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#1: NeoconsNailed    To: Horse (#0)

They gouge you on normal energy, sell you a fake alternative, gouge you on that and watch you squirm.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 06:40:50   Reply   Private Reply

#2: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#1)

They gouge you on normal energy, sell you a fake alternative, gouge you on that and watch you squirm.

Nikola Tesla said electricity should be free for everyone since it is in the air around us all. But there is no profit in that, so.... ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2022-01-03 08:18:33   Reply   Private Reply

#3: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#2)

So...... We're all routinely buying products bearing the names of the monsters who killed him for it :s

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 11:28:25   Reply   Private Reply

#4: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

No. Tesla's reputation is grossly overblown.

He did assert that he could transmit a LOT of electrical energy wirelessly, and he convinced some well-heeled investors to finance him for some time while he developed that idea. But it never panned out -- not even close -- and I'm not aware of any trained physicist or electrical engineer who believes that Tesla's approach is possible today. High power wireless transmission of electrical energy requires close magnetic coupling or very high frequency (microwave) and directional antennas. Dangerous to anybody who gets in the way of the beam, and difficult to convert back to a more useable form - - say, to power an electric motor.

In his later days he was a weirdo and a con man. I don't know of any documentation that supports the notion that Tesla was "done in" by the establishment because he and his ideas posed a credible threat to their electrical monopoly and profits.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 12:55:25   Reply   Private Reply

#5: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#4)

Did he make any extraordinary contributions to science?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 14:07:52   Reply   Private Reply

#6: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

Sure did. But his now-known-to-be-outlandish claims regarding wireless transmission of high power electrical energy, and his shameless self-promotion and the cult following that grew from that detract from his genuine accomplishments in the field and industry.

He may have claimed that people could get (or ought to get) electrical energy "free" if transmitted wirelessly through the air. (If he did, then that was self-marketing bombast.) But as far as I know, he never implied that such energy would not have to first be generated by converting some other form of energy (e.g. oil or coal) into electrical energy. He was indeed a leading authority on the generation of electrical energy, so he undoubtedly knew that large amounts of electrical energy weren't just floating around in thin air waiting to be freely harvested.

technologyandsociety.org/...he-history-of-innovation/

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 14:51:43   Reply   Private Reply

#7: BTP Holdings    To: StraitGate (#4)

Tesla's reputation is grossly overblown.

When Tesla died in a small apartment in NYC, government agents went in and stole all of his notes and papers, never to be seen again. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2022-01-03 15:51:01   Reply   Private Reply

#8: BTP Holdings    To: Horse (#0)

This is what happens when the Rothschilds take over your government.

Absolutely true.

After Japan surrendered, U.S. troops found a cave in the mountains where the Japs were working on the German jet fighter. they hadn't yet gotten it operational. Just imagine if they did before the nukes were dropped. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2022-01-03 15:54:29   Reply   Private Reply

#9: StraitGate    To: BTP Holdings (#7)

At the time, the US government was involved in a major war to help make Europe safe for communism. They seized Tesla's stuff in case he had any info that the anticommunists could use in their war effort. That said, I don't doubt that the government agents would lie about what they did or didn't find. And their report was classified for a long time.

But I think it's safe to assume that if gov had found the plans for the particle beam death ray weapon that Tesla allegedly claimed he had invented, that gov would have developed and used it.

More info here (I don't claim it's all accurate):

www.history.com/news/niko...la-files-declassified-fbi

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 16:07:32   Reply   Private Reply

#10: BTP Holdings    To: StraitGate (#9)

But I think it's safe to assume that if gov had found the plans for the particle beam death ray weapon that Tesla allegedly claimed he had invented, that gov would have developed and used it.

And just what makes you think the CIA black budget has not been utilized to develop that particle beam death ray?

