Now they want to come into my house and put in another spy device "under penalty of law." It wouldn't let me copy & paste, click main link.
MyWater Rules and Regulations
utilities.cityoffortwayne...OLUTION-107-6-30-20-1.pdf
Poster Comment:
I'm sick of this shit.
#1: Esso To: noone222 (#0)
I'm curious as to how they're planning on accomplishing continuous monitoring. I'll bet all roads lead to that 5G bullshit.
Look at section IV, D of the PDF. Always threats.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 14:22:24 Reply Private Reply
#2: BTP Holdings To: Esso (#0)
The City of Fort Wayne wants to puta smart meter in your house? Might as well just give them keys to the property so they can come and go as they please. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2022-04-10 14:28:57 Reply Private Reply
#3: Esso To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#2)
They're threating anybody "under penalty of law" who doesn't want it. See section IV, D of the PDF.
That's only one of the reasons I've got a problem with it.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 14:50:38 Reply Private Reply
#4: Lod To: Esso (#0)
MyWater, MyAss
Bloomington seems to have a much better meter:
Why did the City of Bloomington Utilities install Smart Water Meters? Roughly 30% of the Citys water meters were read with a radio; the other 70% were manually read.
The previous meter reading program faced the following challenges:
Did not allow for timely detection of water leaks. Leaks that go unnoticed can cause expensive water bills and/or property damage.
Many of the meters were approaching the end of their useful life and needed to be replaced.
Manually reading water meters was physically demanding on CBU employees and required a fleet of trucks on the roads daily.
Smart water meters address all of these challenges.
What are Smart Water Meters and how do they work? Smart Water Meters collect water use information just as a manually read meter does. The fundamental advantage is they read every hour and transmit those reads wirelessly every 4 hours to CBU via base stations. CBU employees no longer need to visit homes and businesses to manually record information every month.
Why is there a plastic disk in my water meter lid? The smart meters transmit their data to the base stations using an antenna which looks like a black plastic disk sitting on top of the meter lid. The antenna is waterproof and durable enough for someone to step on. These antenna have been damaged by lawnmowers and other customer activities, so please do be careful when operating equipment around them.
Lod posted on 2022-04-10 18:41:37 Reply Private Reply
#5: Esso To: Lod, Sling Blade, 4um (#4)
Maybe you can explain how a water meter determines between a water leak and flushing a toilet. I can't figure it out.
Lot of unanswered questions.
Bloomington must have outside meter boxes near the street. Up here the meters are all inside the building, lest they freeze.
If I wanted strangers tramping through my house looking around, I'd join a Lonely Hearts Club. I don't respond well to threats by the government. I should probably give my criminal lawyer and bondsman a heads-up next week. I know where this is going.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 18:58:40 Reply Private Reply
#6: Esso To: Lod, 4um (#4)
The Great Seal
In 1945, a group of Soviet children visited the US Embassy in Moscow and gave the Ambassador a hand-carved Great Seal of the US. It stayed in his office until 1952... when technicians discovered a remarkable listening device inside.
This Great Seal replica (ca. 2000) is based on 1945 KGB creation.
US technicians dubbed the Great Seals listening device The Thing. With no battery or circuits, how did it transmit? After two months, British Tech Ops finally figured it out.
The Thing was a passive cavity resonator, activated by a radio beam from a van outside. When people spoke, sound waves entered through tiny holes under the eagles beak. These vibrated a membrane that modulated the radio beam, bouncing it back as an audio signal to the people listening in the van.
The pics are a replica.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 19:29:00 Reply Private Reply
#7: BTP Holdings To: Esso (#5)
Uh oh. Is there anything I can do to help out?
Michael Franzese, the New York member of La Cosa Nostra in the Bonanno family said there were six of them who took the blood oath on the same night. Five of them are dead now. He said the night he walked the 30 yards to his car when he quit, he figured he would get shot in the back. It didn't happen.
He is 70 years old now and is a motivational speaker. He said when he walked away, he took with him the 5 or 6 million a week he was making for the mob.
You don't hurt people like that and just go on with your life. Rudy Giuliani told him, "I gave your father 50 years. I'm going to give you 100." That didn't happen either. He did 10 years for something else.
