"Ms. Caproni returned to the U.S. Attorney's Office in 1992. She served as Chief of Special Prosecutions and Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section before becoming Chief of the Criminal Division in 1994. As Chief of the Criminal Division she supervised approximately 100 Assistant U.S. Attorneys. Ms. Caproni remained Chief of the Criminal Division until she departed in 1998"

How The Rule Of Law Was Subverted - The D.A. Massacre

Clinton preserved US Attorney Robert Mueller (went to Northern California) and Chertoff in his adminstration. Muller wrote the new Brady rules that were used by US prosecutors Donna Bucella, Beth Wilkinson etc to exclude exculpatory evidence details of USG foreknowledge of the OKC bombing that would have been allowed under the older Brady rules, Bucella was under Reno and Caproni and headed the US attorney team in the OKC bombing trials. Bucella was later removed from the 11the Circuit court of appeals for Fed grant jury misconduct (like what grand juror Hoppi Heidelberg asserted in the OKC bomb Fed grand jury in 1995).

Defense attorney Stephen Jones attempt to get around Mueller's "new" Brady rules was Jones Writ of Mandamus filed in March 1996 that later was illegally rejected by a panel of the tenth circuit court of appeals judges. FOX News correspondet Rita Cosby helped Fox news coverup the details of this in my opinion-I know because I sent her a copy of the Writ marked up in April 1996 and talked with her about it.

As you know US Attorneys in prosecution teams work closely together, Such was the case in the OKC bombing trials where FBI agents Mark White and Floyd Zimms worked directly with the prosecutors in OKC AND DENVER to coverup FBI misconduct.

I have written several articles on all of this-misconduct of Fed prosecutors/FBI agents in OKC case.

Muller wrote the new Brady rules that were used by US prosecutors Donna Bucella, Beth Wilkinson etc to exclude exculpatory evidence details of USG foreknowledge of the OKC bombing that would have been allowed under the older Brady rules

FBI Director Nominee Mueller Helped FBI and DOJ Cover Up Evidence on Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC Bombing

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b67a9bb55e2.htmSource: OKCSubmariner Personal Research

Published: August 1, 2001 Author: Patrick B. Briley This article presents, analyzes and adds important new information about a recent letter to the editor of the Washington Times concerning the nominee for FBI Director, Robert Mueller. The letter was published on page A-11 of the Times on July 28, 2001 and was written by Patrick Downes of Boston. His letter was entitled “FBI Appointment Needs More Investigation”. While Downes letter is to the editor, it provides valuable information about Mueller’s previous role in DOJ collusion to help facilitate FBI and DOJ corruption in mishandling evidence in important cases.

The text of the letter is first reproduced and then my new information and analysis follows after the letter text. Downes’ letter and my information and analysis provide important insights into the story behind Mueller’s and Attorney General Ashcroft’s handling of the corruption at DOJ and FBI concerning Waco, Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing.

TEXT OF DOWNES’ LETTER:

President Bush’s nomination of Robert S. Mueller III to become the director of the FBI should have raised a few more eyebrows than it did.

Mr. Mueller’s record as a prosecutor should bring into question his ability and willingness to correct some of the long-standing problems facing the FBI. In particular, Mr. Mueller’s record as a prosecutor is not that of someone who has demanded that government be more open and accountable and that it practice fair disclosure of evidence weighed against defendants.

While serving in the northern district of California, Mr. Mueller instituted a policy known as a “Brady waiver” that institutes and protects the federal government from a defendant’s due-process guarantee as afforded by the U.S. Constitution.

The waiver requires defendants who plead guilty to a crime to forgo a defendant’s constitutional right to present evidence of their evidence at a later date. Furthermore, the waiver would be enforceable even if it were established that the government withheld evidence in its possession before, during or after a trial that indicated a defendant is innocent of the charges brought against him or her.

At WACO, RUBY RIDGE and most recently during the trial of OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBER, Timothy McVeigh, the FBI failed to properly disclose all of the evidence in a timely and credible manner. The FBI’s credibility as it relates to the fair and proper disclosure of evidence against criminal defendants is in ruins.

Given that Mr. Mueller instituted a policy that effectively shields the government from accepting responsibility for withholding and concealing evidence, its questionable whether he is the right person to become director at this critical juncture in the FBI’s history.

MY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS

Even while US Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the OKC bombing, Waco and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past. He changed the Brady rules of evidence in concert with the US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson in the McVeigh and Nichols case who had assumed a position in the same department at DOJ that Mueller had worked earlier.

Mueller was brought into DC to head the transition team for Ashcroft and Mueller proceeded to steer Ashcroft through the cover-ups by FBI and DOJ on the OKC bombing case. Mueller did such a superb job that Ashcroft personally nominated Mueller to Bush for FBI director to help perpetuate the FBI and DOJ cover-ups of Waco, Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing.

For some of the details of the FBI and DOJ cover-up of the OKC bombing please read my article Ashcroft Relies On Evidence Obstructed by the FBI and US Prosecutors In OKC Bombing Case which was posted on the FreeRepublic.com on May 29, 2001.

The FBI and DOJ colluded to lie before the court during the trials, to falsify FBI 302 reports, to withhold 302 reports, to falsely rewrite 302 reports, to deliberately not write 302 reports, to doctor and withhold key surveillance tape evidence, and to threaten key John Doe and foreknowledge witnesses including law enforcement and military personnel in OKC.

Mueller was also involved in covering up the Noriega, BCCI and BNL scandals of Bush Senior. Mueller worked with Wilkinson on the Noriega case. Mueller also worked closely at several points with Larry Potts, the former Deputy Director of the FBI, who was kicked out of the FBI for lying about the FBI having Vickie Weaver murdered.

The head of the OKC FBI office, Marquise worked directly with Mueller on the Pan Am 103 bombing and Marquise is to be given the AG Distinguished service award by Ashcroft. Marquise verbally attacked four FBI agents who were on 60 minutes II last month describing the FBI cover-up in the OKC bombing.

If Ashcroft continues to allow himself to be led around by the nose by FBI and DOJ holdovers from the previous administration, such as Robert Mueller, then Ashcroft himself will be rendered useless and will himself become part of the corruption problem plaguing the DOJ and FBI.

It has been six weeks since Ashcroft was hand delivered a letter written by OKC bombing witness Gloria Smith describing three John Does in the case that the FBI deliberately covered-up. Ashcroft has failed to take action to have these John Does adequately investigated, apprehended or questioned and he has not had anyone contact Gloria Smith.

The story of the John Does and Gloria Smith’s letter to Ashcroft was reported in my article OKC Bombing Witness Requests Ashcroft Action On Three John Does which was posted on the FreeRepublic.com on June 14, 2001.

If Ahscroft is relying on DOJ personnel such as Sean Connelly or Beth Wilkinson and especially FBI Director designee Robert Mueller and others involved in the FBI cover-up, then it is doubtful that Ashcroft, the FBI or the DOJ will do anything adequate about Gloria Smith’s John Does or will really investigate the FBI and DOJ cover-ups in the OKC bombing.

Senators Hatch and Leahy have gushed over Mueller in confirmation hearings and recently said that Congress will not need to continue close oversight of the FBI once Mueller is in charge for a while. This is an absolute abdication of the Senate’s role to continue indefinitely overseeing the FBI and is a blank check that should never be given to the FBI and particularly to “Mr. evidence cover-up artist” Robert Mueller.

