what is the verse for that belief.

Find it yourself.

Things are either objectively true or they are not.

What is truth, Dakkie :)

Many years ago it was my work to guard the flock.

I kept watch for wolves in sheep's clothing...ravening wolves.

I can spot you from a mile away...wolf boy.

If your posting here is any indication of your "guarding the Flock" or your "watchman" ability. It is sorely lacking.

You cannot even spot a rapist when it is staring you in the face as in the rapists in Hamas you support doing it on TV.. So again go F yourself you lying sack of excrement.

Find it yourself.

You never provide scripture for your fables, so why would you provide it here. It's not like you're a watchman or anything. Maybe you are good at keeping a lookout for cops as Hamas is raping someone.

What is truth, Dakkie :)

Not what you post. You have no or very little truth to offer. "watchman" lol.

You never provide scripture for your fables,

I put the verses right in front of you.

You look right past them.

You do not have the Holy Spirit to enable your understanding.

You're lost...

You have no or very little truth to offer.

Maybe the problem is you.

Maybe you're just a poopy head.

A lot of guys ask themselves, "What's wrong with me?"..."Why do people hate me?"..."Why can't I understand simple things in life?"

It's because they're poopy heads...and didn't know it.

Maybe that's your problem...you're just a poopy head.

Most of the world is against Israel. Last I read wide is the way that leads to hell.

Maybe we should define our terms; we should remember the name Israel STARTED with Jesus. It's one of His many names. It was the preincarnate Jesus who wrestled with Jacob, and who changed Jacob's name to Israel.

"Jesus The True Israel

Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son.

[Matthew 2:13-15

13And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

14When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/2.htm ]

...Matthew tells us that Jesus fulfills Hosea 11 (Matt. 2:13–15). He is the true Israel, the faithful Israel who succeeds where old covenant Israel failed. Like ancient Israel, He came up out of Egypt, passed through the waters, and was tested in the wilderness (2:13–15; 3:13–4:11; see Ex. 12:40–42; 14:1–31; 16:4). Unlike old covenant Israel, however, Jesus passed the test..."

learn.ligonier.org/devotionals/jesus-true-israel

The Old Covenant was done away, as prophesied by Jeremiah. We're under the New Covenant now.

Jeremiah 31:31-34

Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. / It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt—a covenant they broke, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. / “But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. ...

Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

biblehub.com/hebrews/8-13.htm

All the promises were made ultimately to Christ:

biblehub.com/galatians/3-16.htm

...and to His seed (Believers/Christians):

biblehub.com/isaiah/53-10.htm / biblehub.com/galatians/3-29.htm

See The Church is Israel Now:

revealinglifetruth.org/up..._church_is_israel_now.pdf

What is truth, Dakkie :)

As a sovereign entity, truth will have to be whatever I decide is true. Which has nothing to do with what you believe is true. Reasonable people understand that threshold, we just don't appreciate being taxed to genocide enemies of Zion. That's where I am on your side in this debate

Earlier: Things are either objectively true or they are not.

Now: truth will have to be whatever I decide is true.

That just sounds so...subjective.

“Rank Strangers to Me,” Great old song btw. I'm surprised you know that song. It comes from the Stamps-Baxter song book used by some folks who were already really old when I was a kid.

That just sounds so...subjective.

I am trapped in a world of subjectivity, I have to listen to my inner demons. Umm, angels I meant, not demons. I hate those fuckers! :)

“Rank Strangers to Me,” Great old song btw. I'm surprised you know that song. It comes from the Stamps-Baxter song book used by some folks who were already really old when I was a kid.

I get all frisky about finding semi-forgotten folk songs, the more grissly the better.

I have to listen to my inner demons.

Shut them demons out with some gospel songs by the Bishops...

Shut them demons out with some gospel songs by

a) a Carol Kaye bass run
b) a scholarship to Columbia University
c) A guaranteed job at a new meat packing facility.

Why did your God make snakes? :)

Why did your God make snakes? :)

I'm still wonderin' why He made skunks...

I'm going to have some words with God about that when I see Him.

SKUNKS

A skunk is a reminder for all humans to remain humble. No matter what atoms we crack or feats we achieve , nothing clears out a confined space faster than a skunk.

nothing clears out a confined space faster than a skunk.

Sustained skunkification might even rid Dakmar of his neighbors.

