875 Satellite you don't need, let's deal.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA&t=3s

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 03:34:53 Reply Private Reply

#23: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

Paul was a liar. The followers of Jesus like James remained inside the Jewish religion. I would still consider myself to be a Christian though I follow the mystical side which is based in Egyptian and Greek theories.

Horse posted on 2021-10-09 07:31:48 Reply Private Reply

#24: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#16)

A Galilean

“[Jesus] said to them: ‘Come after me, and I will make you fishers of men.’ At once they abandoned their nets and followed him.”—Matthew 4:19, 20

BTP Holdings posted on 2021-10-09 10:53:15 Reply Private Reply

#25: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#23)

Theories?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 11:38:43 Reply Private Reply

#26: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#24)

So the story goes. I'd like to believe it but it gets harder every year :- s

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 11:39:21 Reply Private Reply

#27: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#25)

The Bible is not history. It is experiential mysticism. You might prefer the term philosophies.

Please no more on this topic.

Horse posted on 2021-10-09 12:25:35 Reply Private Reply

#28: StraitGate To: NeoconsNailed (#22)

Lenovo ThinkPad T440S. Took it apart today, cleaned the fan with rubbing likker, and replaced and reworked the foam around the edge where the fan assembly is clamped into a slot on the enclosure. Tightened several slightly loose screws inside. Re-assembled, et voilà! -- quiet as a Kirchenmaus.

Will oil the bearing if the noise comes back. But that would be an only temporary fix, as the bearing is designed and intended be operated dry, because if oiled or greased it will collect dust and gum up over time.

StraitGate posted on 2021-10-09 21:14:07 Reply Private Reply

#29: Dakmar To: StraitGate (#28)

We forsake you..:)

Dakmar posted on 2021-10-09 21:31:45 Reply Private Reply

#30: StraitGate To: Dakmar (#29)

StraitGate posted on 2021-10-09 21:55:06 Reply Private Reply

#31: Dakmar To: StraitGate, Esso, Lod (#30)

Let's go Brandon!

Dakmar posted on 2021-10-09 21:57:58 Reply Private Reply

#32: Esso To: Dakmar (#31)

I just come here for the music, man.

Esso posted on 2021-10-09 22:03:35 Reply Private Reply

#33: Dakmar To: Esso (#32)

I just come here for the music, man.

Dakmar posted on 2021-10-09 22:08:57 Reply Private Reply

#34: NeoconsNailed To: StraitGate (#28)

Wish I had your nollej. If I took the bottom off it'd never go back on right again!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 23:39:52 Reply Private Reply

#35: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#27)

And 5 tons of what I would ruefully call awful bunk.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 23:46:46 Reply Private Reply

#36: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#24)

That's beautiful, but I like the incestuous rape and golden hemorrhoids verses -- am setting 'em to music :-)

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-09 23:49:40 Reply Private Reply

#37: Esso To: NeoconsNailed, 4um (#34)

...nollej...

You're spelling stops me in my tracks sometimes, like your interpretation of basketball and football this morning. Most times I figure it out, sometimes I don't.

All the time, I don't know the point. Is it sarcasm, hatred, humor, what? If you've got something to spill, spill it. Most of us here are pretty decent folks.

"I'm hypnotized by your spelling"

Esso posted on 2021-10-10 00:00:06 Reply Private Reply

#38: NeoconsNailed To: Esso (#37)

Is it sarcasm, hatred, humor, what?

"All of them" ;)

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-10 06:50:22 Reply Private Reply

#39: randge To: Horse (#17)

The New Testament was written in Koine Geek, which was used by uneducated people outside of Greece.

You might want to check your facts on this one, Horse. The uneducated of the time may have spoken a kind of Greek, but the uneducated did not write Greek -- least ways any Greek that was passed on to us.

The Hellenistic form of Greek, "Koine" was the literary successor to the Attic used by Classical writers such as Plato.

The Greek employed in the New Testament including the Gospels was also known as "ecclesiastical" or "patristic" Greek and was a standard literary idiom used in the Eastern Mediterranean form around the first century BC onward.

randge posted on 2021-10-24 22:12:25 Reply Private Reply

#40: Horse To: randge (#39)

My point was that the people who spoke Koine Greek were neither Greek nor educated. The ancient world was educated. Roman soldiers used written words and symbols to move men about in battle.

