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#52: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#49)

Who do you think wrote the Torah?

Moses as commanded by God.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:40:07 Reply Private Reply

#53: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#51)

Are you sure that wasn't Satan they were talking to?

Yep.

That is like saying it was evil to stop Hitler.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:41:18 Reply Private Reply

#54: The_Rock To: BTP Holdings (#21)

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:29 Reply Private Reply

#55: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#50)

I disagree. What if God had a plan to redeem mankind and a certain group of people is so evil they would disrupt that plan and not let mankind be redeemed. Since God knows the future he would know.

Any person who believes they have the divine right to inflict horrific suffering upon ANYONE, or even upon other creatures such as animals, fish, birds, etc. is not only consumed by evil, they are insane.

God could strike people dead with a natural disaster or divine intervention, he wouldn't order his "people" to commit horrifically evil deeds.

Evil begets evil.

Someone once wrote, "You will know them by their fruits".

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:54 Reply Private Reply

#56: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#53)

So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:46:04 Reply Private Reply

#57: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#55)

God could

You're not God.

Destroying evil isn't evil.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:48:30 Reply Private Reply

#58: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#57)

Destroying evil isn't evil.

Committing evil is.

And we are ALL children of God, even you Stone..

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:49:43 Reply Private Reply

#59: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#56)

So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?

No.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:09 Reply Private Reply

#60: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#59)

No.

Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:54 Reply Private Reply

#61: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#58)

And we are ALL children of God

Let me correct you again.

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:51:21 Reply Private Reply

#62: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#61)

Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:52:49 Reply Private Reply

#63: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#60)

The_Rock No. Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?

Because I believe in self defense.

You see they had a thing called a cease fire. Hamas broke it and now they are reaping what they sowed.

The Muslims regularly bomb Israel. Israel has a duty to protect their people. They don't have a duty to protect a people who are attacking them. Comprende?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:53:05 Reply Private Reply

#64: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#62)

Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.

You are a simple man. You are using your imagination to project what you think. You are not God.

If you want to know learn Gods word which is only found in the Bible.

It is impossible to please God without faith.

You can do it. Just pray sincerely for guidance.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:30 Reply Private Reply

#65: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#61)

Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:53 Reply Private Reply

#66: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#65)

Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.

Yeah people can say that. Doesn't make it true.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:55:54 Reply Private Reply

#67: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#65)

On a side note. I like George Orwell. But he looks kind of stupid. You having that picture there makes it like it is you and looks kind of stupid.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:57:25 Reply Private Reply

#68: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#64)

You are a simple man.

You obviously aren't a very self aware person and can't see the irony in what you wrote.

You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.

You're free to believe as you wish, but when your beliefs guide you to justify genocide, you should probably reexamine those beliefs.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:58:23 Reply Private Reply

#69: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

justify genocide

What is going on in Gaza isn't genocide.

If Israel wanted to they could kill them all. They aren't. They are pretty restrained.

Now on the other hand if Hamas could kill all the Jews. They definitely would.

If you don't agree with that you aren't an honest person. Or at the least if poorly informed.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:00:31 Reply Private Reply

#70: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.

Pretty funny that the words of this "Middle Eastern Tribe" is affecting the whole world and is the topic of conversation worldwide for thousands of years. That Jesus is the most influential "person" to ever walk the earth. Why is that?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:02:10 Reply Private Reply

#71: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#68)

You know what. Despite our disagreements and insults at each other. I like you. You are someone you can have a conversation with.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:03:19 Reply Private Reply

#72: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#66)

Yeah people can say that. Doesn't make it true.

You never answered my question as to whether or not you've heard of the Kabbalah.

It's actually the third book of the Jewish faith, largely passed down orally but in recent years some of it published in various forms.

Where the Torah is said to be the foundation of the faith, and the Talmud the book of "learned men", the Kabbalah is what constitutes spiritual knowledge, most likely VERY ancient.

Some have twisted it and used it for ill intent, which might be why there is so much evil in this world today.

BUT, if you were to look into historical writings of the Essenes, you might understand a bit of what I'm talking about.

Essenes were similar to Buddhists in that they view ALL life as precious and avoid eating any meat.

They were well versed in the Kabbalah.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:07:56 Reply Private Reply

#73: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#69)

What is going on in Gaza isn't genocide.
If Israel wanted to they could kill them all. They aren't. They are pretty restrained.