Undoubtedly something of that nature would be so secret it would be, as James Bond would say, "For your eyes only." ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2022-01-03 16:13:45   Reply   Private Reply

#11: StraitGate    To: BTP Holdings (#10)

They would have already used it on us.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 16:50:55   Reply   Private Reply

#12: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#6)

What about his plan to "transmit messages, telephony and even facsimile images across the Atlantic to England and to ships at sea based on his theories of using the Earth to conduct the signals" = Wardenclyffe Tower on LI NY?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 17:34:45   Reply   Private Reply

#13: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

Marconi (and a few others, I think) beat Tesla to the punch on wireless (radio)telegraphy. Seeing that, Tesla announced that with his apparatus he would be able to transmit POWER -- which is a whole nother thing compared to transmitting radio waves that carry primarily information, and very little usable power. His promise to wirelessly transmit power was unkept.

Not sure what Tesla had in mind regarding using the earth to conduct the signals. Radio waves propagate through space just fine without an adjacent planet. That said, certain wavelengths of radio signals can travel farther on earth when atmospheric conditions are favorable -- the signal bounces back and forth (skips) between the earth's surface and the ionosphere as it travels over the horizon and partly around the world.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 18:06:18   Reply   Private Reply

#14: Esso    To: StraitGate, 4um (#13)

This kid's got a degree in chemistry from the U of IL, Carbondale and a penchant for dangerous stuff, especially lasers.

Building a fire death machine using soviet military tech

Esso posted on 2022-01-03 18:20:11   Reply   Private Reply

#15: StraitGate    To: Esso (#14)

That is one smart kid. I hope he never works for the government.

I think that's the same kid who made some ungodly powerful green laser? I cringed when I watched that one. If he had accidently reflected that thing off of any shiny highly reflective surface in his lab and back on to himself that would have been disastrous. He knows the danger, obviously, and he was careful, but man, you've got only one pair of eyes, and that thing could ruin a retina in milliseconds.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 18:52:47   Reply   Private Reply

#16: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#15)

It has 2,538,363 views in YT -- hate to think how mischief it could inspire at that rate.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 19:56:15   Reply   Private Reply

#17: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#13)

You are a wealth of scientific fascination. Thanx.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 20:07:54   Reply   Private Reply

#18: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#17)

I got 1 and exactly 1 A+ in school -- in a class called Generation and Distribution of Electrical Power. (Should I mention that the main reason I got that superlative grade is that my dad, who was the Southern Division Industrial Power Engineer for the electric company, arranged a field trip for the class?)

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 20:42:10   Reply   Private Reply

#19: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

Here's the electrochemical whiz kid demonstrating a few different means of wirelessly transmitting power. At 11:33 he explicitly refutes the notion that Tesla could have gotten free electrical energy from the air.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 21:14:29   Reply   Private Reply

#20: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#19)

Very groovy but I'm lost literally from the first 60-90 sec. How does a plasma globe's AC manage to line up with the + and - poles on the CFC?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 22:10:27   Reply   Private Reply

#21: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#20)

I don't think that light bulb has + and - poles; it's designed to run on AC power.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 22:52:57   Reply   Private Reply

#22: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#21)

AC doesn't requirem? threaded part looks like a regular bulb.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-03 23:38:49   Reply   Private Reply

#23: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#22)

No + and - designation on the input power terminals of a device that is AC powered, such as that bulb. In an Alternating Current (AC) circuit the current flow reverses every cycle. So half the time the current is flowing into one terminal and out the other, and half the time out one and into the other. No + and -; both terminals get a ~.

BTW, I have the exact same model multimeter as Whiz Kid -- a Fluke 87 V. (Imagine discovering that Nikolai Lugansky plays the same model Bechstein 212 that you practice on at home.)

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-03 23:56:53   Reply   Private Reply

#24: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#23)

Coolo. So it's thus on any household device with standard 2-prong plug? But why do some have one prong slitely bigger than the other, and lots have a third -- that I feel sure I've heard called the ground connection?

Tried this in wikid -- sez "The plug is a male connector, often with protruding pins that match the openings and female contacts in a socket." Greek to me!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 03:49:27   Reply   Private Reply

#25: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#24)

On a 2-prong plug, one blade is wider than the other so that the plug can be inserted only one way. This polarization is for safety; it ensures that the outlet's "hot" wire -- the wire that has on it 120 volts with respect to ground -- gets connected to the appliance correctly, i.e. to the appliance's on/off switch so that when switched off no downstream part of the circuit carries 120 volts. In the case of a lamp, this polarization ensures that the outer screw base, which is easy to touch when replacing a bulb, is never hot, even if the lamp is plugged in and turned on when you change the bulb. Some devices are inherently safer than others; a common AC adapter for say a computer or a phone charger will sometimes have a non-polarized plug because there is little danger of user exposure to high voltage.