Koine Greek was simply the common language of the Mediterranean world in the first century. As Alexander the Great conquered the “civilized world” of his time, he spread Greek language and culture. Much like English has become today, Greek became the most common and pervasive “international language” of the day. Since most people could understand Koine, it was uniquely suited to proclaim the gospel throughout the world.

Not only was Koine Greek common in the sense it enjoyed widespread usage throughout the Roman Empire, but it was also common in the sense that it was not the language of the intellectual and academic elites. Classical Greek was used by the educated class. Koine Greek was the language of the working man, the peasant, the vendor, and the housewife—there was nothing pretentious about it. It was the vernacular, or vulgar language, of the day. The great works of Greek literature were written in Classical Greek. No scholar today would care to study anything written in Koine Greek, except for the fact that it is the language of the New Testament. God wanted His Word to be accessible to everyone, and He chose the common language of the day, Koine.

Horse posted on 2021-10-24 22:34:36 Reply Private Reply

#41: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#40)

A guy's coming to the numismatic convention here in Greenville next weekend to lecture on koines, er, coins in the Bible.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-24 23:55:20 Reply Private Reply

#42: NeoconsNailed To: Esso (#1)

"We're from the Taliban. We're here to help you."

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-24 23:56:09 Reply Private Reply

#43: Lod To: NeoconsNailed (#42)

Wondering what's going on with the cia's poppy fields...

Lod posted on 2021-10-25 11:00:32 Reply Private Reply

#44: Esso To: Lod (#43)

Wondering what's going on with the cia's poppy fields...

Same-same.

Esso posted on 2021-10-25 11:16:01 Reply Private Reply

#45: NeoconsNailed To: Lod (#43)

I'm wondering if Washington really ever leaves any of the countries it bludgeons -- especially if any of its favorite substances are involved.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-25 12:06:35 Reply Private Reply

#46: randge To: Horse (#40)

Please.

Although some Gospel writers like Mark wrote less well that the more polished Luke, these works were written to a standard of the time which was the koine or common - but not substandard form.

"Classical" Greek or Attic was out of fashion as a literary language by the time the Gospels were being created. Attic is the form that we find the works of Homer published in today as well as the works of the writers of Athens in its ascendency. Koine was its successor.

Neither Brits nor Americans speak or write the Jacobean English of the KJV Bible. That does not make either dialect substandard. Rather English has evolved from one standard to another over centuries, as has Greek as well.

Koine Greek (UK: /ÈkTjniÐ/;[2][3][4] Modern Greek: •»»·½¹ÃÄ¹º® š¿¹½®, romanized: Ellinistikí Kiní, lit. 'Common Greek', [elinistiÈci ciÈni]), also known as Alexandrian dialect, common Attic, Hellenistic or Biblical Greek, was the common supra-regional form of Greek spoken and written during the Hellenistic period, the Roman Empire and the early Byzantine Empire. . . .
Literary Koine was the medium of much of post-classical Greek literary and scholarly writing, such as the works of Plutarch and Polybius.[5] Koine is also the language of the Christian New Testament, of the Septuagint (the 3rd-century BC Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible), and of most early Christian theological writing by the Church Fathers. In this context, Koine Greek is also known as "Biblical", "New Testament", "ecclesiastical" or "patristic" Greek.[8] The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius also wrote his private thoughts in Koine Greek in a work that is now known as The Meditations.[9] Koine Greek continues to be used as the liturgical language of services in the Greek Orthodox Church.[10] - Wiki

randge posted on 2021-10-25 16:12:33 Reply Private Reply

#47: Lod To: NeoconsNailed, Esso, 4um (#45)

No, like a cancer, the MIC just stays and stays and stays, hoping and planning to metastasize wherever else it can.

Lod posted on 2021-10-26 12:18:49 Reply Private Reply

#48: NeoconsNailed To: Lod (#47)

It is indeed a deadly plague, worse than cancer, black death or Spanish flu. (MIC? :)

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-26 13:15:32 Reply Private Reply

#49: Lod To: NeoconsNailed (#48)

Military Industrial Complex

Lod posted on 2021-10-26 14:24:01 Reply Private Reply

#50: NeoconsNailed To: Lod (#49)

Should have caught that one. Now will everybody please add my variant to their collection -- the government-media complex?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2021-10-26 15:36:39 Reply Private Reply

Source:	https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taliban-collect-weapons-civilians-they-no-longer-need-protection
Published:	Aug 17, 2021
Author:	Tyler Durden
Post Date:	2021-08-17 03:09:05 by Horse
Views:	1278

Taliban "Collect" Weapons From Civilians In Kabul