That's called pan theology.

But if God created Everything, wouldn't Everything equal God?

I meant to say "pantheism" rather than pan theology.

Pantheism is the philosophical and religious belief that reality, the universe, and nature are identical to divinity or a supreme entity, The physical universe is thus understood as an immanent deity, still expanding and creating, which has existed since the beginning of time. --wiki

Pantheism is the basic belief behind the bb theory...that matter, space, energy, even life itself...is God...and has created itself.

Pantheists worship the planets and stars, the earth, animals, other human beings...it's quite common.

The Bible said it would happen...

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙙 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙚𝙧𝙫𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝘾𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙤𝙧...Romans1.25 (bold italics mine)

And we are certainly not God.

We are all PART of that which is God.

God was perfectly right and just to command the destruction of Amalek...men women, children, livestock, the very memory of them.

Here is where I can't take people such as yourself seriously.

The murder of innocent men, women, and children, theft of their possessions, destruction of their livestock, is EVIL and it is WRONG.

It's like something Charles Manson would approve of.

Only EVIL minds and hearts would order or condone such a thing, certainly NOT the Creator of all that exists, nor those who sincerely value life and goodness in the world.

It's akin to what modern day Jews use to justify their genocide against Palestinians.

In reality, the words of Samuel were most likely written after the fact, and were written to ease the guilt felt by the soldiers who carried out the rape, murder, and destruction of innocent people.

Pure EVIL feeds off of human horror, anguish, suffering, and pain. So if something told Samuel to "smite" anyone, it was likely PURE EVIL (Satan) who was hungry and needed to be fed.

Hearing voices in your head ordering you to kill people is usually considered insanity, not divine inspiration.

We are all PART of that which is God.

I was created by God, with a free will.

Once, I was apart from God and wanted nothing to do with Him.

Then, one day, I beheld His glory...and chose to be with Him now and in eternity.

Christ's death and shed blood made it possible that I, a sinful man, could be in the presence of a Holy God.

certainly NOT the Creator of all that exists,

You seem so 'certain' that you know the Creator.

Describe the Creator to me so that I can know the Creator too.

You seem so 'certain' that you know the Creator.

Describe the Creator to me so that I can know the Creator too.

I know what the Creator is NOT.

The Creator is not an impotent voice in the head of a primitive backwards People, who orders his "People" to commit mindless murder.

If anyone actually needed to be "smitten", it would not be at the hands of men, but by divine intervention such as earthquake, flood, lightning, disease, etc.

The killing of innocent men, women, children, including babies, unleashes unfathomable misery, horror, fright, and suffering. Such negative energies strengthen evil.

Additionally, COMMITTING murder corrupts the soul.

So in reality, the Jewish Rulers were evil men and wrote their texts to portray themselves as divinely inspired.

Amalek

The murder of innocent men, women, and children, theft of their possessions, destruction of their livestock, is EVIL and it is WRONG

Amalek means "those who lick blood"

They were utterly barbaric.

God, being omniscient, knew that their enfants would grow up to be utterly barbaric (otherwise God would have spared them).

Even the livestock needed to be destroyed because people were superstitious in those days and those who got the livestock of the Amalekites would have been tempted to carry on the traditions of the Amalekites.

Even so, because Amalek was spared, his descendants went on to become the Edomites. Today, the Rothschilds have taken the name of the Edomites.

You have boasted of your knowledge of ancient people, but I do not find much depth of your knowledge.

You still have not described what the Creator IS...

Amalek means "those who lick blood"

So said the Jews who murdered them.

All Palestinians are terrorists, isn't that right?

But yeah, I don't believe the tales told by barbaric murderers.

Much like those who perpetrated the medieval inquisitions, those who claim to be pious and holy are usually the complete opposite, and are in fact the very evil they claim to be against.

God is ALL that exists.

The winner always gets to write history..

Even in modern times the truth is often the opposite of what is told by the powerful.

God is ALL that exists.