At least 30 thousand killed so far, many more severely injured, most of whom are innocent women and children.

Hospitals destroyed, medical staff tortured and killed, water supplies destroyed and food sources eliminated.

What do you call it if you don't call it genocide? Netenheyu himself referred to Palestinians as "Amalek", and so have you.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:11:35 Reply Private Reply

#74: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#72)

Kabbalah

I had never heard of it.

I googled it the other day.

I told you I didn't care about it because it wasn't part of the Bible

It seems to be some type of mysticism. Which I associate with the Occult.

So that is where I am at.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:15:02 Reply Private Reply

#75: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#73)

At least 30 thousand killed so far, many more severely injured, most of whom are innocent women and children.
Hospitals destroyed, medical staff tortured and killed, water supplies destroyed and food sources eliminated.
What do you call it if you don't call it genocide? Netenheyu himself referred to Palestinians as "Amalek", and so have you.

We don't know the number. War is full of liars on both sides. Propaganda.

We don't know who most is honestly.

Is a hospital a hospital when it is being used for military purposes. I say no.

You can't just fire from a hospital and store military stuff there and expect the people you attack almost every day for years and years to ignore that target. So that is a big yawn in my view. Hamas's fault.

Tortured. I call bullshit.

I saw Israel bringing in food and water aid. Who brings their enemy food and water in a war. Did the japs bring us good in WWII? Did the Germans bring us water in WWII. Why do you expect a people who are targets for extermination by various muslim nations to provide their enemies with supplies.

No mercy for Hamas or their supporters seems justified in my view.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:19:15 Reply Private Reply

#76: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#70)

God never walked anywhere. Jesus, if he existed, was simply a man. The Essenes view him as a divine prophet, as do other religions which are derived from Abrahamic scriptures.

There are those who have used religion as their hold on power. The Romans controlled the ancient world, and created the Roman Catholic church and its Pope when their power began to wane.

The Roman Catholic Church controlled the empires of old Europe, deciding who would be king of those many different lands.

Judaism spread as well, mostly in secret.

But religion has always been used as the ultimate weapon across history.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:21:09 Reply Private Reply

#77: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#76)

But religion has always been used as the ultimate weapon across history.

If you gave up some of your bitterness you would be better off.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:24:33 Reply Private Reply

#78: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#75)

Is a hospital a hospital when it is being used for military purposes. I say no.

It's a hospital if it's used to treat the sick and injured, and has medical staff there doing what they can to save human life.

It's dubious at best that there were actually any military personnel there using them as a human shield. but whether or not there were is irrelevant.

A well trained and equipped special force could get in and neutralize any combatants. Instead those hospitals were bombed indiscriminately, medical staff murdered, taken prisoner and tortured.

That is what makes it intentional genocide.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:26:15 Reply Private Reply

#79: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#77)

If you gave up some of your bitterness you would be better off.

Not only does history speak loudly, so does the present.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:26:55 Reply Private Reply

#80: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#75)

I saw Israel bringing in food and water aid

It's well documented that Israel fired upon aid workers delivering food to starving civilians, and fired upon those civilians as well.

There is nothing righteous in what Israel has done.

IF they sent in special forces to target the actual combatants, that'd be self defense and they'd have that right to do so.

Indiscriminately killing a civilian population isn't self defense, it's a war crime.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:30:57 Reply Private Reply

#81: ghostrider To: The_Rock, watchman (#43)

To: watchman #1. To: The_Rock (#0) The Jews flood Europe with "migrants" then whine when it comes back to haunt them.
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
There is your post. You said they whine about getting beat with sticks.
You hate Jews like Hitler did. Your posts prove it.

Your reading comprehension is severely lacking.

ghostrider posted on 2024-05-09 20:33:44 Reply Private Reply

#82: watchman To: ghostrider (#81)

I pity him.

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 20:44:16 Reply Private Reply

#83: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#74)

I told you I didn't care about it because it wasn't part of the Bible
It seems to be some type of mysticism. Which I associate with the Occult.

Part if it is called Gematria, which is a means to ecludiate hidden meanings from Hebrew words and writings. It is said that the Torah is written in such as way as it can be deciphered into hidden truths. That's what is said at least.

You'd have to go speak with a rabbi to get a better explanation, myself I have not explored it much.

And yes, there are Occult societies which know about it in depth. Freemasons for instance.