Even former FBI agent Gary Aldrich who wrote “Unlimited Access” just advocated in his newsletter ( from the Patrick Henry Center) giving Robert Mueller “a blank check” (these are Aldrich’s exact words) to run and cleanup the FBI. Aldrich is like the Senators who really do not want to oversee the FBI, they just want to create the allusion that the FBI can run itself without oversight once a few cosmetic changes are made. They like Mueller so far are still perpetuating the FBI status quo of corrupt policies that endanger the American people and threaten their freedoms and lives.

Bucella was under Reno and Caproni and headed the US attorney team in the OKC bombing trials. Bucella was later removed from the 11th Circuit court of appeals for Fed grant jury misconduct (like what grand juror Hoppi Heidelberg asserted in the OKC bomb Fed grand jury in 1995).

As you know US Attorneys in prosecution teams work closely together, Such was the case in the OKC bombing trials where FBI agents Mark White and Floyd Zimms worked directly with the prosecutors in OKC AND DENVER to coverup FBI misconduct.

Bucella, Heidelberg, White and Zimms are discussed at length in my article (find bolded in body of article): Ashcroft Relies On Evidence Obstructed by the FBI and US Prosecutors In OKC Bombing Case

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b13e42a4d03.htm

Source: OKCSubmariner Personal Research

Published: may 29, 2001 Author: Patrick B. Briley

Posted on 05/29/2001 11:02:18 PDT by OKCSubmariner

In his May 24, 2001 news conference Attorney General John Ashcroft made the following statements (taken from a transcript of his remarks published by the Daily Oklahoman):

“Today, the Department of Justice completed a report that has been submitted to me, documenting the FBI's comprehensive efforts over the last 13 days to identify any remaining documents. The report explains the content and the nature of newly produced documents and outlines the efforts the department has made to allow McVeigh's attorneys a fair opportunity to review this material. “

"Let me summarize this report's findings. No document creates any doubt of McVeigh's guilt, let alone establishes his innocence, which is the legal standard an appeal must overcome. Most of the documents could not have qualified as evidence. Finally, the quantity of the documents is minuscule compared to the number of documents already provided to McVeigh's lawyers. "

The report that Ashcroft referred to can also be found on the Daily Oklahoman’s website at www.Oklahoman.com.cgi-bin/show_article?ID+691144&TP=blank and is entitled “Report to the US AG Regarding Post-Trial Production of FBI Documents” and is dated May 24, 2001. The report was prepared under the direction of Sean Connelly, who is identified on the report as the “Special Attorney to the Attorney General” along with the names of other US Attorneys such as Joseph Hartzler. Connelly and Hartzler were US Prosecutors at the McVeigh and Nichols trials.

It is apparent that even now Ashcroft is wrongly relying too much on the very same US Attorneys that along with the FBI engaged in criminal obstruction of justice that included withholding and falsification of evidence from the court and trials and threatening of John Doe witnesses. The author of Ashcroft’s report, Sean Connelly is the man who refused for several years to accept the evidence and sworn affidavits of former KFORTV reporter Jayna Davis for 21 witnesses that saw McVeigh with Middle Eastern looking John Does.

And now we know that a few days before his news conference an attempt had been made to offer Ashcroft evidence gathered by Jayna Davis. The offer was rejected even though the offer is alleged to have come through David Schippers, a former US Attorney, a Washington DC heavy hitter and the former legal counsel to the House Managers for the Impeachment proceedings against Clinton. Davis mentioned her hopes to spark a DOJ investigation with the help of “a well-known former federal prosecutor” in an interview with WorldNetDaily’s Paul Sperry on May 25, 2001 entitled “Bin-Laden-McVeigh Link”. Another one of the US prosecutors for the OKC bombing case that worked closely with Connelly was Patrick Ryan. Ryan now says that he would have conducted himself differently in the trials had he known about withheld FBI lead sheets that supported the testimony of defense witness Morris John Kuper of OKC who saw McVeigh with a John Doe around 8 am on April 19, 1995. Ryan’s admission came within a New York Times article by Jo Thomas dated May 26, 2001 entitled “Document Erases Doubts About a McVeigh Witness “

The problem with Ryan’s statement now is that it was not just the FBI who was withholding evidence, it was the prosecutors who were also suppressing evidence. Ryan himself refused to accept major evidence from OKC police officer Don Browning during two pretrial interviews with Browning pertaining to Middle Eastern suspects and remnants of explosive devices found in the Murrah building.

An examination of the relationship between the US prosecutors and the FBI described at the Nichols appeals hearing on July 7, 1999 shows that the FBI and US Prosecutors deliberately worked together and also separately to illegally suppress evidence at the trials pertaining to John Does with McVeigh, some who may have been Federal informants, agents and Middle Eastern men.

In the appeals hearing in 1999, Tigar presented evidence that the FBI and US prosecutors falsified FBI 302 reports and deliberately did not create 302 reports in many cases as well as withheld the reports from the court and the defense. Many of these 302s pertained to John Does in the case. Tigar also complained he was not given many FBI lead sheets used to generate 302 reports.

By comparing the lead sheets he was given, Tigar further complained that some 302’s had not been generated that should have been, that some 302s that had been generated had never been given to him, and that some 302 were so inconsistent with the lead sheets that it appeared they could have been falsified. Judge Matsch ruled that the Tigar arguments would not have changed the outcome of the case.

As of the writing of this article, Tigar has publicly complained on KOCOTV in OKC and before the US Supreme Court that he still has not received all the FBI lead sheets and 302 interview reports he has asked for and is entitled to in the case.

Two men were mentioned in the Nichols appeals hearing as mishandling the FBI 302 interview reports and lead sheets. One was FBI agent Mark White who was an FBI document supervisor working under and closely with the FBI OKC Bomb Task Force head, Danny Defenbaugh, who knew about the missing and then recently found FBI reports on two Arab suspects arrested in the OKC bombing case, reports that had been withheld from defense attorneys. The other man was the US prosecutor Sean Connelly who had refused to receive much of the evidence from a former KFORTV reporter on the possible Middle Eastern connection. And Connelly is the man who later prepared the May 24, 2001 report that appears to downplay what happened to the “missing” FBI documents and perhaps misinforms Attorney General Ashcroft.

Mark White was a supervisor for FBI agent Carlyle. Carlyle generated hundreds of 302s in the case and is strongly believed to have falsified his interview report with deputy sheriff Dave Kochendoerfer over government foreknowledge of an Islamic terrorist assisted attack when Kochendoerfer refused to be intimidated by Carlyle into changing his story. Carlyle also falsely accused investigator Pat Briley of impersonating the FBI in an attempt to intimidate Briley and his wife from going public about what they had learned about FBI foreknowledge in the OKC bombing case.

Another man not directly mentioned, but who had a role in the mishandling of the 302s was FBI agent Floyd Zimms, who was the liaison between the US Prosecutors and the FBI for handling witnesses and 302s. It appears that Zimms and FBI agent Odom tried to keep witnesses from being presented such as Debbie Burdick that was interviewed by KTOK radio in OKC. Zimms is also believed to have lied to OKC police officers and to have falsified the 302s he generated.

On the Fox News O’Reilly Factor for May 14, 2001, Bill O’Reilly stated that the FBI had told him they had refused to accept evidence of Middle Eastern John Does from former KFORTV reporter Jayna Davis because the evidence would have gone to the defense and that is not what the FBI wanted, namely the FBI would have had to create 302 reports which the FBI did not want the defense attorneys to receive.

The FBI claimed they could not authenticate the KFORTV evidence, but that is hard for them to do since they did not receive it in the first place until February 1999. But US Attorney and prosecutor Sean Connelly had also refused to receive the evidence from Jayna Davis attorney Tim McCoy by telling McCoy the prosecution did not want to complicate the case and help the defense. The Connelly refusal was revealed at a March Oklahoma state pretrial hearing for Nichols in OKC.