You seem ambivalent or unable to talk about God, but you speak forcefully for God in what God is NOT...

You said this in post #29...

What that means is that God exists beyond our Universe, is in fact ALL Universes that have ever existed, exist today, and will ever exist.

What does this even mean? God is impersonal? Distant? Beyond our knowing? Does our Creator care about the creation, including us?

You know the Creator is not...

The Creator is not an impotent voice in the head of a primitive backwards People, who orders his "People" to commit mindless murder.

How do you know this? Maybe the Creator is in fact this, if we are all part of God, and that God is ALL that exists.

Just asking...

So said the Jews who murdered them.

Here you are mistaken.

The Israelites, not the Jews, attacked the Amalekites.

Huge difference.

How do you know this? Maybe the Creator is in fact this, if we are all part of God, and that God is ALL that exists.

God is actually not evil, so ok, evil is not part of God, but part of the Destructor, who also exists.

The Israelites, not the Jews, attacked the Amalekites.

The Israelites were not Muslim, Hindu, or anything other than Jewish.

The JEWS are those who follow the Jewish faith, which is also their perceived history.

So yes, they WERE Jews. Call them Hebrew, Israeli, Israelite, or Jew, they are all Jewish.

Was not Jesus named "King of the Jews"?

By the Roman Pontius Pilate...in mockery.

Jesus' proper title is "King of kings and Lord of Lords"..

And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. Revelation 19:16

By the Roman Pontius Pilate...in mockery.

Not only there, but by the wise men seeking out the location of his birth..

From Matthew 2:2

“Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.”

“Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.”

The true Israelite tribes morphed into "Jews" during and after the Babylonian captivity. (The Magi asked amiss imo).

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them. --Esther8.17

𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙗𝙚𝙘𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙅𝙚𝙬𝙨...imagine that, Babylonian people 'became' Jews.

Meanwhile, back in Israel Edomites (the descendants of Amalek, the people you love) 'became' "Jews".

If someone were of the tribes of Israel they identified as such: the apostle Paul made it known he was of the tribe of Benjamin. Matthew may have been of the tribe of Levi. Jesus was of the tribe of Judah (He was not a jew).

Jews were and are interlopers.

Hebrew is a language and a ethnicity.

Israelite is a nationality.

There is no religion called Hebrew or Israelite.

Meanwhile, back in Israel Edomites (the descendants of Amalek, the people you love) 'became' "Jews".

I neither love nor hate people because of labels assigned to them.

Are you one of those who hate all Palestinians and would slit the throat of a Palestinian baby because Netanyahu described that child as "Amelek"?

Sadistic murder is never condoned by God, no matter what the Jews say.

Just admit it...you didn't read my post #144

Apparently you're the one needing glasses, as I'm the one who wrote post #144..

I neither love nor hate people because of labels assigned to them.

Are you one of those who hate all Palestinians and would slit the throat of a Palestinian baby because Netanyahu described that child as "Amelek"?

Sadistic murder is never condoned by God, no matter what the Jews say.

Your posts are worse than Rocky's...

You just blurt out emotional nonsense.

And you still can't define what religion was practiced by the Israelites.

Your posts are worse than Rocky's...

I wouldn't doubt you and Stone are the same person.

So what religion was Jesus, and what religion is the Torah?

I give up...what is Jesus' religion?

I give up...what is Jesus' religion?

I really need to tell you? I thought you were a religious expert.

Look it up on the Internet if you need to..

Yes. The Bible is filled with examples of God's anger.

Which I say is evidence the Bible is not the WoG.

And what could ever possibly happen that God couldn't recover from? What could ever happen that God would need to recover from?

Question not understood.

When one is angry, one recovers from that emotional state. Anger is a state of weakness. At least that is what I argue. I expect you would agree that any person who suffers from overwhelming anger needs prayer. That on it's face is an admission that it is a state of weakness.

I say the concept of an angry or jealous God is inconsistent with the attributes you listed above.

