Any suggestion that the USA and NATO are "Helping" or have ever helped Ukraine needs to be shot down instantly. The West is USING Ukraine to try ot beat up America's favorite adversary. If we hadn't sponsored the 2014 coup, Crimea would still be part of Ukraine today, there'd have been no 8-year civil war. When Russian troops started building up 3.5 years ago, Ukraine could have nogociated the threat away, but the West pushed Ukraine with the slogan "Ukraine has a right to join NATO" and promised support. And now that Ukraine is losing so badly, it's suddenly "We're helping Ukraine" and Ukraine has to pay back all the money that was ever sent, or forfeit mining rights in the country.
Z could have argued that in this WH video but he didn't because he's already in too deep with this war. He should be realizing that the USA was never Ukraine's friend, though he personally is far wealthier for the exploitation so maybe he doesn't really care that much.
It'd be so much easier if the press would fess up and explain how the US and NATO engineered the 2014 coup, neo- nazis took control of the government, eastern republics declared independence, and Kiev has been shelling then ever since.
Then they wouldn't need to lie and lie and lie some more, portraying Putin as some power mad dictator, and effortlessly bring the war to an end.
However, I'd guess they're worried about law suits and criminal charges.
It'd be so much easier if the press would fess up and explain how the US and NATO engineered the 2014 coup, neo- nazis took control of the government, eastern republics declared independence, and Kiev has been shelling then ever since.
Yahoo won't let me post any Yahoo approved/posted articles that even hint at Nuland.
Or REPLY TO being the stumbling block to liberty in this case.
It'd be so much easier if the press would fess up and explain how the US and NATO engineered the 2014 coup, neo- nazis took control of the government, eastern republics declared independence, and Kiev has been shelling then ever since.
I can trace almost to the day that I decided left-wingers were fucked up in the head:
Ok, I'm shaky on even which decade, but the quote (or most likely paraphrase, reader beware, unreliable narrator) was from an NPR story about an aspiring playwright. Very much along the lines of
"I feel like like I could write a very good good play, if I were given the opportunity."
I hope I get feeling better before Kim gets here. My stomach started getting edgy about noon. I think it has something to do with that video of GayZ playing the piano with his dicq that you posted last night.
I went all out on the Fox News forum a few days ago, explained the coup, Svoboda, Right Sector, the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, Eastern Republics declaring independence in 2014, and that Kiev labeled them terrorists and have been shelling then up into 2022.
That and I recommended the Oliver Stone documentary, "Ukraine on Fire".
Anytime. I'm sick & tired of everybody blaming Putin for "invading Ukraine." He was stopping a joo-genocide of the ethnic Russians in eastern territories.
Never saw that video, thought it might have been AI generated at first up to the point they seemed ready to start trashing their instruments and spray blood on the stage..
😁😁😁
Till they started playing. Great song, never heard it.
Anytime. I'm sick & tired of everybody blaming Putin for "invading Ukraine." He was stopping a joo-genocide of the ethnic Russians in eastern territories.
That's my take on the whole clusterfuck, too. Tribe wants a retreat from hostility Tribe caused in Levant. Tribe expands, no resistance. It's like Ice Skating, or cake!
I can see why though they feel the need to do the smoke and mirrors, since they can't outright admit that they were tied into corruption, acts of war without congressional approval, and possibly treason.
Not to mention the civil liability and ensuing chaos.
#1: Pinguinite To: Horse (#0)
Z could have argued that in this WH video but he didn't because he's already in too deep with this war. He should be realizing that the USA was never Ukraine's friend, though he personally is far wealthier for the exploitation so maybe he doesn't really care that much.
Pinguinite posted on 2025-03-01 10:32:36 Reply Private Reply
#2: FormerLurker To: Pinguinite (#1)
Then they wouldn't need to lie and lie and lie some more, portraying Putin as some power mad dictator, and effortlessly bring the war to an end.
However, I'd guess they're worried about law suits and criminal charges.
What a can of worms.
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 14:23:14 Reply Private Reply
#3: Dakmar To: FormerLurker (#2)
Yahoo won't let me post any Yahoo approved/posted articles that even hint at Nuland.
Or REPLY TO being the stumbling block to liberty in this case.
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 15:09:13 Reply Private Reply
#4: Esso To: FormerLurker, 4um (#2)
RFK Jr does a fantastic job in breaking down the Ukraine conflict. Have a listen @RobertKennedyJr
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 15:11:01 Reply Private Reply
#5: Dakmar To: Esso (#4)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 15:17:20 Reply Private Reply
#6: Esso To: Dakmar (#5)
Turn the sound on.