Occult simply means that which is hidden.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 21:30:13 Reply Private Reply

#84: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#83)

Occult means satanic.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 21:48:42 Reply Private Reply

#85: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#80)

It's well documented that Israel fired upon aid workers delivering food to starving civilians, and fired upon those civilians as well.

You are quoting propaganda. Show me the video. You can't fool.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 21:50:09 Reply Private Reply

#86: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#84)

Occult means satanic.

Uh, no.

From occult (Merriam Webster dictionary)

occult 1 of 3 verb oc·cult
occulted; occulting; occults
Synonyms of occult
transitive verb : to shut off from view or exposure : cover, eclipse the light of a star that was about to be occulted … by Uranus itself— Jonathan Eberhart
occulter noun
occult 2 of 3 adjective oc·cult 1 : not revealed : secret deep subterranean occult jealousy— J. C. Powys
2 : not easily apprehended or understood : abstruse, mysterious occult matters like nuclear physics, radiation effects and the designing of rockets— Robert Bendiner
3 : hidden from view : concealed occult underground passages 4 : of or relating to the occult … the occult arts—astrology, palmistry, card reading …— Amy Fine Collins occult practices 5 : not manifest or detectable by clinical methods alone occult carcinoma also : not present in macroscopic amounts occult blood in a stool
occultly adverb
occult 3 of 3 noun oc·cult : matters regarded as involving the action or influence of supernatural or supernormal powers or some secret knowledge of them —used with the

Now actual satanists might operate in occult ways, but they aren't the only ones.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 22:47:06 Reply Private Reply

#87: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#85)

You are quoting propaganda. Show me the video. You can't fool.

If you cared at all about the human misery your pals are inflicting you would have already seen it.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 22:51:21 Reply Private Reply

#88: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#85)

Your buddies have already declared Palestinian people "Amalek". They act accordingly.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 22:53:29 Reply Private Reply

#89: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#87)

There is no proof there. I scanned the video and didn't see any video of the incident.

Propaganda

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 22:56:55 Reply Private Reply

#90: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#89)

There is no proof there. I scanned the video and didn't see any video of the incident.

So all the people killed were simply faking their deaths, eh?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 22:58:29 Reply Private Reply

#91: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#89)

I haven't seen any evidence of what is claimed to have happened in Israel on October 7th. Probably all Israeli propaganda.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 22:59:36 Reply Private Reply

#92: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#89)

That blown up hospital must just be a fake prop, eh?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:00:50 Reply Private Reply

#93: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#90)

No. If I recall correctly there was some fire and Israel responded.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 23:02:31 Reply Private Reply

#94: The_Rock To: FormerLurker (#91)

I haven't seen any evidence of what is claimed to have happened in Israel on October 7th. Probably all Israeli propaganda.

Ok if you are going to be as stupid as sand nigger fake watchman than there is no reason to talk to you.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 23:03:18 Reply Private Reply

#95: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#93)

No. If I recall correctly there was some fire and Israel responded.

Prove it.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:03:19 Reply Private Reply

#96: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#94)

Ok if you are going to be as stupid as sand nigger

You aren't just a religious lunatic, you're a racist.

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:04:11 Reply Private Reply

#97: watchman To: FormerLurker (#91)

I haven't seen any evidence of what is claimed to have happened in Israel on October 7th. Probably all Israeli propaganda.

But, but, but...40 raped decapitated babies in ovens!

Got to be true. Israel wouldn't lie. Would they?

Jews in ovens...millions of them.

Hamas is holding the Israeli hostages in ovens as we speak!

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 23:05:35 Reply Private Reply

#98: FormerLurker To: The_Rock (#94)

Guess who is going to be in big doo doo when they meet their maker..

ROTFLOL!!

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:05:36 Reply Private Reply

#99: FormerLurker To: watchman (#97)

Hamas is holding the Israeli hostages in ovens as we speak!

With pop tarts just out of reach..

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:06:25 Reply Private Reply

#100: watchman To: FormerLurker (#99)

With pop tarts just out of reach..

Dear gawd...

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 23:07:11 Reply Private Reply

#101: FormerLurker To: watchman (#100)

Or a jar of gefilte fish?

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 23:14:25 Reply Private Reply

Source:	https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/jerusalem-protesters-block-trucks-carrying-aid-to-gaza/
Published:	May 6, 2024
Author:	Times of Israel
Post Date:	2024-05-06 21:42:20 by The_Rock
Views:	12500

No aid to Gaza until hostages are set free.