A skunk is a reminder for all humans to remain humble.

I've never encountered one, except far off in a field or something. But yes, that stench did remind me we are living in a BioWorld. On a lesser note, I've learned to napkin stink bugs and release them outdoors rather than smashing them with hammer in bathtub. Saves on damaged tile replacement costs, too.

Sustained skunkification might even rid Dakmar of his neighbors.

Wishful thinking. Has anyone ever civilized Mexicans? I'm not up to it either.

He caused us to speak differently, act differently, look differently, and most importantly, to live in different lands, for a good reason.

God is the ultimate segregationist.

He caused us to speak differently, act differently, look differently, and most importantly, to live in different lands, for a good reason.

Don't think I am ignorant of the Tower of Babel story, I get it. Yet The Jews insist on mongrelizing competitors. I get it, but am pissy about why people who should know better just give in and accept their termination.

why people who should know better just give in and accept their termination.

People are ignorant, rebellious, self-centered...you name it.

Makes for hellish living.

The Jews insist on mongrelizing competitors

Satan uses the Jews to destroy God's creation

Makes for hellish living.

Looks like I picked a bad week to stop abusing shrooms.....

Satan uses the Jews to destroy God's creation

I disagree. Jews use guilt to screw over otherwise normal people.

Satan uses the Jews to destroy God's creation

Says the Hamas Asswiper who adds to the book of Revelation and says he will tell God what to do.

People are ignorant, rebellious, self-centered...you name it.

Watchman the POS!

The Bible says if you add to the book of Revelation you will have your name blotted out of the book of life. Well "watchman" posted what he said was the book of Revelation and added the word "edom" to it to try and fool people of what it said.

Anyone who proclaims Jews are evil, or whites are evil, or Italians are evil or Africans are evil is a liar. There are good and bad people from all races.

He is a liar and a deceiver.

He says i'm not a Christian because I don't agree with him that Jews are the scum of the earth.

He tells a lot of lies and when called out pretends that he didn't add to Revelation and stuff like that.

I disagree with you on the origins of life and God. I don't attack you because you just give your opinion and don't lie that I know of. So we just disagree.

I win, I have alienated everyone who could have saved me!

Why would a Christian care for a loser who says Hams never raped any Jews on October 7. He is an idiot liar.

Call me..can we discuss this? :)

Call me

I don't do calls.

Anyone who proclaims Jews are evil, or whites are evil, or Italians are evil or Africans are evil is a liar.

Some Germans are evil...I know I am :)

I don't do calls.

You are scared..of me...admit it! :) I'll slit youtr fucchinhg throat and sing about it Led Zeppelin...

Jews use guilt to screw over otherwise normal people.

Jews use _______ to screw over otherwise normal people.

Guilt

White phosphorus

Usury

Poisonous vaccines

Deception

Opium

Slave trading

Dishonest scales

Dumb Christians

(Fill in the blank)

hate

Hate is like cancer...

I got no time for hate.

: Dakmar hate Hate is like cancer...

I got no time for hate.

The other day you said you hate the Jews.

You said God hated them so that was good enough for you.

You are a liar like Satan who you seem to emulate.

You said God hated them so that was good enough for you.

God hates them...that's good enough for me.

watchman posted on 2024-12-18

Post 25 above you said it. So again you are a liar.

"watchman" posted what he said was the book of Revelation and added the word "edom" to it to try and fool people of what it said.

The_Rock, could you please pinpoint where watchman said that?

watchman, I think I have a very definitive piece on Edom. Do you know what I am talking about and have you shared it? I have had it for a couple of years, and finally started reading it some months back. I did not finish it, but I think I read at least 70 pages, and admired the way it put so many pieces I knew about together in such a coherent manner. In one little blurb, it opened my eyes to the Ashkenazi link to the Edomites (a good tribe of Dan link I HAD and lost, but do have some vague links, including the NAME links in Ukraine, the old seat of the Khazars/Ashkenazis). I may have seen that little tidbit before (and I just saw it recently in another article from another website), but it hit me between the eyes when I saw it at that online book about Edom.

It also explains why groups like the ADL promote hatred and laws against whites and Christians...two quotes I was well aware of are included. It asks the question, Wouldn't you promote laws against "anti-semitism" if (you believed) your race was going to be exterminated in the end according to the Bible? Shoot, it made me feel sorry for them. Yes, God has terrible things to say about Edom, in one place saying He would destroy them all, but, but, BUT, in another, saying there would be a remnant:

King James Bible

Amos 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.