His anger falls under the attribute of being just, requiring justice. And also love.

Being just does not require one be subject to anger.

Nope. The leaders didn't have to tell the people of God's anger...everyone felt it immediately and personally. God would flat out kill scores of people until they came back into line.

Or the leaders would point to an incident in which people died and claim it was because God was angry.

But didn't God say we are made in His image? You have emotions because God has emotions.

I maintain anger stems from weakness. And God is not weak.

Here is where I can't take people such as yourself seriously.

The murder of innocent men, women, and children, theft of their possessions, destruction of their livestock, is EVIL and it is WRONG.

It's like something Charles Manson would approve of.

. . .

Well said. It's where theology becomes less of a sound philosophy and more an art of making a square peg fit in a round hole.

Amalek means "those who lick blood"

They were utterly barbaric.

According to those who wrote the history books about them, which were their enemies.

The winner always gets to write history..

You beat me to it!

And God is not weak.

Does God have emotions?

According to those who wrote the history books about them, which were their enemies.

Well, then, are any history books trustworthy? How does one know?

Does God have emotions?

How do you define emotions? Emotions that are a result of the human mind functioning, no, God does not.

God is not human.

Does God have emotions? How do you define emotions? Emotions that are a result of the human mind functioning, no, God does not.

God is not human.

Humans have emotions, capable of love, hate, caring, anger, jealousy, etc.

Did God not create us...or did God give us something He does not have?

I believe God is a Person, perfect, in every way. Capable of love, anger, jealousy...but never allowing those emotions to become sinful.

You're saying God is not even capable of love?

, no, God does not.

God is not human.

God is not human and you are not God. So you couldn't know if God had emotions unless you read the Bible. Hypnotists who consult demons doesn't count.

Of course God has emotions. God loves us.

Your position is utterly ridiculous.

Humans have emotions, capable of love, hate, caring, anger, jealousy, etc.

Did God not create us...or did God give us something He does not have?

I believe God is a Person, perfect, in every way. Capable of love, anger, jealousy...but never allowing those emotions to become sinful.

You're saying God is not even capable of love?

Good points. You are making sense. I am going to do my best to respond to you in a different manner.

The BB denies that God has communicated to us, that He has told us clearly how He created the universe.

The BB may pay lip service to "God" but adamantly denies that He has intentionally instructed us on His method* of creation.

As to rejecting God, try being a Christian professor (or student) in a secular university. You'll find out immediately who is narrow minded and vindictive.

The so called big bang is the theory of ancient dumb people.

So Tucker's guest is correct...the Big Bang Theory is nonsense...foolishness.

Even more so for the Theory of Evolution.

More truth from you.

The spirit of antichrist is rampant.

Tell me, where in the bible does it explain nuclear physics?

lol. how cute.

so it doesn't mean the BB theory is rejecting God.

Yes it does.

You're the one that tried to compare the sculpture to the big bang.

And human beings and animals are much more complex than a statue. But you don't get it because you push your failed ideology.

but I trust the Biblical account... And what IS that account?

You are such a deep thinker. Not.

The account given in the Bible. Which is doubtful you even read.

What it comes down to bro is that the bible does NOT explain EXACTLY how anything was created.

The big bang is a theory that DOES fit into the biblical words of "let there be light".

HOW that light was created is still a mystery and up to debate.

No the Bible doesn't explain everything. It explains what God wanted us to know. IF WE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND BELIEVE IT. Which you haven't.

Your big bang theory doesn't fit into anything to do with the Bible. It doesn't even fit into anything scientific. It is a theory of ancient dumb people.

No how light was created isn't up for debate. You can bad mouth what God said and pretend you are a God. But the truth is the truth.

It could have been a divine event caused by the instant injection of mass that caused the creation of our universe. Some event outside of our universe that caused this universe to be created. In fact, I don't see how anyone believing in an ultimate supreme God could argue that our current universe contains God Himself. God MUST be beyond our universe.

Whatever that means. Who knows.