For Patrick Ryan and the lead prosecutors like Sean Connelly to suggest to the press and in their report to AG Ashcroft that they did not illegally suppress evidence but that the FBI did is false. Both the FBI and the US Prosecutors illegally suppressed evidence and each knew the other was suppressing the evidence and they were helping each other to do it.

FBI agent Dan Vogel finally met with and received evidence from Jayna Davis and her attorney Dan Nelson in OKC in February 1999. At the request of Jayna Davis I contacted the Senate Intelligence Committee and told them the FBI and US Prosecutors had refused to accept the the Davus evidence of 21 sworn affidavits both before and during the trials. The Senate Intelligence contacted Davis as a result of my calls and instructed Davis to arrange the appointment with the FBI in OKC. The Senate Inteeligence Committee told me that that they would require the FBI to receive the evidence. This led to the meeting between Davis, Vogel and Nelson in February 1999. Transfer of most her evidence to Vogel and the FBI was finalized in March 1999.

Now retired, OKC FBI agents Dan Vogel,Rich Ojeda and Jim Volz have just told CBS "60 Minutes" that there were serious problems of FBI collected evidence not being turned over to attorneys in the OKC bombing case which may amount to what Vogel questions a possible criminal "obstruction of justice". Their story will air tonight, May 29, 2001, on "60 Minutes-II". A summary of their interview can be found at the CBS website under the story "Former Agents Hit FBI On McVeigh".

According to the NY Times article by Jo Thomas the Nichols defense attorney Michael Tigar said he knew of two instances in which prosecutors like Patrick Ryan tried to impeach the credibility of defense witnesses with assertions that were contradicted by newly disclosed FBI documents. One of these witnesses was Kuper but the other witness has not yet been publicly identified.

Ashcroft and the prosecutors in their report to Ashcroft have tried to lead the American people to believe that nothing significant was contained in the FBI documents that were found and recently turned over to the defense attorneys for McVeigh and Nichols. But we already know that the lead sheet for witness Kuper was extremely important and would by Patrick Ryan’s own admission affected his handling of witness Kuper. And it is likely that the other witness Tigar referred to would also have been treated differently. The jurors also probably would have believed the testimony of the two witnesses had it not been for the withheld FBI documents.

But there is even much more known about the FBI documents that were found to show that Ashcroft and the prosecutors are extremely wrong in their assessments. The LA Times reported on May 14, 2001 in an article by Richard Serrano “More McVeigh Files Found” that the FBI documents contained surveillance photos and tapes and information about the FBI’s lead John Doe suspect Robert Jacques who may have been a government informant.

And a May 17, 2001 article entitled “Dallas FBI files believed to detail 2 arrests” by Jack Douglas of the Ft. Worth Star Telegram reveals that more FBI documents describing the arrest of two Arab suspects in the OKC bombing were found in the Dallas FBI office of the former OKC Bomb Inspector Danny Defenbaugh. These Arab suspects were the subject of an OKC police manhunt and were improperly released in part because of deliberately false information given out by FBI agent Floyd Zimms.

The recent revelations that the FBI just found over 4000 pages of FBI interviews concerning John Does is not a surprise. Instead of being lost, they may have been withheld by the FBI and US prosecutors to protect the USG from liability over the bombing. But even if they were lost, many other important 302s were deliberately withheld, not generated and/or falsified as indicated in the July 1999 appeals transcript and based on my personal research. Stephen Jones the former McVeigh defense attorney also provides many good examples in his book “Others Unknown” where the FBI deliberately rewrote 302 interview reports to try to recreate history not to correct the reports but rather to remove or hide or confuse evidence that weakened the government’s case that the original 302s showed.

The FBI did not show key John Doe witnesses in OKC photos or try to have them do sketches with the FBI sketch artist. And these witnesses were not asked to sign witness statements. The sketch artist Jean Boylan wrote in her book that the FBI command center agent Danny Coulson told her not to make a key sketch of John Doe #2 because he did not want to hurt the prosecution’s case. In these instances accurate 302s may have not been prepared if ever.

Many witnesses were threatened by the FBI for the sightings of John Does with McVeigh in OKC. These witnesses include Dr Paul Heath and Army recruiters in the Murrah Building. There are serious doubts that 302s were ever written up for the court and defense with these threatened witnesses and if they were, it is likely they were falsified as they were in many other cases.

Were any of these John Does also Federal informants in a failed sting operation? If they were, the FBI and US prosecutors know their case would be thrown out (new trial) and they would be in big trouble with the American people for letting things go too far and get out of control that led to 168 deaths.

Surveillance tapes confiscated by the FBI that could show John Does in and outside of the Murrah building were asked for and agreed to be produced at a Nov 13, 1996 pretrial hearing with Stephen Jones and they may have never been produced completely, but withheld by the US Prosecutors and the FBI. Defense Witness John Kuper testified that surveillance tapes from the public library and Southwestern Bell Telephone Company building should show McVeigh with the John Doe he saw at around 8 am on April 19, 1995 in OKC. The FBI and US prosecutors have never released these tapes to the defense attorneys or public.

There are also surveillance tapes from cameras at the Regency Towers and Journal Record buildings near the Murrah Building that have not been released. The Journal Record building tapes is believed to show the actual explosion(s). And there are tapes from cameras in tunnels connecting the Murrah building with the Federal Court house and businesses in OKC that have not been released. Witness Bruce Shaw reported that men wearing ATF jackets were seen running down the tunnels shortly before the Murrah building was bombed.

Also the FBI has refused to run fingerprint checks on fingerprints found in the room rented by McVeigh at the Dreamland motel in Kansas where a John Doe was seen by Jeff Davis and sketched by FBI artist Jean Boylan. The John Doe may have been FBI informant, McVeigh friend and resident of Elohim City, Peter Ward.

By withholding and suppressing evidence about John Does, the FBI and DOJ and US prosecutors may have exposed the public to future attacks by the John Does or by the groups they represent. And they have obstructed justice possibly to cover up a government failed sting operation that led to the deaths of 168 people.

Some of the committees of Congress who have oversight of the FBI and DOJ were informed of the FBI coverup by me and the former terrorism advisor Jesse Clear and yet nothing was done. Kolan Davis, the legal counsel for the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee for Administration of the Federal Courts was informed by Clear of the FBI cover-up on December 15, 1997. Joan Grimson, the legal counsel for the Senate Intelligence Committee was informed by Clear of the FBI cover up in April 1999. Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma was informed by me and Clear of FBI misconduct in 1997, 1998 and 1999 with no result.

These Congressional committee legal counsels, the US prosecutors, the former Attorney General, Janet Reno, the DOJ and the FBI have known about the allegations of cover-up and foreknowledge of the OKC bombing since at least before 1998 and likely before April 19, 1995. One should wonder if the current Attorney General Ashcroft and the House Judiciary Chairman, James Sensenbrenner will get at the bottom of the cover up of the OKC bombing during their investigations and prosecute those responsible even if they are US attorneys, FBI agents and officials in the FBI and the DOJ.

The remainder of this article is from three previous articles I posted under the same subject name on April 1, 2001, May 11, 2001 and again on May 19, 2001, entitled “Did the (FBI &) Federal Prosecutors Risk Overturning of McVeigh and Nichols Convictions?”

On page 241 of his book, “Others Unknown“, McVeigh defense attorney Stephen Jones wrote:

”According to some of our friends in media, the government’s lawyers were at each others throats …..Meanwhile, some FBI agents had had enough of being jerked around by the prosecutors….and were openly showing their disdain, and ATF people were just as openly enraged with the FBI, saying its theory of the case was all wrong. Finally, each of the leading government lawyers had begun leaking stories to favored media sources---stories that pointed the fingers at the others.”