When I worked with the Bondsman in Lebanon, we did some bounty hunting. I made a few hundred doing that. On time in his office, I called my ex co-driver. He asked, "What are you doing?" I said, "Working with a Bondsman." He said, "WHAT!?" We talked for a few minutes and I hung up. I told the Bondsman, "Yeah, he's a regular criminal." ROTFLOL
BTP Holdings posted on 2022-04-10 19:45:23 Reply Private Reply
#8: StraitGate To: Esso (#6)
Electrical engineers are good people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Leon_Theremin
StraitGate posted on 2022-04-10 19:59:48 Reply Private Reply
#9: Esso To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#7)
Yeah, don't worry. Somebody has to stand opposed to these bastards. It's the price of being a man.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 20:03:42 Reply Private Reply
#10: Esso To: StraitGate (#8)
The ones I've met and dealt with were.
I didn't remember Theremin designed that thing.
(Edit) Haven't thought about laser mics for a long time either.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 20:06:49 Reply Private Reply
#11: BTP Holdings To: Esso (#9)
I intend to go over to the Sheriff's office here in town and file a complaint about my missing firearms. They have investigators who will contact various pawn shops in nearby areas. Someone told me, "Try east." That would be Lebanon. Of course, they can contact as many pawn shops as possible about what firearms have been purchased in the last few years.
I have a list of some of the guns in the safe and I do not necessarily need serial numbers because of their rarity. But it is the precious metals in the safe that will be irreplaceable. I saw the brother-in-law of former manager in town. I said to him, "You know if there had been some gold in that safe you would really have been in the money." He wouldn't look at me. Reactions are better than a lie test at times.
And I am going to get the retired Conservator for her Breach of Fiduciary Duty for opening a CD for $10,000 at the bank. Then a medical bill came in. she did not have funds to pay it. She was forced to close CD early and take the penalty. She will be forced to forfeit her monthly fees on that, and this will put the hurt on her. In Missouri it is five-year Statute of Limitations. It has been about three years now. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2022-04-10 20:19:13 Reply Private Reply
#12: Esso To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#11)
Last time I called the FWPD desk sergeant to get a report made when the garbage men (ankle bracelet gang) damaged 40' of my fence, they dispatched four cars.
Somebody's been peeking at my (supposedly secret) "permanent record." LOL.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 20:32:49 Reply Private Reply
#13: BTP Holdings To: Esso (#12)
One time in the old Blazer I was coming back to Chicago from a trip to Arkansas to do some mineral collecting. I was on the front door. I came under a bridge and headlights came on, on the get on ramp.
I grabbed the mic for the CB and said, "Uh oh, Smoky Bear." Another driver said, "It must be a secret."
I got off with a warning. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2022-04-10 20:45:05 Reply Private Reply
#14: Esso To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#13)
I'm gettin' too old to be screwing around frightening little tatted up soyboys in lockup, but I do love the fight. I just don't like being threatened over bullshit.
Wasn't very smart publishing pics of their vehicles. That might be costly. It's pretty safe to assume that the vehicles have 360 degree dashcams though.
I might do a deep dive and figure out who these people really are.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 20:59:24 Reply Private Reply
#15: Lod To: Esso (#12)
Lod posted on 2022-04-10 20:59:43 Reply Private Reply
#16: Esso To: Lod (#15)
I'm no stranger to frozen pipes. We had one February 10 or 20 years ago where it was -20 for the lows the whole month. Man, that was hard on vehicles. Might as well have been in Siberia.
Esso posted on 2022-04-10 21:08:41 Reply Private Reply
#17: Lod To: Esso (#16)
Lod posted on 2022-04-11 08:05:43 Reply Private Reply
#18: Esso To: Lod (#17)
I've got HVAC problems at the secret airbase, but my serviceman doesn't have wheels under him yet.
It's always been too hot or too cold where I've been in the past. I'll get used to it again.
Esso posted on 2022-04-11 08:17:04 Reply Private Reply
#19: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt To: Esso (#9)
Thank you for fighting.
