This is the comic book version of what really happened, as revealed by the clumsiest judge in England Anthony Hughes (titled Lord Hughes of Ombersley, lead image, right).
Even if all the evidence presented to Hughes and already endorsed by him is true on the record of six and half years of British Government investigations and twenty-one days of hearings with concealed witness faces, censored documents, missing CCTV there remains no direct evidence that the Russians attacked the Skripals by poisoning their front-door handle when they were inside their home, four hours before their collapse.
Instead, Hughes and his lawyers have directed the police and other witnesses to stretch their circumstantial evidence and dictated their inferences of Russian guilt. In New York, the legal textbook difference between direct and circumstantial evidence is this.
To stretch the circumstantial evidence and inferences beyond the criminal standard of reasonable doubt, Hughes has prevented direct evidence from being presented, stopping the Skripals from testifying themselves. Their Home Office lawyer purportedly representing the Skripals in the hearings has said nothing at all; Hughess lawyers have manipulated witnesses with leading questions; alternative explanations for the circumstantial evidence have been blocked by Hughes from the hospital doctors and independent experts. The way in which this has been done is comic book jurisprudence. The judges of the former British empire arent laughing; this is how they say the means and opportunity of a capital crime must be prosecuted, then judged.
#1: Pinguinite To: Horse (#0)
#1) Using a military chem weapon on UK soil would be an act of war.
#2) Skripal was a spy captured in Russia that was traded straight up for captured spies in the west. To then attack the spy in this way would send a signal to the world that Russia does not honor their spy trades, which damages potential for future spy trade deals.
#3) The international fallout & condemnation against Russia was all to predictable and would damage Russia in other ways such as with sanctions and diplomatic expulsions which is exactly what happened. At the time it happened, worldwide condemnation against Assad for alleged chem weapon use there (very possibly all fake accusations) was very well known and Russia was already fighting that diplomatic storm. Would they then decide to use chem weapons in the UK complicating that effort even more?
Applying some more intelligent detective sleuthing to the incident, we should ask who would benefit from such an event and had the means, motive & opportunity to do so. That Russia in no way benefited eliminates them as a probable suspect and instead presents a possibility Russia was framed. Who would frame Russia? What was Russia doing at the time?
The sophistication of obtaining the Russian chem weapon material basically points to a state actor. It is unlikely this would be done by any rogue terror group, and terror groups generally don't care too much about international relations.
At the time, Russia was intervening in Syria's civil war on the side of Assad, bombing ISIS positions with enough effectiveness to allow Syrian loyalists to retake Syrian territory from ISIS. So who would be upset about that? There are 3 countries. The USA, Saudi Arabia & Israel. All 3 of these entities wanted Assad removed from power.
Would the USA release a chem weapon in the UK? I say unlikely as the 2 are allies and the danger of discovery too high. I can't see Saudi Arabia stooping to that level either. They are really not that sophisticated. Israel, however, would not have any real reservation about that, having no real love for the UK (or anyone else for that matter). We now know Israel's Mossad has the sophistication to plant bombs in commercial pagers. We know they have conducted assassinations, at least with Iranian scientists and against Arafat.
So I say Israel is the prime suspect in the Skripal poisonings. Means, motive & opportunity are all present to frame Russia, and Scotland Yard was all to eager to point the blame at Russia within 24 hours in true Barney Fife fashion.
Pinguinite posted on 2024-11-22 10:46:51 Reply Private Reply
#2: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#1)
Yes of course Israel. They do all the bad stuff.
I bet Israel also goes to Russia and throws Putins enemies out of windows in tall buildings.
Israel probably blew up that pipeline.
Israel probably tricked Russia into selling us Alaska.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 18:21:36 Reply Private Reply
#3: Esso To: The_Rock (#2)
Prez HomoPedo went on TeeVee and said he was going to do it. Case closed. It was actually the homosexual Antony Blinken behind that along with AIPAC because GayZ is a compromised joo.
Like the CIA's never done anything like that. Ever heard of JFK? Or my handler Pam?
Why don't you go to your homeland and fight for it? I'll pay for a one way ticket and $2,000 travel expenses.
Just go.
Esso posted on 2024-11-22 19:28:55 Reply Private Reply
#4: The_Rock To: Esso (#3)
She said you were from Lebanon.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 19:35:54 Reply Private Reply
#5: Esso To: The_Rock, all (#4)
I would never talk to you. I'd have you committed. Don't you ever try to put words in my mouth again. I'll run you through my lawyers wringer like I did my ex asshole.
