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#22: Pinguinite To: BTP Holdings (#21)

The Israelites of the Old Testament are not the Jews of today. ;)

I agree that's most likely, though blood lines are obviously mixed on a continuous basis so they may have a little bit. I might too, for that matter. How many Israelis even LOOK like they are native to the land? Pretty much the Muslim Israelis and no one else.

If I'm not mistaken, "Jew" is a term derived from Judah, which according to the Bible was only one of 12 tribes.

I say it's a virtual certainty that the people with the most blood of ancient Israel (i.e. "God's Chosen People") are, in fact, all the actual Semites native to the area nearly all of which have been Muslims for most of Islamic history, which includes the Palestinians. Islam did not exist until 300 AD or so, well after Israel so it could never have been expressly demonized as a variation of what we call today Judaism. People simply did not migrate very much until about 120-250 years ago. Both Islam and Judaism have probably mutated a lot over the centuries and in fact the variations we have today in both faiths proves it has. Christianity has too, of course.

How ironic it is that modern evangelicals that believe they are catering to "God's Chosen" of Israel in excusing the complete cattle treatment of Palestinians may in fact be complicit in destroying the very people that have a far greater claim to actually being "God's Chosen".

Pinguinite posted on 2024-05-09 12:10:54 Reply Private Reply

#23: titorite To: The_Rock (#0)

Oh my gawd, Now its 130 Isreali hostages, shit this time next week Gazq is gonna be responsible for kidnapping all of isreal. and ITS TRUE> IT IS THA TRUF. ITS REAL. ISREAL. stop thinking your stupid thoughts you dumb goy and just give your chosen masters what they are owned you souless chattle. You mean nothing next to God chosen, Nothing filthy goyim. Stop talking so much and start giving your money to the ADL to make up for your blasphemy.

titorite posted on 2024-05-09 16:02:51 Reply Private Reply

#24: The_Rock To: watchman (#19)

You are not of God, fake Jews are not of God, and the current state of Israel is not of God and are not chosen in any sense of the Word.
Lying and murdering is all you have.

First I don't care what a lying sand nigger thinks.

The Jews are of God. They are the Chosen people to reveal his word.

You support genocide of Jews. The reason I say that is because you want the Jews removed from Israel. The only way to do that is to kill them. Then you say it is ok for Jews to be beaten by sticks because they are migrants. So you support genocide. You won't admit it because you are a liar.

You support Hamas which is a murder rape gang.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 18:47:10 Reply Private Reply

#25: The_Rock To: titorite (#23)

Oh my gawd, Now its 130 Isreali hostages, shit this time next week Gazq is gonna be responsible for kidnapping all of isreal

We will check back next week and show you are wrong again. You just make stuff up.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 18:48:11 Reply Private Reply

#26: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#22)

How many Israelis even LOOK like they are native to the land?

How do you know what Israelites are supposed to look like? Just curious.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 18:49:33 Reply Private Reply

#27: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#22)

How many Israelis even LOOK like they are native to the land?

From Adam and Eve came black people, white people, yellow people, and red people etc.

Does Meagan Markle look like she came from a black person? I don't think so.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 18:51:15 Reply Private Reply

#28: The_Rock To: watchman (#19)

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 18:54:17 Reply Private Reply

#29: watchman To: The_Rock (#28)

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Read the verse again. See the very last word "Jacob".

Jacob, not Esau.

Israel, not the Edomite imposters you shill for...

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:01:32 Reply Private Reply

#30: watchman To: The_Rock (#24)

First I don't care what a lying sand nigger thinks.

Did you stop for "happy hour" on your way home?

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:03:19 Reply Private Reply

#31: The_Rock To: watchman (#29)

If you want to discuss the issue, watch the video first. I haven't seen it before so who knows what will come up. The guy is a smart teacher.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:04:03 Reply Private Reply

#32: The_Rock To: watchman (#30)

I don't drink. Only occasionally. Maybe last year or the year before. Not sure.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:04:54 Reply Private Reply

#33: The_Rock To: watchman (#29)

Jacob, not Esau.
Israel, not the Edomite imposters you shill for...

You like saying that but you have no proof of that. You just say it out of hatred in my opinion.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:05:49 Reply Private Reply

#34: watchman To: The_Rock (#31)

If you want to discuss the issue, watch the video first. I haven't seen it before so who knows what will come up. The guy is a smart teacher.

You never watch the vids you post...why should I.

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:14:53 Reply Private Reply

#35: The_Rock To: watchman (#34)

You never watch the vids you post...why should I.