I did a little bit of searching last night and landed on this website with some interesting comments, one so far, being pretty frightening:
"...Janet Curtis says: October 5, 2014 at 4:50 pm
oh really? my neighbor and her pets were killd in an explosion and fire set off by smart meters..if that wasnt the cause and they do deny it then said they lost it when they took it for investigation. her home was on fire, the neighbor pulled her and dog out, then the whole place blew up. Her husband has developed cancer, the same appliances she complained about going out were going out at my townhome. I have an advocate now and she called the right person for nvenergy in vegas and nev. if they were not afraid of lawsuits why did they come out and put analog bk on gas and electric?(they said water company was different jurisdiction.) My friend is dead..another friend in ny said her entire apt building blew up. Her husband died of cancer. my advocate said that she has health problems and ringing in her ears. websites say it is not approved by osha and they did walk right in my yard after i said NO. but then i had to pay 53$ for analog that i never wanted off in the first place. when i asked how they got in my gate they said it was open. I never leave it open. on the way out he said oh here is yr padlock. Now they said for free they will check all appliances and wiring for free hmmm having a hard time waiting for apt. the trauma of our sweet neighbors demise put people in a horrible fun here. they can be sued by my friends husband since he lost everything. he was ironically at stanford getting chemo. she had no way out and her and dog died 48 hr later. her cat simply blew through the roof. talk about exacerbating my ptsds!! a meter reader came out and told me that installers wernt trained so installing is a prob also..and he said 50% say their bill went down others like me went up x 3 and im single. on fixed income too. My trees and birds have died. no one knows why. another huge expense to fix. Yes be afraid. and there are some people so sensitive to al this they DO live off grid and in caves. there is a documentary on them ..anyone that is a naysayer isnt informed or believe the enery cos lies. they are blowing everywhere its global. not osha approved therefore actually illegal..."
Above that was this:
"...RobertWilliams says: February 23, 2011 at 8:03 am
1. INSURANCE COMPANIES WONT INSURE THE HEALTH PROBLEMS FROM WIRELESS Smart Meters
And Insurance companies dont sacrifice insurance premiums ($$$) for nothing.
TV NEWS VIDEO Insurance Companies Wont Insure Wireless Device Health Risks (3 minutes, 13 seconds)
eon3emfblog.net/?p=382..."
stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/
After that I ran across a recommended site ( www.freedomtaker.com/ ) that said to go here:
www.emfhelpcenter.com/ .... wherein I saw their "NOTICE OF LIABILITY" document. Maybe it could be of some use? Maybe you could check with your insurer(s) and see if they would cover future EMF illness, property damage, and death?
They offer other warning templates as well:
"...NOTICE OF FRAUD If, at any time, the power company offers you an electronic "OPT-OUT" meter they are committing fraud. Electronic meters are not an opt-out, only the traditional ELECTROMECHANICAL meters are a true "opt-out" because electronic utility meters:
1) Have no surge protection and represent a serious a fire hazard.
2) Have switch mode power supplies causing dirty electricity.
3) Conduct unlawful surveillance on your private activities in your home.
4) May transmit radio frequencies.
If you are offered an electronic meter as an "Opt-Out" make sure and send this "Notice of Fraud" the same way as your Notice of Liability above. When you read that Notice of Fraud download (it is less than two pages) you will understand more about that. If your utility company does not give you a well-supported rebuttal against their fraud, they are agreeing to this violation. Well-supported means they have to show that they disclosed that their "opt-out" did not opt-out of those hazards and harm and was not a true opt-out.
POSTED NOTICES
Due to fire, explosion and health hazards it is important to POST NOTICES at the utility meter to warn installers of their liabilities and to warn passers by to STAY CLEAR of the meter. If you take pictures of these notices posted by your utility meter those pictures may protect you legally if the utility meter causes damage. The following notices can be printed out, laminated at your local office supply store, and hung or mounted on or near the utility meter. Property owners need to post notice so they cannot be sued when the electronic utility meter burns up, explodes, causes injury or makes someone ill. Download free posted notices here:
"NOTICE TO INSTALLERS"
"WARNING TO PASSERS BY."..."
More at the site:
www.emfhelpcenter.com/
"If you are offered an electronic meter as an "Opt-Out" make sure and send this "Notice of Fraud" the same way as your Notice of Liability above. When you read that Notice of Fraud download (it is less than two pages) you will understand more about that."
It looks like Indiana does have some form of "Opt-Out", for "a monthly fee":
www.wane.com/news/local-n...meters-around-fort-wayne/
Best of luck, and I hope you can stay out of jail.
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Oh! I remembered ChristianObserver had info on smart meters. I wondered what her claim to fame was in this regard, and just now read she worked for geoengineeringwatch for two years. She has written on the dangers of the smart-metered homes during the California DEW fires.