The Jones description of the prosecution team and the interactions with the FBI and ATF may have well been an accurate assessment of the behavior of US prosecutors and FBI agents working for them. Jones gives numerous examples of questionable conduct by the US prosecutors throughout his book. Jones’ writings have now been bolstered by recently reported information about the woman who was in charge of the US Attorney prosecutors for the OKC bombing case.

US Attorney Donna Bucella announced her resignation under fire from the 11th US Circuit of Appeals on Friday, March 23, 2001 according to an article in the Naples Daily News “Central Florida’s top prosecutor quits under fire” on March 24, 2001. The article was written by Pat Leisner of the Associated Press.

Bucella headed the executive office in charge of all 94 US attorneys including the US prosecutors who handled the OKC bombing case. In fact Bucella was sent by Reno and the DOJ to OKC the day after the Murrah Building was bombed to “initiate the nationwide investigation” that was conducted by US attorneys and the FBI. She was an associate of Janet Reno from the Southern District of Florida. In 1993 she went to work at DOJ for Reno and was responsible for the training of US attorneys and how they are to conduct Federal grand juries.

On March 16, 2001 the 11th Circuit cited prosecutorial misconduct by US prosecuting attorneys under Bucella and overturned a conviction won earlier by the prosecuting attorneys. The court criticized Bucella’s Assistant US Attorney Rubinstein “ for reportedly lying to a grand jury, rushing the panel and pressuring it to ‘rubber stamp’ indictments.” In another case, the Naples Daily article reported that the Court also called into question the behavior of prosecutors under Bucella for their backing in court an investigation by detectives the Court said had been built “by lying, distortion and omitting facts.”

The recent findings and criticism against the US attorneys in Bucella’s Florida office by the 11th Circuit Court of appeals are remarkably similar to allegations that have been made against US Attorneys (prosecutors) handling the OKC bombing case for Bucella. And the findings against detectives in the Florida cases under Bucella are also very similar to allegations that have been made against FBI investigators working for the US Attorneys in the OKC case.

For the OKC bombing trials, serious allegations have been made that US prosecutors and the FBI agents working with them were guilty of “lying, distortion and omitting facts.” Nichols’ defense attorney Michael Tigar made strong assertions of deliberate hiding, distortion and omitting trial evidence of FBI 302 interview reports by FBI agents conspiring with US prosecutors. Tigar’s allegations were made at an appeals hearing with Federal Judge Matsch in July 1999. It was alleged that many of the accounts of John Does with McVeigh given by witnesses to the FBI were never adequately made available to the court at the trials by the US prosecutors or the FBI, in fact that they had been suppressed.

In fact two FBI agents working for the US prosecutors in Denver, Zimms and Odom, have been identified as suppressing witnesses and their testimony in the OKC bombing case.

Witness Debbie Burdick was called by Odom during the McVeigh trial and told not to talk to defense attorneys or news media even though she was never called to testify at the trial. Burdick saw McVeigh and Middle Eastern males in a brown Chevy truck ,McVeigh’s Mercury Marquis and a blue vehicle moments before the bombing. Burdick’s story of being called and suppressed by Odom was reported on KTOK radio in OKC by news director Jerry Bohnen.

A key witness of a Middle Eastern man seen with McVeigh was brow beaten at the OKC FBI office and when he would not change his story, informed journalists close to the case report that Zimms falsified the FBI 302 interview reports with the witness. These FBI 302 reports are used as evidence by US Attorneys in trials. FBI agent Zimms was a key liason between Federal prosecutors and the FBI in Denver starting in 1996 and throughout 1997. Zimms had previously worked closely with US Attorneys when he had worked for the FBI on mob cases in Chicago in the 1970’s.

Jones and Tigar complained bitterly about the US prosecutors and FBI agents working for them by accusing them of deliberately misspelling many names of key witnesses and suspects in indices and on important government documents during the exploratory phase of the case. The misspellings were done in contrived ways that Jones and Tigar claimed delayed the defense and in some cases kept important information from being found or known.

Was the Federal grand jury convened for the OKC bombing conducted in an illegal and improper way that resulted in “lying to a grand jury, rushing the panel and pressuring it to ‘rubber stamp’ indictments” as the 11th Circuit says was done by other US Attorneys also under Donna Bucella in Florida cases?

Federal Grand Juror Hoppi Heidelberg believed the answer is yes. Heidelberg complained of illegal conduct of US Attorneys during the Federal grand jury proceedings in OKC and was removed because of his complaints. Heidelberg claimed that he was not permitted to have the witnesses called he felt were important and that he was not properly permitted by the US Attorney prosecutors to ask questions of witnesses.

The day Heidelberg was removed, the lead US Attorney prosecutor Joseph Hartzler called Heidelberg and told him not to talk at all to a KFORTV reporter on the way to his house that had just spoken to Heidelberg on the phone a very few minutes earlier. There is considerable evidence which suggest that FBI agents deliberately conspired with FBI informant Larry Meyers to help the US prosecutors remove Heidelberg from the grand jury because of his complaints.

Jones writes on page 190 of his book that another US prosecutor, Larry Mackey , admitted deliberately lying to Jones and claiming that others in the prosecution team had made Mackey lie to Jones. It is suspected that Bucella could have had a hand in Mackey’s lying to Jones. Jones also writes on page 128 of his book that he believes Mackey went to the Philippines and deliberately blocked Jones efforts to obtain information about Nichols’ involvement with terrorists groups. Jones’s story about this was confirmed to me by the former Pentagon terrorism advisor. Jesse Clear, who assisted Jones at one time and had been working with Philippine contacts for Jones.

OKC Attorney Tim McCoy recently testified at a pretrial hearing for the state trial of Nichols that another US prosecutor, Sean Connelly, on the OKC case refused around the time of the McVeigh and Nichols trials to accept evidence that had been collected about Middle Eastern John Does assisting McVeigh.

McCoy testified that Connelly told him that Connelly did not want to accept the evidence because Connelly thought doing so would be harmful to the prosecution’s case. FBI agent Danny Coulson similarly stated to FBI sketch artist Jeanne Boylin that she should not do a certain sketch in the OKC case because doing so might harm the prosecution’s case and this was told to her in 1995 at a time when Bucella was closely involved with the US prosecutors and the FBI.

Jones complained bitterly about US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson on KTOK radio in November 1998 for withholding evidence from Jones about German national Andres Strassmeir’s involvement with McVeigh , the FBI and FBI director Louis Freeh.

Wilkinson visited General Benton Partin in June 1996 with the FBI’s OKC Bomb Task Force inspector Danny Defenbaugh to discuss Partin’s analysis of the cause of damage to the Murrah Building. During the interview with Wilkinson, which was taped by Partin, Defenbaugh pointed to the location of what had been publicly shown as the truck bomb crater and said words to the effect : Suppose I were to tell you that is not the location of the crater? Wilkinson tried to belittle and disparage Partin’s credentials during the interview, actions which were extremely insulting and suggested intimidation and Federal cover-up to discourage Partin should he have been called as a witness at the McVeigh or Nichols trials.

Another US Attorney on the prosecution team was Patrick Ryan. I believe Ryan was in a position to mislead, intimidate, or suppress a number of material witnesses in the case including former day care center director Danielle Hunt, Journal Record building employee Gary Lewis, the Murrah Building engineers Don Rogers and Randy Ledger as well as a member of the OKC police K9 unit Don Browning. Ryan fell out of a tree and broke his hip so he was assigned by the prosecution team to handle the victims who had also been witnesses during his hip recovery.