Yes I do. If you don't want to watch the video, then don't. You can always just attack me and say I'm not a Christian.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:16:38 Reply Private Reply

#36: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#33)

You just say it out of hatred in my opinion

You appear to thrive on hatred Stone. A deep, dark, genocidal hatred of those you have been told to hate.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:19:09 Reply Private Reply

#37: watchman To: The_Rock (#35)

If you don't want to watch the video, then don't. You can always just attack me and say I'm not a Christian.

I don't want to watch it.

You are a Christian in name only...no Spirit indwelling.

Stop lying to yourself.

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:20:28 Reply Private Reply

#38: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#36)

You appear to thrive on hatred Stone. A deep, dark, genocidal hatred of those you have been told to hate.

I hate evil. Like for example abortion.

I also see some people who hate Jews just because they are Jews. So I stick up for them because they are just people too.

In fact the Bible predicted the whole world would turn against them. If you can't see that happening you are blind. Willingly.

Ever heard of the Mark of the Beast. Where all people will have to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead in order to buy or sell. I also like warning people about that. So they don't go to hell.

Why do you think some people just hate Jews? I think they are jealous and covetous.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:22:15 Reply Private Reply

#39: watchman To: FormerLurker (#36)

You appear to thrive on hatred Stone. A deep, dark, genocidal hatred of those you have been told to hate.

Yes, he does.

Question: where does such hatred come from?

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:22:34 Reply Private Reply

#40: The_Rock To: watchman (#37)

I don't want to watch it.
You are a Christian in name only...no Spirit indwelling.
Stop lying to yourself.

It is a sin to say that I am not a Christian. You should go look in the mirror, think about it and repent.

I can only lead you to the water. If you don't want to drink I can't make you.

Apparently you would rather just attack me. No matter what I post that is what you do. Every thread.

Thanks for bumping it.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:24:01 Reply Private Reply

#41: The_Rock To: watchman (#39)

Yes, he does.
Question: where does such hatred come from?

Says the person who hates Jews because they are Jews. Fact is the other day you justified the beating of Jews with sticks because they are "migrants".

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:25:20 Reply Private Reply

#42: watchman To: The_Rock (#41)

Fact is the other day you justified the beating of Jews with sticks because they are "migrants".

What? Go read my post again.

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:27:16 Reply Private Reply

#43: The_Rock To: watchman (#42)

#1. To: The_Rock (#0)
The Jews flood Europe with "migrants" then whine when it comes back to haunt them.
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

There is your post. You said they whine about getting beat with sticks.

You hate Jews like Hitler did. Your posts prove it.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:31:28 Reply Private Reply

#44: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#24)

First I don't care what a lying sand nigger thinks.
The Jews are of God. They are the Chosen people to reveal his word.

You don't know who or what God is. The Jews wrote the book that claims they are a "chosen" people. They in reality chose to write what they did in order to control their own population and over time, much of the world.

You never answered my questions concerning the verse in Samuel that commands them to "smite" their perceived adversaries, including ALL of their men, their wives, mothers, sons and daughters, grandparents, pets, and livestock.

Do you think a Creator which created ALL of the Universe and beyond, would need to tell a group of people on Earth to commit genocide, if that Creator actually had a problem with those people?

Do you think that whoever wrote that verse, as well as any similar verses, was actually inspired by God?

Whoever imagined such a thing was possessed by a special sort of evil. And those are the people who constructed the Torah, never mind the Talmud.

That you support the murder of innocent people, most of whom are women and children, illustrates the sort of evil that has consumed you.

It is NEVER OK to "smite" anyone, no matter what your religion tells you.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:32:28 Reply Private Reply

#45: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#44)

You don't know who or what God is. The Jews wrote the book that claims they are a "chosen" people. They in reality chose to write what they did in order to control their own population and over time, much of the world.

Ok that is your opinion. A dumb one in my opinion. Now prove it. You can't.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:33:35 Reply Private Reply

#46: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#44)

You never answered my questions concerning the verse in Samuel that commands them to "smite" their perceived adversaries, including ALL of their men, their wives, mothers, sons and daughters, grandparents, pets, and livestock.
Do you think a Creator which created ALL of the Universe and beyond, would need to tell a group of people on Earth to commit genocide, if that Creator actually had a problem with those people?

Yeah.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:34:18 Reply Private Reply

#47: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#44)

Do you think that whoever wrote that verse, as well as any similar verses, was actually inspired by God?

Yes.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:34:44 Reply Private Reply

#48: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#38)

Why do you think some people just hate Jews?

SOME people might "hate" them because of what they have suffered at their hand.

I think anyone who HATES someone for any reason is inviting darkness into their soul, consuming themselves with negative energy, and projecting that evil outwards which leads to more evil.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:35:43 Reply Private Reply

#49: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#45)

Ok that is your opinion. A dumb one in my opinion. Now prove it. You can't.