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 15:37:25 Reply Private Reply
#7: Dakmar To: Esso (#4)
Ok, I'm shaky on even which decade, but the quote (or most likely paraphrase, reader beware, unreliable narrator) was from an NPR story about an aspiring playwright. Very much along the lines of
"I feel like like I could write a very good good play, if I were given the opportunity."
My first question was, "who is stopping you?"
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 15:40:58 Reply Private Reply
#8: Dakmar To: Esso (#6)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 15:45:46 Reply Private Reply
#9: Dakmar To: Esso (#6)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 15:50:27 Reply Private Reply
#10: Dakmar To: Esso (#6)
Vera, what has become of you?
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 16:11:07 Reply Private Reply
#11: Esso To: Dakmar (#10)
I hope I get feeling better before Kim gets here. My stomach started getting edgy about noon. I think it has something to do with that video of GayZ playing the piano with his dicq that you posted last night.
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 16:28:32 Reply Private Reply
#12: Dakmar To: Esso (#11)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 16:36:33 Reply Private Reply
#13: FormerLurker To: Dakmar (#3)
That and I recommended the Oliver Stone documentary, "Ukraine on Fire".
Comment posted and I collected Likes.
Hopefully it's educated someone.
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 19:35:40 Reply Private Reply
#14: Dakmar To: FormerLurker (#13)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 19:40:01 Reply Private Reply
#15: Dakmar To: FormerLurker (#13)
and maybe somebody's daughter? :)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 19:47:46 Reply Private Reply
#16: FormerLurker To: Esso (#4)
His father and uncle would be proud of him.
Thanks for the link bro 👊
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 19:50:09 Reply Private Reply
#17: Esso To: FormerLurker, 4um (#16)
Anytime. I'm sick & tired of everybody blaming Putin for "invading Ukraine." He was stopping a joo-genocide of the ethnic Russians in eastern territories.
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 19:59:29 Reply Private Reply
#18: FormerLurker To: Dakmar (#15)
Never saw that video, thought it might have been AI generated at first up to the point they seemed ready to start trashing their instruments and spray blood on the stage..
😁😁😁
Till they started playing. Great song, never heard it.
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 20:00:45 Reply Private Reply
#19: Dakmar To: Esso (#17)
That's my take on the whole clusterfuck, too. Tribe wants a retreat from hostility Tribe caused in Levant. Tribe expands, no resistance. It's like Ice Skating, or cake!
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 20:05:41 Reply Private Reply
#20: Dakmar To: FormerLurker (#18)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 20:07:10 Reply Private Reply
#21: FormerLurker To: Esso (#17)
Same here.
I can see why though they feel the need to do the smoke and mirrors, since they can't outright admit that they were tied into corruption, acts of war without congressional approval, and possibly treason.
Not to mention the civil liability and ensuing chaos.
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 20:08:41 Reply Private Reply
#22: Esso To: Dakmar (#19)
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 20:11:26 Reply Private Reply
#23: Dakmar To: Esso, FormerLurker (#22)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 20:22:15 Reply Private Reply
#24: ghostrider To: Dakmar (#5)
ghostrider posted on 2025-03-01 20:47:18 Reply Private Reply
#25: FormerLurker To: Pinguinite, Dakmar, Esso (#1)
That and/or the UK sent MI6.
They don't like to be humiliated.
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 20:57:50 Reply Private Reply
#26: Dakmar To: ghostrider (#24)
Dare I put my Quacky Duck Traffic Opera on hold?
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 21:01:40 Reply Private Reply
#27: ghostrider To: Dakmar (#26)
ghostrider posted on 2025-03-01 21:09:49 Reply Private Reply
#28: FormerLurker To: All (#13)
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 21:45:55 Reply Private Reply
#29: Esso To: FormerLurker, 4um (#28)
That was tragic. I liked Gonzalo.
Esso posted on 2025-03-01 21:58:48 Reply Private Reply
#30: FormerLurker To: Esso (#29)
Now just need the media to cover it without bias...
FormerLurker posted on 2025-03-01 22:29:19 Reply Private Reply
#31: Dakmar To: FormerLurker (#30)
Dakmar posted on 2025-03-01 22:52:43 Reply Private Reply
#32: BTP Holdings To: Esso (#29)
No freedom of the press in Ukraine, just like Russia. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2025-03-02 19:37:07 Reply Private Reply