Browning has told me that Ryan interviewed him twice in OKC and told Browning he was not interested in much of the information that Browning knew including police dispatch instructions to Browning at 10:30 am on April 19, 1995 to go after two Iranians in blue jogging suits believed to have helped McVeigh do the OKC bombing.

Danielle Hunt told me that she believed Ryan dropped her from being a witness at the McVeigh trial when she started pointing out that 3-4 FBI agents normally dropped off children at the day care center and were in the Murrah Building by 9 am sharp on almost every day except the day of the bombing. Hunt was visited by McVeigh in December 1994 at the day care center and asked detailed question about security, fire escapes, elevators, etc.

Randy Ledger told me and Don Browning that he and Don Rogers were told to search the Murrah Building for explosive devices the evening of April 18, 1995. Ledger also told me that prosecutors and FBI agents had told him that his rescuer, OKC police officer, Terry Yeaky, should not be excused for committing suicide (he may have been murdered). Did this story about Yeakey come from Ryan? Ledger and Rogers were discouraged from talking at the trials and to the public. Did Ryan discourage them?

Gary Lewis saw McVeigh with a John Doe in the Mercury Marquis close to the Murrah Building moments before the explosion at the same time and place shown on FBI obtained surveillance tape photos as testified to by FBI agent John Hersley at the preliminary hearing on April 27, 1995. Lewis now has changed his story and does not want to talk to anyone after meeting further with the FBI and US prosecutors. Lewis’ original story was taped during a phone conversation with Glen Wilburn in 1995. I heard the tape.

I witnessed Ryan giving false statements to reporters at an Oklahoma Geophysical Society meeting in November 1995 about the Ryder truck bomb. Ryan told reporters that Dr. Ray Brown and Tom Holzer had concluded that only a truck bomb was recorded on a seismograph at the time of the explosion. Ryan made his false statement before the meeting had even started and later repeated his claim after the meeting when in fact Dr. Brown had stated in the meeting that demolition charges could have been used and that he believed there were two strong explosions with the second stronger than the first. I was at the meeting and Ryan tried to slander me there by angrily and very loudly and publicly accusing me of working for the defense team when I had asked Brown some questions designed to understand his analysis. I never worked for the defense team.

If US prosecutors Hartzler, Connelly, Ryan, Mackey and Wilkinson took and knowingly carried out unlawful orders from Donna Bucella to engage in unethical and illegal conduct before and during the grand jury and trials, they cannot plead the Nuremberg defense. The same goes for FBI agents Odom and Zimms who worked closely with the prosecutors. What is extremely troubling about the US Attorneys and prosecutors and FBI agents in this case, is that their alleged conduct could have become legal grounds for getting two convicted bombers off. They may have risked the overturning of the convictions of Nichols and McVeigh, who now has confessed.

...US prosecutors Donna Bucella, Beth Wilkinson etc to exclude exculpatory evidence details of USG foreknowledge of the OKC bombing ...

US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson covered up and lied in court about German national Andreas Strassmeir's involement with McVeigh, the CIA, FBI (Freeh) and State Department. Defesne Attorney Stephen Jones publically complained about this in an interview I heard on KTOK radio after Jones wrote his book, "Others Unknown".

Below is a report by Jim Rarey about Strassmeyer and Beth Wilkinson. Note details at end of Rarey's writings about Beth Wilkisn background and misconduct.

During Timothy McVeigh’s Denver trial, the immigration status of one Andreas Strassmeir became an issue. Strassmeir was a German citizen with counter intelligence experience in the German army who was active in the Elohim City compound of a white supremacist group outside of Oklahoma City. According to Carol Howe, a paid BATF informer, Strassmeir had been agitating for direct action against government buildings. Phone records showed that McVeigh had tried to contact Strassmeir at Elohim City a couple of weeks before the bombing.

After the bombing, the BATF notified the INS that it wanted to detain Strassmeir and he was put on the INS’s watch list. Also, the FBI and INS had scheduled a raid on Elohim City in February, two months before the bombing to apprehend Strassmeir for alleged weapons and immigration violations. The raid was abruptly canceled with no explanation to date. When Strassmeir turned up in Germany he was taken off the INS watch list.

The McVeigh’s defense team tried to introduce evidence of participation in the bombing conspiracy by Strassmeir and Dennis Mahon through the testimony of BATF informant Carol Howe. Special Prosecutor Beth Wilkinson flat out lied to Judge Richard Matsch. She told the judge that Strassmeir was "A mere wisp of the wind." She said Strassmeir’s only problem was that he might have overstayed his visa. She falsely stated that the letters "A" and "O" on Strassmeir’s immigration record stood for "admitted" and "overstayed" respectively. (See this author’s article "Levy/Condit Amazing Coincidences" for background on Wilkinson’s role in providing cover for intelligence agencies.)

Wilkinson also falsely told the judge that Carol Howe had been fired by the BATF as mentally unstable and untrustworthy. She falsified the date Howe left the service of the BATF.

Wilkinson’s lies were exposed during a trial of Carol Howe. The government had indicted her on weapons violation charges. Her BATF handler, Angela Finley had to admit that Howe was in possession of the weapons at the request of the BATF. She also confirmed that the BATF had given Howe a raise from $25 a day to $400 a day and sent her back into Elohim City for further undercover work after the date Wilkinson said she had been fired. Howe was easily acquitted.

The INS later corrected the record on Strassmeir’s immigration status showing that "A" stood for diplomatic passport and "O" for highly qualified. It was also discovered later that Strassmeir had applied for positions with the DEA and CIA.

Later, an appeals court judge gave only mild criticism to Judge Matsch for accepting the word of government prosecutors when contradicted by defense records. Matsch himself has an interesting background.

Judge Matsch was in military counter intelligence during the Korean "conflict." In 1987 he presided over the trial of four white supremacists who were convicted of assassinating radio talk show host Alan Berg. In 1992 his 24-year- old daughter, Betsy, died after accidentally falling into a steam vent at Hawaii Volcanoes National Park. He obviously had no stomach for further involvement with white supremacists as he granted the prosecution’s motions to suppress the evidence without hesitation.

There were other discrepancies between the representations made by prosecutors about INS records that were the opposite of the truth. Space does not permit listing them.

Beth Wilkinson

Beth Wilkinson attended Princeton University on a four year R.O.T.C. scholarship. She obtained a J.D. degree from the University of Virginia law school.

Captain Wilkinson served as assistant to the Army General Counsel for intelligence, special operations and national security matters during her four year Army obligation. During that tour of duty she was assigned to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida for six months to assist the prosecution team in U.S. vs Manuel Noriega with litigation regarding the use of classified information.

In other words, her specific duty was to make sure no mention of the CIA drug involvement got into the public record, at which she was eminently successful.

Wilkinson, after leaving the army, joined the Clinton /Reno Justice Department, first as Counsel to the Deputy Attorney General for criminal law matters and later as Principal Deputy Chief of the Terrorism and Violent Crime Section of the Criminal Division.

In that capacity she was part of the prosecution team in both the McVeigh and Nichols trials. She continued her coverup of any government involvement raising successful objections to any witnesses or facts that would implicate it.

Wilkinson delivered the summation at the penalty phases in both trials demanding the death penalty for both McVeigh and Nichols. The jury, however, returned a life without parole sentence for Nichols. a failure that may yet blow the case wide open.

Who was it that said the female of the specie is the more dangerous?

Beth Wilkinson falsely referred in open court to the defense attempts to introduce Strassmeyer's involvement with McVeigh as "Elvis sightings".

Typical paid shill strategem.