Who do you think wrote the Torah?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:36:26 Reply Private Reply

#50: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#44)

Whoever imagined such a thing was possessed by a special sort of evil. And those are the people who constructed the Torah, never mind the Talmud.
That you support the murder of innocent people, most of whom are women and children, illustrates the sort of evil that has consumed you.
It is NEVER OK to "smite" anyone, no matter what your religion tells you.

I disagree. What if God had a plan to redeem mankind and a certain group of people is so evil they would disrupt that plan and not let mankind be redeemed. Since God knows the future he would know.

Since you don't have faith you can't understand that concept. Poor you.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:37:54 Reply Private Reply

#51: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#46)

So you say God would command his "chosen" to commit horrific atrocities?

Are you sure that wasn't Satan they were talking to?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:38:40 Reply Private Reply

#52: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#49)

Who do you think wrote the Torah?

Moses as commanded by God.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:40:07 Reply Private Reply

#53: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#51)

Are you sure that wasn't Satan they were talking to?

Yep.

That is like saying it was evil to stop Hitler.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:41:18 Reply Private Reply

#54: The_Rock To: BTP Holdings (#21)

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:29 Reply Private Reply

#55: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#50)

I disagree. What if God had a plan to redeem mankind and a certain group of people is so evil they would disrupt that plan and not let mankind be redeemed. Since God knows the future he would know.

Any person who believes they have the divine right to inflict horrific suffering upon ANYONE, or even upon other creatures such as animals, fish, birds, etc. is not only consumed by evil, they are insane.

God could strike people dead with a natural disaster or divine intervention, he wouldn't order his "people" to commit horrifically evil deeds.

Evil begets evil.

Someone once wrote, "You will know them by their fruits".

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:54 Reply Private Reply

#56: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#53)

So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:46:04 Reply Private Reply

#57: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#55)

God could

You're not God.

Destroying evil isn't evil.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:48:30 Reply Private Reply

#58: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#57)

Destroying evil isn't evil.

Committing evil is.

And we are ALL children of God, even you Stone..

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:49:43 Reply Private Reply

#59: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#56)

So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?

No.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:09 Reply Private Reply

#60: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#59)

No.

Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:54 Reply Private Reply

#61: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#58)

And we are ALL children of God

Let me correct you again.

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:51:21 Reply Private Reply

#62: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#61)

Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:52:49 Reply Private Reply

#63: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#60)

The_Rock No. Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?

Because I believe in self defense.

You see they had a thing called a cease fire. Hamas broke it and now they are reaping what they sowed.

The Muslims regularly bomb Israel. Israel has a duty to protect their people. They don't have a duty to protect a people who are attacking them. Comprende?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:53:05 Reply Private Reply

#64: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#62)

Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.

You are a simple man. You are using your imagination to project what you think. You are not God.

If you want to know learn Gods word which is only found in the Bible.

It is impossible to please God without faith.

You can do it. Just pray sincerely for guidance.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:30 Reply Private Reply

#65: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#61)

Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:53 Reply Private Reply

#66: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#65)

Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.

Yeah people can say that. Doesn't make it true.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:55:54 Reply Private Reply

#67: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#65)

On a side note. I like George Orwell. But he looks kind of stupid. You having that picture there makes it like it is you and looks kind of stupid.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:57:25 Reply Private Reply

#68: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#64)

You are a simple man.

You obviously aren't a very self aware person and can't see the irony in what you wrote.

You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.

You're free to believe as you wish, but when your beliefs guide you to justify genocide, you should probably reexamine those beliefs.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:58:23 Reply Private Reply

#69: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

justify genocide

What is going on in Gaza isn't genocide.

If Israel wanted to they could kill them all. They aren't. They are pretty restrained.

Now on the other hand if Hamas could kill all the Jews. They definitely would.

If you don't agree with that you aren't an honest person. Or at the least if poorly informed.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:00:31 Reply Private Reply

#70: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.

Pretty funny that the words of this "Middle Eastern Tribe" is affecting the whole world and is the topic of conversation worldwide for thousands of years. That Jesus is the most influential "person" to ever walk the earth. Why is that?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:02:10 Reply Private Reply

#71: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

You know what. Despite our disagreements and insults at each other. I like you. You are someone you can have a conversation with.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:03:19 Reply Private Reply

Source:	https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/jerusalem-protesters-block-trucks-carrying-aid-to-gaza/
Published:	May 6, 2024
Author:	Times of Israel
Post Date:	2024-05-06 21:42:20 by The_Rock
Views:	12500

No aid to Gaza until hostages are set free.