Context

The Restoration of Israel

Amos 9:11“In that day I will restore the fallen tent of David. I will repair its gaps, restore its ruins, and rebuild it as in the days of old, 12that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations that bear My name,” declares the LORD, who will do this. 13“Behold, the days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when the plowman will overtake the reaper and the treader of grapes, the sower of seed. The mountains will drip with sweet wine, with which all the hills will flow.…
Berean Standard Bible

biblehub.com/amos/9-12.htm

"...Berean Study Bible

that they may possess

The phrase "that they may possess" in Amos 9:12 speaks to the divine intention and promise of inheritance. The Hebrew root word here is "yarash," which means to inherit, possess, or take possession. This concept of possession is deeply rooted in the covenantal promises God made to Israel, where land and blessing were central themes. Historically, the idea of possession was not merely about ownership but about stewardship under God's sovereignty. It reflects a future hope where God's people will reclaim what was lost or promised, emphasizing God's faithfulness to His covenant.

the remnant of Edom

"Edom" refers to the descendants of Esau, Jacob's brother, and historically, Edom was often in conflict with Israel. The mention of "the remnant of Edom" signifies a shift from enmity to inclusion. The Hebrew word for remnant, "she'erit," implies a surviving group that remains after judgment or calamity. This phrase prophetically points to a time when even those traditionally seen as enemies will be part of God's redemptive plan. It underscores the expansive nature of God's kingdom, where former adversaries are brought into the fold, highlighting the transformative power of God's grace.

and all the nations

The inclusion of "all the nations" broadens the scope of God's promise beyond Israel and Edom to encompass the entire world. The Hebrew term "goyim" is used here, which typically refers to non-Israelite peoples or Gentiles. This phrase anticipates the New Testament revelation of the Gospel reaching all nations, as seen in the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19). It reflects God's universal plan for salvation and the breaking down of ethnic and cultural barriers, emphasizing the inclusivity of God's love and the fulfillment of His promise to Abraham that all nations would be blessed through his seed (Genesis 12:3). [[[GOOD POINT!!!!!!! - ABRAHAM'S SEED BEING CHRIST!!!! ISAIAH 53:10/GALATIANS 3:16...29]]]

called by My name

The phrase "called by My name" indicates a special relationship and identity bestowed by God. In Hebrew, the word "qara" means to call, proclaim, or name. Being called by God's name signifies ownership, protection, and a covenantal relationship. It implies that those who were once far off are now identified with God Himself, bearing His name and reflecting His character. This is a profound statement of belonging and transformation, where God's people are marked by His name, signifying their inclusion in His family and His divine purpose. [[[I will have more to say about this]]]

declares the LORD

The phrase "declares the LORD" is a powerful affirmation of divine authority and certainty. The Hebrew word "ne'um" is often used in prophetic literature to introduce a solemn pronouncement from God. It underscores the reliability and unchangeable nature of God's word. When the LORD declares something, it is as good as done, for His word does not return void (Isaiah 55:11). This phrase assures the reader of the certainty of God's promises and His sovereign control over history, providing comfort and hope to those who trust in Him.

who will do this

The concluding phrase "who will do this" emphasizes God's active role in bringing His promises to fruition. The Hebrew verb "asah" means to do, make, or accomplish. It highlights God's omnipotence and His commitment to fulfill His word. This assurance that God Himself will accomplish what He has declared is a source of hope and encouragement. It reminds believers that God's plans are not dependent on human effort but on His divine power and faithfulness, reinforcing the trustworthiness of His promises and the certainty of His redemptive plan.