LT. ANDREAS STRASSMEIR - PzGren (SPz)

Before the McVeigh trial, the Justice Department derided any suggestion that Strassmeir could be linked to the Oklahoma bombing. The chief prosecutor, Joseph Hartzler, even went so far as to state to the court that "at no time did the FBI consider Andreas Strassmeir a subject of the Oklahoma City bombing investigation."

This was not true.

On April 28, 1995, the U.S. Embassy in Bonn sent a cable "TO SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY" in reference to the "Oklahoma City Bombing." The teletype transmits the results of a background check on Andreas Carl Strassmeir by German Police Intelligence. It refers to the e-mail and telcon requests of FBI Special Agent Hudspeth made on April 27, 1995.

The cable was sent to the State Department in Washington for distribution to the Counterterrorism Division, and to the office of Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott. Clearly, Strassmeir was under investigation by somebody in the FBI immediately after the bombing. Then the paper trail abruptly stops.

ATF Sought Son of Top Kohl Aide After Oklahoma Bombing

Germany Alert
April 7, 1997

DENVER -- U.S. authorities sought to apprehend the son of Chancellor Helmut Kohl's former Chief of Staff in connection with the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, a document has revealed. The murder trial for Timothy McVeigh, a defendant in the the bombing which killed 168 persons, began in Denver on Monday.

An official alert to "be on the lookout" for Andreas Strassmeir was issued by the Oklahoma State Patrol at the request of the ATF, a federal police agency responsible for investigating illegal weapons charges.

Strassmeir's father Gunther is a former Chief of Staff for Kohl and is credited with maneuvering to allow West Germany annex former East Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The elder Strassmeir is a veteran right winger in Kohl's Christian Democrat Union.

Defense attorneys representing McVeigh are expected to point to Strassmeir and implicate him in the bombing.

Text of U.S. Alert for Andreas Strassmeir

Here is the text of an alert for Andreas Strassmeir issued by the Oklahoma State Patrol at the request of the ATF. The reference to "BOLO" is an abbreviation for "Be On The Lookout"

* TROOPER SAFETY *

BOLO. BOLO. BOLO.

- INFORMATION FROM ATF -

Ehlom City North of Sallisaw

BOLO for Security Chief at Ehlom City Compound:

Andreas Stassmeir W/M 5-17-59, heavy German accent Black Hair/Blue Eyes

- 1" scar on chin, wears commo fatigues

- Possible Tennessee drivers license

- Came to USA in 5/91, passport was good until 8/91. He never left the country. INS says he does not have an extension on his VISA.

- Possibly in blue Chevy, late model tag BXH346 (not on file) usually has someone driving him.

- Carries a .45 auto pistol at all times.

- He is an illegal alien, ATF wants to be notified if he is stopped and has the gun on him. They will file the charges.

Contact: Agent Angela Finley ATF Office: 918-581-7731 (or) Pager: 918-672-2755

Trooper Ken Stafford #765

LISTE N TO THIS AUDIO CLIP - BOMBS EVERYWHERE

INTERVIEW WITH THE GRAND JUROR WHO WOULDN'T SHUT UP

Hillary Clinton and Buddy Young studying a map of the Murrah building on-site. The conversation must have went something like this: Now, we've destroyed the bombs from all the co nc rete pillars, right? Yes, yes. Are you going to do Yeakey? Yes. Slurping noise of diet coke.....

Who is Buddy Young in that photo?

THE PARKS MURDER

GOVERNMENT TERRORISM - From Ruby Ridge To Waco And Beyond

The Four Key Surveillance Video/Camera Tapes

• Murrah Building Surveillance Cameras
  
• Regency Towers Surveillance Tape
  
• Southwestern Bell Security Camera
  
• Federal Employee's Credit Union ATM Camera

  Reporters denied access to Oklahoma City bombing videotapes

  Reporters Denied Access To Oklahoma City Bombing Videotapes

  NEWS MEDIA UPDATE
  December 16, 1996

  COLORADO--A federal District Court in Denver ruled that reporters from Oklahoma City's KFOR-TV cannot see video camera surveillance tapes recorded before and during the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City by security cameras mounted around the building.

  The court said in late October that the tapes are covered by a protective order issued to keep evidence secret in proceedings against Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols and that they are exempt from the Freedom of Information Act under the law enforcement exemption covering potential interference with enforcement proceedings (Exemption 7a) and impeding a fair trial (Exemption 7b).

  KFOR reporters Melissa Klinzing and Brad Edwards asked the FBI for the tapes in June 1995, long before any protective order was issued by the court. The FBI denied the request initially and on administrative appeal. The reporters then filed suit in federal District Court in Oklahoma City in February 1996. The FOI case was removed to Colorado so that it could be considered along with the criminal case against McVeigh and Nichols.

  The reporters' attorney told the court that the law enforcement exemption should be used only when there is a danger of witness intimidation or of compromising confidential sources. Here disclosure would not pose these risks, he said. Additionally, the government had plenty of time to gather and use any information from the documents, he said.

  But the government argued that the premature public release of potential trial evidence could interfere with the government's effort to have the case tried without the "intrusion of public opinion or speculation about potential evidence and trial strategy." (Palmer Communications v. Department of Justice; Media Counsel: Jon Epstein, Oklahoma City)
  [End of Transcript]

  OKCSubmariner Threads

  Assistant US Attorney Murdered or Suicided For Investigating Federal Cover-up of OKC Bombing?
  "Despite the incriminating connections, Colbern disappeared from the official radar screen almost as quickly as he had appeared. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol video showing the brown pick-up--like the numerous surveillance tapes showing the activity at the Murrah Building on the morning of April 19-- was "seized" by the FBI."
  17 Posted on 10/01/2000 09:37:11 PDT by Plummz

  " For David Hoffman:

  I did much original research on the OKC bombing that YOU, OK State Representative Charles Key, the senior editor of the New American Magazine, William Jasper, KFORTV reporters Jayna Davis and Brad Edwards, ABC 20/20 reporter and producer Roger Charles and Don Thrasher, London Telegraph Reporter Ambrose Pritchard and many others have used in articles, reports, talks, interviews, radio and television programs and books.

  Your attorney Mike Johnston is in court hearings again with Federal Judge Wayne Alley to revive your lawsuit for Federal documents and evidence on OKC because I had Jayna Davis give Johnston my transcript (that I worked hard to get and research) of the Preliminary Hearing on April 27, 1995. The transcript provided the grounds to Judge Alley to reopen the lawsuit because the transcript shows the FBI lied about having surveillance tape photos of McVeigh and a John Doe at the scene in OKC."
  62 Posted on 10/07/2000 09:27:09 PDT by OKCSubmariner

  Ashcroft Relies On Evidence Obstructed by the FBI and US Prosecutors In OKC Bombing Case
  "But there is even much more known about the FBI documents that were found to show that Ashcroft and the prosecutors are extremely wrong in their assessments. The LA Times reported on May 14, 2001 in an article by Richard Serrano "More McVeigh Files Found" that the FBI documents contained surveillance photos and tapes and information about the FBI’s lead John Doe suspect Robert Jacques who may have been a government informant.

  The FBI did not show key John Doe witnesses in OKC photos or try to have them do sketches with the FBI sketch artist. And these witnesses were not asked to sign witness statements. The sketch artist Jean Boylan wrote in her book that the FBI command center agent Danny Coulson told her not to make a key sketch of John Doe #2 because he did not want to hurt the prosecution’s case. In these instances accurate 302s may have not been prepared if ever.