A 3-prong plug has a ground pin. This provides extra safety, and is used for a device that has a metal enclosure. If an internal fault causes the hot wire to contact the metal, then current will flow through the 3rd prong back to "ground" at the circuit panel (and trip the circuit breaker) rather than through the user. For some devices the ground terminal also provides some other advantages.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-04 08:42:28   Reply   Private Reply

#26: Esso    To: StraitGate (#25)

You did a lot better job of that than I could have.

Esso posted on 2022-01-04 08:53:26   Reply   Private Reply

#27: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#25)

Aren't those things on AC just like the CFC? I shouldn't be bothering you re stuff I'll never understand (tho the prong sizes were a given).

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 10:53:49   Reply   Private Reply

#28: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#27)

Well, yes, anything that plugs into a wall outlet runs on AC; that's what comes out of the wall.

Some devices are powered directly by that AC power: e.g., old fashioned incandescent light bulbs, a ceiling fan, an old-timey toaster.

But anything with an electronic circuit in it -- including the new LED light bulbs, any radio or TV, computer, microwave oven, etc. will have an AC to DC converter (the "power supply") to power the electronic circuitry, typically (but not always) at DC voltages much lower than the 120 volts AC coming out of the wall.

Not trying to be a boorish didact here; I design electronic products for a living. Mostly consumer these days, with some commercial, industrial and automotive. You've undoubtedly seen some of my designs if you've ever been in a clothing store, a Wal- Mart or similar store, a sporting goods store, a Best Buy or similar, a pet store, etc.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-04 14:49:54   Reply   Private Reply

#29: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#28)

Nothing boorish abt that -- impressive. So they call a wall wart an 'AC adapter' both because it shrinks the current to the needed size and converts it to DC too.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 15:28:22   Reply   Private Reply

#30: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#29)

They call it an "AC adapter" mainly because it allows (adapts) a normally battery-powered device to run from AC wall power.

Some "wall adapters" don't even convert the AC wall power to DC. They're basically just a small transformer; they just convert the 120 volt AC wall power to a (usually) lower AC voltage (and they provide galvanic isolation). The AC to DC conversion circuitry is in the radio, toy, or what have you.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-04 16:15:33   Reply   Private Reply

#31: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#30)

OK.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 16:31:41   Reply   Private Reply

#32: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#31)

Hey, I'd feel the same way if somebody were trying to teach me music theory or female psychology.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-04 16:46:32   Reply   Private Reply

#33: Esso    To: StraitGate (#32)

Normally Clive dissects and analyzes electronic doo-dads. Here's a little detour on the road less travelled...

Esso posted on 2022-01-04 16:57:20   Reply   Private Reply

#34: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#32)

Not feeling any particular way. Am I spos2? ;)

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 17:04:44   Reply   Private Reply

#35: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#34)

I was thinkin' that all that electrogibberish would have worn you out by now.

Aside -- See Lizzy Holmes was found guilty?

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-04 17:12:06   Reply   Private Reply

#36: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#35)

No I hadn't! Great news, even if on only 4 puny charges -- hope there's no 2nd trial!

www.cnn.com/2022/01/03/te...holmes- verdict/index.html

wikid isn't discussing Judge Davila's parentage, but that's a geographical surname and here's a 15th-century converso named Dávila

www.nytimes.com/2014/04/0...nion- centuries-later.html

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-04 17:33:53   Reply   Private Reply

#37: StraitGate    To: NeoconsNailed (#36)

Slimes won't let me read their articles.

StraitGate posted on 2022-01-05 08:55:29   Reply   Private Reply

#38: NeoconsNailed    To: StraitGate (#37)

They mostly won't let me either. Today they're telling me I've reached my limit and get read that story again -- but you get the idea.

nameyourroots.com/home/ names/Davila

NeoconsNailed posted on 2022-01-05 10:33:06   Reply   Private Reply