Dr. Kimberly MD
Esso posted on 2024-11-22 19:50:56 Reply Private Reply
#6: The_Rock To: Esso (#5)
I know not in front of Esso anyway.
I wont tell on you.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 20:20:42 Reply Private Reply
#7: Pinguinite To: The_Rock (#2)
Israel did assassinate an Iranian nuke scientist and they sent their agent into Iran by forging an Irish passport. Israel poisoned Arafat. Israel planted bombs in pagers and walkie talkies. Israel hired Pollard to spy on the USA, and then with zero apologies for hiring the guy to commit a serious crime against the USA, lobbied for his early release and rewarded him with citizenship.
All of these things are what we know. They are factual and undisputed. and there is zero doubt they have done far more than what we know about. So why is it such as stretch to say Israel poisoned the Skripals?
It's far less a stretch to suspect Israel than Russia. Who would you list as a suspect? Who else had a motive to frame Russia?
Pinguinite posted on 2024-11-22 20:21:39 Reply Private Reply
#8: Esso To: The_Rock, 4um (#4)
No, I was born in Fort Wayne at Parkview Hospital (Randialia) a mile and a quarter from where I live now. I'll almost die within sight of where I was born.
Don't talk bad about Kimmy, that'll really piss me off.
Esso posted on 2024-11-22 20:25:24 Reply Private Reply
#9: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#4)
- Dakmar reflecting on the wisdom and legal tactics of Dr Hunter S Thompson
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 21:05:29 Reply Private Reply
#10: Dakmar To: Esso, The_Rock (#8)
Laminated!
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 21:07:11 Reply Private Reply
#11: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
Being Gods chosen doesn't mean they never do anything wrong. You used to say you were a Christian. Didn't you read the Bible to see that they did many things wrong?
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:12:25 Reply Private Reply
#12: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
That is good for world peace.
Iran said they want to eliminate Israel.
So that was self defense. Iran can't be trusted with Nukes they are kooks who put bags on their women's heads. If the women take their bag off their head they are murdered. Kook nation deserves to be destroyed. To love Iran is to hate women.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:14:08 Reply Private Reply
#13: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
Bullshit. But who would care anyway he was a terrorist piece of shit. Good riddance.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:14:48 Reply Private Reply
#14: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
Good take out those terrorist scum bags who murder and rape and f goats.
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The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:20:20 Reply Private Reply
#15: watchman To: The_Rock (#11)
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 21:20:23 Reply Private Reply
#16: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
Everyone spies on everyone.
Do you condemn Russia for spying on us? Or just Israel?
I'm sure we spy on Israel too.
They could have kept him locked up and I would have been fine with that.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:22:17 Reply Private Reply
#17: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
They are not undisputed. Arafat for example.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:22:59 Reply Private Reply
#18: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
For sure.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:23:27 Reply Private Reply
#19: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#7)
I don't know. Probably Russia but not for sure. Maybe Syria.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:24:19 Reply Private Reply
#20: The_Rock To: watchman (#15)
I'm definitely saved. It is not of works lest anyone should boast.
You on the other hand added words to the book of revelation. According to Revelation if you add to that book you are going to hell.
Those are undisputed facts.
You are are an idiot. Edom was destroyed centuries ago. The few survivors are mixed with many peoples blood. Jesus doesn't judge people by their race. Every race has people who are saved.
You are a racist. You said your wife said you stink. So you are a stinky racist.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:28:14 Reply Private Reply
#21: The_Rock To: Dakmar (#10)
I have no doubt you are an American. Even a patriotic one even if we disagree and you insult me at times.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:30:10 Reply Private Reply
#22: watchman To: The_Rock (#20)
If you are born again tell everyone how and when your salvation took place.
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 21:31:24 Reply Private Reply
#23: The_Rock To: Esso (#8)
I didn't talk bad about Kimmy.
So don't be mad.
To be honest I think there is no such thing as Kimmy and you make up a lot of stuff to keep yourself amused. Just like you have multiple screen names.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:33:01 Reply Private Reply
#24: The_Rock To: watchman (#22)
I don't answer to you. But I was saved since I was a kid.
I don't get everything right, I do things wrong, But I am saved by grace.