  Surveillance tapes confiscated by the FBI that could show John Does in and outside of the Murrah building were asked for and agreed to be produced at a Nov 13, 1996 pretrial hearing with Stephen Jones and they may have never been produced completely, but withheld by the US Prosecutors and the FBI. Defense Witness John Kuper testified that surveillance tapes from the public library and Southwestern Bell Telephone Company building should show McVeigh with the John Doe he saw at around 8 am on April 19, 1995 in OKC. The FBI and US prosecutors have never released these tapes to the defense attorneys or public.

  There are also surveillance tapes from cameras at the Regency Towers and Journal Record buildings near the Murrah Building that have not been released. The Journal Record building tapes is believed to show the actual explosion(s). And there are tapes from cameras in tunnels connecting the Murrah building with the Federal Court house and businesses in OKC that have not been released. Witness Bruce Shaw reported that men wearing ATF jackets were seen running down the tunnels shortly before the Murrah building was bombed.

  Gary Lewis saw McVeigh with a John Doe in the Mercury Marquis close to the Murrah Building moments before the explosion at the same time and place shown on FBI obtained surveillance tape photos as testified to by FBI agent John Hersley at the preliminary hearing on April 27, 1995. Lewis now has changed his story and does not want to talk to anyone after meeting further with the FBI and US prosecutors. Lewis’ original story was taped during a phone conversation with Glen Wilburn in 1995. I heard the tape."

  Was OKC Bombing Eyewitness Told What Happened In Failed Government Operation?
  "BlueDogDemo has posted that he knows that Federal agents were on scene moments after the bombing, too soon for them to have been dispatched and arrived that quick. Well, the eyewitness says in the taped call to the caller that she saw agents at the scene right after the bombing and she asks the caller about it.

  I have talked to the eyewitness and she says she, like BlueDogDemo and the OKC PD officer Terrence Yeakey (who was on scene moments after the bombing), believe that agents were on scene in advance of the bombing but did not warn those inside the Murrah building but had forewarning and foreknowledge.

  BlueDogDemo says there is video footage of agents in raid jackets at the scene shot very, very soon after the bombing, too soon for as many agents as seen to show up in raid jackets from the FBI headquarters almost 10 miles away from the Murrah building. BlueDog says he served as liaison between the State Deparment and the FBI bomb task force."
  28 Posted on 05/25/2001 17:54:07 PDT by OKCSubmariner

  Update: Did Former FBI Inspector Preside Over FBI Cover-Up of OKC Bombing?
  "There is also the suspicion that even now Defenbaugh is not being forthright and giving full disclosure so as to hide the truth about what he and the FBI have known about for six years: withheld and/or falsified FBI documents and FBI 302 interview notes and lead sheets and surveillance tapes, FBI 302 reports for interviews with John Doe witnesses that were deliberately not written, fingerprints that were deliberately not checked, sketches of John Does deliberately not made, and FBI 302 reports that have been written to cast doubt on original and earlier FBI 302 reports that put government foreknowledge and cover-up in a bad light (this tactic is discussed numerous times with examples in McVeigh defense attorney Stephen Jones’ book, "Others Unknown")."

  Reporter Describes Her Evidence For OKC Bombing
  All, and I repeat ALL, video's should be in the possession of the FBI lab---these include, the Regency Towers tape-- Southwestern Bell security camera's, and last but not least, the ATM camera of the Federal Employee's Credit Union, which was right, and I mean right inside the door of the north entrance---and BY GOD, after these are seen, tell me, and convince me that "other suspects,known or unknown" don't exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
  60 Posted on 05/17/2001 19:57:10 PDT by BlueDogDemo (*)

  NEW UPDATE: Did the FBI & Federal Prosecutors Risk Overturning of McVeigh and Nichols Convictions?
  " Wilkinson visited General Benton Partin in June 1996 with the FBI’s OKC Bomb Task Force inspector Danny Defenbaugh to discuss Partin’s analysis of the cause of damage to the Murrah Building. During the interview with Wilkinson, which was taped by Partin, Defenbaugh pointed to the location of what had been publicly shown as the truck bomb crater and said words to the effect: Suppose I were to tell you that is not the location of the crater from the source that did the most damage to the Murrah Building? Wilkinson tried to belittle and disparage Partin’s credentials during the interview, actions which were extremely insulting and suggested intimidation and Federal cover-up to discourage Partin should he have been called as a witness at the McVeigh or Nichols trials."

  Did Former FBI Inspector Preside Over FBI Cover-up of OKC Bombing?
  " Senior FBI case agent John Hersley, also later under Defenbaugh, testified at a preliminary hearing on April 27, 1995, that the FBI had photos (taken from a surveillance camera on the Regency Towers apartment building nearby) that showed McVeigh with a John Doe speeding away in the Mercury Marquis moments before the Ryder truck blew up. Hersely told the court that the photos corroborated what FBI witness Gary Lewis had seen, McVeigh with a John Doe, at the same time and place shown on the surveillance camera photos. This court evidence and the photos are the subject of a Federal Hearing in OKC scheduled for June 2001 with several attorneys and a Federal Judge.

  Question:

  Are there any extant photographs of the sheared off colums, OKCSubmariner?

  Best regards. S&W R.I.P.
  72 Posted on 04/01/2001 19:48:59 PDT by Hopalong

  Answer:

  Yes, General Partin has them. I found them for him among photos provided by Oscar Johnson, the elevator inspector, in May 1995. Partin was with me at the time as we were going through the photos and I pointed them out to Partin. I was looking for teh earliest photos taken at the time before the columns were taken done early on.

  Partin asked Jones team who interviewed Partin to subpoena government photos of the coluumns and government confiscated surveillance tapes that exist which show the actual explosion. Jones never tried to subpoena the documents. PArtin suspects that either Jones investigators (Wilma Sparks or JD Cash) sandbagged Jones, or that Jones himself deliberatley helped the government keep evidence out of the trial that he should have brought in. I talked to Partin specifically about this again today, April 2, 2001."
  77Posted on 04/03/2001 00:10:12 PDT by OKCSubmariner

  FBI Suppresses and Falsifies Information About Middle Eastern Suspects in the OKC Bombing Case
  "The official reports, shown on local OKC television stations that day were uniform in reporting that the bomb was planted inside the building and that two unexploded bombs were found inside the building and disarmed. There was a report of a military bomb disposal unit being personally dispatched to OKC by the President himself. Survivors of the explosion(s) were evacuated when the discovery of the other bombs was announced, with the evacuations shown on tape. All of the media reports of additional bombs were verified by "government sources." A government terrorism expert was interviewed on one of the stations and explained that the recovery of two unexploded bombs would help the government to determine responsibility for the crime. The story abruptly changed from multiple bombs within the building to one bomb in a car, van, and then a truck on the street, with the outside bomb changing its size several times."
  36 Posted on 03/14/2001 16:47:49 PST by roughrider

  " First of all, I TOLD you that the reports about additional bombs, and the report that the explosion resulted from a bomb INSIDE the building, all came from MEDIA OUTLETS based in Oklahoma City during the hours just after the explosion. I have those reports on videotape. They did NOT emanate from any militia. I believe you are referring to ONE militia source, THE JOHN DOE TIMES, which is critical of the government's version, but the JOHN DOE TIMES was NOT the source I cited, but that of local "mainstream" television station news departments."
  39 Posted on 03/14/2001 18:12:22 PST by roughrider

  WorldnetDaily Articles

  Catch all terrorists
  "Above all else, he should order the Justice Department attorneys to call a halt to their efforts to have a Federal court in Oklahoma dismiss the lawsuit filed under the Freedom of Information Act calling for the release of the 23 tapes the FBI confiscated from surveillance cameras at the Murrah Building and other buildings in the same area. Those behind this suit believe that some of these tapes will show Timothy McVeigh together with co-conspirators other than Terry Nichols before and immediately after the bombing of the Murrah Building. If that proves to be the case, Louis Freeh and former Attorney General Janet Reno will have to explain why they mounted no effort to apprehend and prosecute those terrorists."