Pulpit Commentary

Verse 12. - That they (the true children of Israel) [[[CHRISTians - SEE MY PREVIOUS POST ON JESUS AS TRUE ISRAEL]]] may possess the remnant of Edom; i.e. those who were nearest in blood, and yet most hostile of all men. David had subdued the Edomites (2 Samuel 8:14; 1 Kings 11:16), and Amaziah had inflicted a great slaughter upon them (2 Kings 14:7); but later they recovered their independence (2 Kings 16:6, where "Edomites" should be read for "Syrians;" 2 Chronicles 28:17), and were actively hostile against the Jews. It was on this account that they were emphatically denounced by Obadiah. "The remnant" is mentioned because, according to the threat in Amos 1:11, 12, they would be punished so that only a few would escape. The Septuagint gives ,ὍÀÉ ἐº¶·ÄήÃÉù½ ¿ἱ º±Äά»¿¹À¿¹ Äὼ½ ἀ½¸ÁώÀɽ, [Äὸ½ ºύÁ¹¿½, Alexandrian], "That the remnant of men may earnestly seek the Lord," regarding Edom as a representative of aliens from God, and altering the text to make the sense more generally intelligible, This version, which reads "Adam," men, instead of "Edom," is endorsed by St. James. Which are called by my Name; "over whom my Name hath been called" (Septuagint). This is closer to the Hebrew; but the meaning is much the same, viz. all those who are dedicated to God and belong to him being by faith incorporated into the true Israel. (For the phrase, comp. 2 Samuel 12:28; Isaiah 4:1; and to illustrate the idea, refer to Deuteronomy 28:10; Isaiah 44:5; Psalm 87:5, 6.) The Messianic kingdom shall be established in order that salvation may be extended to all hastens who embrace it. Saith the Lord; is the saying of Jehovah. This is added to show the immutability of the promise. The covenant God himself hath predicted it.

Parallel Commentaries ..."

biblehub.com/amos/9-12.htm

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another thought before i forget it...

It also explains why groups like the ADL promote hatred and laws against whites and Christians...two quotes I was well aware of are included. It asks the question, Wouldn't you promote laws against "anti-semitism" if (you believed) your race was going to be exterminated in the end according to the Bible? Shoot, it made me feel sorry for them....

the remnant of Edom

"Edom" refers to the descendants of Esau, Jacob's brother, and historically, Edom was often in conflict with Israel. The mention of "the remnant of Edom" signifies a shift from enmity to inclusion. The Hebrew word for remnant, "she'erit," implies a surviving group that remains after judgment or calamity. This phrase prophetically points to a time when even those traditionally seen as enemies will be part of God's redemptive plan. It underscores the expansive nature of God's kingdom, where former adversaries are brought into the fold, highlighting the transformative power of God's grace.

reminded me of this verse...let me look it up if i can...before my computer crashes again...here ya go...

Bible Hub

https://biblehub.com › romans › 10-3.htm

Romans 10:3 Because they were ignorant of God's righteousness and ... Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. New Living Translation For they don't understand God's way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God's way, they cling to their own way of getting right with ....

BibleRef.com

https://www.bibleref.com › Romans › 10 › Romans-10-3.html

What does Romans 10:3 mean? - BibleRef.com

Paul calls them ignorant of the righteousness of God. He may mean that they do not understand that God requires absolutely perfect righteousness in order for anyone to be received by Him on their own merits. They do not understand that no human being is able to achieve that level of righteousness (Romans 3:23).

Bible Hub

https://biblehub.com › commentaries › romans › 10-3.htm

Romans 10:3 Commentaries: For not knowing about God's righteousness and ...
For they being ignorant - The ignorance of the Jews was voluntarily, and therefore criminal. The apostle does not affirm that they could not have known what the plan of God was; for he says Romans 10:18-21 that they had full opportunity of knowing. An attentive study of their own Scriptures would have led them to the true knowledge of the Messiah and his righteousness; see John 5:39; compare ...

Bible Gateway

https://www.biblegateway.com › verse › en › Romans 10:3

Romans 10:3 - Bible Gateway

For they, being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. ASV For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the ...

start here:

The Word Brings Salvation

…2For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. 3Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4For Christ is the end of the law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.…

Berean Standard Bible...

https://biblehub.com/romans/10-3.htm

have more i want to say in a bit...

Amos 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I need to process this a little.

The_Rock, could you please pinpoint where watchman said that?

watchman, I think I have a very definitive piece on Edom.

Rocky hates when I identify the Jews as Edomites. His fantasy world revolves around the Jews being descendants of Jacob.

Here are the true Israelites.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥.

5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 7:4-8

I'm not sure how this works. Evidently, God knows precisely who the true descendants of Jacob are and where they are located...hidden from our view at the moment.

This list in Rev.7 has nothing whatsoever to do with the squatters over in the Holy Land who are killing and stealing falsely in the Name of God.