I don't believe you are not saved if I disagree with you on Edom. That isn't the basis of being saved. Jesus never said if you don't hold watchman's view on Edom you are not saved. That is not the way it works.
But truthfully there is scripture about adding to the book of revelation. Which you in fact did do.
Hopefully you can repent of it and be saved. Maybe that isn't possible. I'm not sure.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:36:14 Reply Private Reply
#25: watchman To: The_Rock (#24)
Adding a note in parenthesis is not "adding to the book of revelation".
People do it all the time in the margins of their Bible.
You're just looking for any flimsy diversion to avoid the issue at hand.
As for your salvation, no. You're kidding yourself...with eternal consequences.
I see no evidence of rebirth and renewal. Zero fruit.
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 21:48:19 Reply Private Reply
#26: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#21)
I am not the one who hurls childish insults, but I do try to provide a snappy comeback. I think, can you forgive me for that?
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 21:53:04 Reply Private Reply
#27: The_Rock To: watchman (#25)
Lets see. You put something there that wasn't there in the first place. Yep that's adding. That is the definition of adding. You added a note that changes and adds to the meaning.
Yeah people add stuff like that all the time. Disobedient to Gods word.
You aren't my judge. So the opinion of someone who adds to the book of revelation doesn't mean squat.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:53:21 Reply Private Reply
#28: The_Rock To: Dakmar (#26)
Sometimes you say something first, it isn't always a come back. I'm ok with that. I dish it out and I can take it too. You are alright in my book.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 21:55:25 Reply Private Reply
#29: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#28)
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 21:58:22 Reply Private Reply
#30: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#28)
Not so much even the deep state, but social media, advertising, cookie tracking etc
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 22:00:02 Reply Private Reply
#31: The_Rock To: Dakmar (#29)
I'm thinking about it.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:02:32 Reply Private Reply
#32: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#31)
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 22:06:29 Reply Private Reply
#33: watchman To: The_Rock (#27)
You are questioning the Christianity of others.
You are speaking blasphemy, that God has granted a questionable people the divine right to kill men, women, and children.
You are blasphemous and a false teacher. From Proverbs 6...
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 22:07:38 Reply Private Reply
#34: The_Rock To: watchman (#33)
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:09:48 Reply Private Reply
#35: watchman To: The_Rock (#34)
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 22:11:18 Reply Private Reply
#36: The_Rock To: watchman (#35)
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:12:09 Reply Private Reply
#37: watchman To: The_Rock (#36)
My words are not so much to you, but to others who may think poorly about Christ because of you.
watchman posted on 2024-11-22 22:16:38 Reply Private Reply
#38: The_Rock To: watchman (#37)
Or when you say I'm not a Christian.
I was careful to not say you weren't saved. I just posted what the book of revelation said and what you did. And noted that that was a problem.
I said people who add to the book of revelation go to hell.
You seem to have done that. I said I hope you repent. If that is possible.
It seems to me you added to the book of revelation. I could be wrong. But it looks like you did to me.
You don't have to answer to me.
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:22:03 Reply Private Reply
#39: Pinguinite To: The_Rock (#16)
Russia is not advertised as an ally of the USA. Israel is. In spades.
Pinguinite posted on 2024-11-22 22:23:32 Reply Private Reply
#40: The_Rock To: watchman (#37)
But you did say.
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The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:23:57 Reply Private Reply
#41: Pinguinite To: The_Rock (#19)
So you suggest Syria would frame it's #1 ally while it was saving Syria's butt from ISIS?
Okeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy.
Pinguinite posted on 2024-11-22 22:25:52 Reply Private Reply
#42: The_Rock To: Pinguinite (#41)
:)
The_Rock posted on 2024-11-22 22:30:45 Reply Private Reply
#43: Pinguinite To: The_Rock (#12)
Whether it was self defense or not is immaterial. The point it is was an assassination and a crime, and Israel did conduct it, proving that Israel has the mentality for committing such murders. Ergo, we can conclude that Israel can be considered a more credible suspect in the Skripal poisoning than they otherwise would be.
Pinguinite posted on 2024-11-22 22:44:29 Reply Private Reply
#44: Dakmar To: The_Rock (#42)
That doesn't even make sense, the only proper nouns you posted were Russia and Syria. Please explain.
Dakmar posted on 2024-11-22 22:49:08 Reply Private Reply