Anyway, there's this:
Win! Landmark Seventh Circuit Decision Says Fourth Amendment Applies to Smart Meter Data - September 1, 2018
christianobserver.net/win...lies-to-smart-meter-data/
more lawsuits won:
christianobserver.net/smart-meter-lawsuits-cases-won/
Here's her smart meters archive: christianobserver.net/category/health/smart-meters/
And HERE's something interesting. A video about the blood cells after exposure to smart meters. I am going to try to view that shortly. NOTE how the pic of the blood cells look REMARKABLY like the blood cells after the clot shot!!
christianobserver.net/blo...-exposure-to-smart-meter/
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2022-04-11 08:20:44 Reply Private Reply
#20: noone222 To: Esso (#1)
Living in a police state may cause some people anxiety. In some cases extreme resistance may occur. I'm sure that some of the resistance measures may seem questionable to the authorities as do these invasive measures they deem necessary in order to remove the human connections employed currently to read the meters.
The systematic removal of the need for humans to interact is blatantly obvious while being carried out silently. The end result will be the least desirable outcome. Many freedom loving people know that the Constitution is being used to wipe the asses of the same politicians that take oaths to uphold it. A warrant issued by a court after consideration of a judge is the requirement when a "CRIME" is charged.
Esso, we have water meters here in the part of Texas where I hang out that are wireless without having to enter the premises to install a wire. I wasn't aware of the dangers of 5G before when they put the wireless water meters in. They are away from the homes and not wired to the house but to the meter that is away from the home under the manhole cover under ground.
They are now trying to install wireless electric meters that will be attached to the home. In Texas we have the ability to keep our analog meters if we're willing to "pay" additional amount to cover a meter reader and a surcharge to keep the old meter. I'm going to sue these fucktards for trying to charge me for their advantage and a metering system that actually cheats the customer while at the same time monitoring every "smart" device in the home. All of this totalitarian bullshit is dependent on 5G.
The new electric meters will also give readings in real time where the electric company may shut off power when they deem it necessary. This is a complete and unnecessary invasion of privacy and fascistic anti-human, anti-freedom, anti Constitution act against the sanctity of a man's home / castle.
noone222 posted on 2022-04-11 09:04:58 Reply Private Reply
#21: noone222 To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)
noone222 posted on 2022-04-11 09:07:57 Reply Private Reply
#22: Esso To: noone222 (#20)
Read my new tagline I changed a while ago after 20 years of "My Man Godfrey".
Esso posted on 2022-04-11 09:11:00 Reply Private Reply
#23: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt To: noone222 (#20)
Thank YOU!!!
Not to mention that 5G will be DEVASTATING to those who got the clot shot (I just read that somewhere in the last day or two), and can sicken those who are not, even to death. And since it appears the blood of those who got the clot shot looks almost identical to those who are exposed to smart meters, it's not hard to imagine they are planning an extinction event for Americans on the day of their choosing. We can be replaced by their invasion forces. (There ARE simple devices to block the harmful radiation, but that's not the whole point here). Sounds so Biblical, so it doesn't surprise me.
God be with you and Esso both in your endeavors.
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2022-04-11 09:38:34 Reply Private Reply
#24: Esso To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, noone222 (#23)
Me and Doug are just doin' what men are supposed to do. We're not heroes, just (old-timey) normal.
Esso posted on 2022-04-11 09:43:43 Reply Private Reply
#25: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt To: Esso (#24)
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2022-04-11 09:49:17 Reply Private Reply
#26: Esso To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, noone222 (#25)
I can't speak for noone, but I think we're just normal.
I'm definitely not speaking for Doug here, but I'm a coward. That's probably why I'm still alive. "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." Spending a night in lockup scaring soyboys is a vacation, not a tribulation.
Save that for noone and my late Dads (Real dad Pacific Theater, step-dad ferry pilot taking bombers to Europe). I just volunteered because I'm a prick, loved America and hated most people. I learned a lot between 1980 and 1995 with the Company. Most of it bad.
Sometimes you gotta stand your ground and get in the killing zone. I'd hoped I would've never had to pick up a firearm again, but you don't always get what you want. I prefer a blade, that's why I carry an 8" folding pruning saw. I identify as an arborist. I only sleep with trees and women.
It just is what it is, I'm a coward. That's why I'm still alive.
I'm a pretty nice guy right up to the point I'm not.
Esso posted on 2022-04-11 10:39:45 Reply Private Reply
#27: noone222 To: Esso (#22)
noone222 posted on 2022-04-11 11:52:02 Reply Private Reply
#28: Lod To: noone222, Esso, all (#27)
Lod posted on 2022-04-11 11:57:08 Reply Private Reply