  Revealing The Truth About OKC - Charles Key
  "Q: What ever happened to all the contemporaneous videotape that KFOR and others collected the day of the tragedy. I can still remember hearing someone muttering, "There's still another bomb inside."

  A: That's a big, big issue. In fact, there is a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that is engaged in Oklahoma City right now in federal court, and has been for about a year, trying to get tapes to be released.

  Q: What do the FBI and Justice Department say and do?

  A: They don't give any substantive reasons why they shouldn't release them. That's the main reason it's gone on for 12 months and now is set to go to trial in June, unless the judge all of a sudden decides to give the government a summary judgment as they continue to ask for. There have been at least 22 tapes that have been identified. They have not yet had to specify what tapes they have in their possession, but we know what a lot of those are and where they come from. One of them is from the Alfred P. Murrah Building, right at the front of it."

  Glenn and Kathy Wilburn
  "Two hours later Glenn was watching the news. It was a live interview with John Magaw, the director of the ATF, explaining that the agency had taken special precautions on April 19. "I was very concerned about that day and issued memos to all our field offices. They were put on alert," said Magaw. It was the lies that offended Glenn more than anything else. One lie, after another, after another."

  Bin Laden link remains elusive
  "Her controversial stories about John Doe No. 2 eventually led Davis to leave KFOR-TV, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City, Okla., where she was an award-winning investigative reporter and a rising star. She said the station's new owner, the New York Times Co., "shut down" her investigation. After she left in 1997, the station sued her for removing videotapes – without permission and wrongfully, it claimed – of confidential witnesses she'd interviewed. However, Davis says she was just trying to protect her sources, a position acknowledged by Oklahoma District Judge Bryan Dixon in his 1999 ruling that the tapes had to be returned to KFOR.

  Davis also was sued by the Iraqi she accused of being convicted bomber Timothy McVeigh's partner. Although the Iraqi's Aug. 24, 1995, defamation lawsuit was dismissed, he refiled the suit six months later, on Sept. 22, 1997.

  Some local media, including other TV stations, came to the man's defense. And one weekly newspaper said Davis, who still lives in Oklahoma City, embellished the story. However, U.S. District Judge Timothy Leonard on Nov. 17, 1999, vindicated Davis' reporting on the Iraqi national by awarding KFOR a Summary Judgment motion and ruling that the plaintiff had presented no evidence to refute Channel 4’s stories about him. Nevertheless, the defamation case is now being heard, on appeal, in federal court."

  ..."In fact, she says she laid the FBI's profile sketch over a profile shot of Al-Hussaini's face that she and a private investigator, who was employed by the TV station at the time, had captured on surveillance video.

  "The similarities between the profile sketch and Al-Hussaini were uncanny," she concluded."

  Feds canceled pre-blast raid
  "As more damning evidence came in regarding Elohim City, Finley, on Feb. 7, 1995, along with other ATF officials, "flew with OHP [Oklahoma State Patrol] pilot Ken Stafford over Elohim City" to take photographs and video of the grounds and buildings, to gather intelligence that would assist in an eventual raid of the complex to arrest Strassmeir and others plotting government attacks."

  Oklahoma City's Lost Information
  "Witnesses reported seeing three men in the parking garage of the Murrah building (it had nine stories above ground and had a four-floor parking garage underneath) working with "electrical equipment and pointing at various parts of the garage in the days before the attack. Many survivors reported that some of these men were dressed in Government Services Administration uniforms but had never seen them before or since."

  The Death of Oklahoma City Police Oficer Terrance Yeakey
  "In regards to Yeakey's videos, Detective Mullinex, who "investigated" the case for the OCPD, told Vicki Jones, "I really don't think you'll want to see those; they contain pornography." Jones didn't believe him and didn't care. "I want those tapes!" she demanded.

  The Homicide detective finally told her she'd get them back after they had "examined the evidence." "One minute the guy would say he had them," said Jones, "the next minute he'd say 'we don't have anything....'"

  According to Jones, Mullinex then said, "Now, we all loved Terry. I hope you understand that, but I'm not going to let you see any pictures. And I don't know anything about a briefcase, but if there's anything back there, I'll give you a call, and you can come back and get them."

  Th e Jane Graham Statement - Jane tells of three men that Jane saw in the Murrah Building Garage the week prior to the bombing, and the FBI's obvious disinterest in the matter. Are there security video tapes of these men?

  The Oklahoma City Bombing: A Morass of Unanswered Questions
  "The FBI allegedly has 22 or more surveillance tapes from cameras mounted on the front of the Murrah Federal Building that survived the blast and would have shown the front of the Ryder truck itself including the driver’s and rider’s seats – presumably revealing whether McVeigh was alone or in the company of others up to the final seconds before the blast. The FBI has refused to release these tapes, although an independent investigator named David Hoffman has sued to obtain them under the Freedom of Information Act."

  A letter from Grand Juror Hoppy Heidelberg to Judge David L. Russell
  "5) All video surveillance tapes from cameras near the Murrah Building, including the one made by a Southwestern Bell camera which reportedly shows John Doe II getting out of the Ryder truck before McVeigh drove it to the Murrah Building"

  OKLAHOMA CITY COVERUP EXPOSED
  "Eleven days before the bombing Strassmeir, Brescia and McVeigh were seen together at Lady Godiva's, a strip club located in Tulsa, by several of the women who worked there. A video tape that was made in the dressing room of the club that night was shown in the CBC documentary. One of the dancers who appears in the tape mentioned that a customer had told her that "You're going to remember me on April 19, '95; you're going to remember me for the rest of your life.

  In the same interview, Evans-Pritchard dropped a bombshell of his own. Although the government claims to have witnesses who identify McVeigh as the person who came to the Ryder agency, under the alias of Robert Kling, to rent the truck used in the bombing, he could not have been there. McVeigh's defense team have a video tape taken from a surveillance camera that shows him sitting in a McDonald's in Junction City, eating a hamburger, at the time the truck was rented. This might explain why the description of John Doe I circulated by the FBI referred to a man with "pock-marked skin, fairly stocky" who stood about 5'10", whereas McVeigh is about 6' 3" tall, thin as a rail (160 lbs) and has a smooth complexion."

  Oklahoma Grand Jury Sees Problems With Missing Evidence, Witnesses

  Possible Videotapes of the Criminal Act in Progress

  QUESTION: Let's talk about the video tapes from surveillance cameras on a building across the street from the Murrah Building. What was the name of that building?

  McCAULEY: The Journal Records Building.

  QUESTION: Is that a newspaper?

  McCAULEY: It was a publishing company once, it's the name of the building. It was directly across the street on the north side of 5th Street, which is where the explosion was - where all the damage was.

  QUESTION: If I remember correctly, at least one of the videotapes had been given to Governor Keating's assistant. Is that correct?

  McCAULEY: There is some controversy about where the tapes went and who ended up with them. There is an FBI 302 document which we submitted into evidence that shows that a man named Danny Payne, who is the maintenance man at the Journal Records Building, did hand over to an FBI agent a video camera with a video enclosed. It says that in the report. There is a serial number in this report. I thought it was very curious that it said there was a tape in there, because, normally, in a surveillance camera the tape is somewhere else, like in a control center.

  QUESTION: Were these cameras hanging on the outside of the building?

  McCAULEY: Yes. And Payne seemed to think that even though they may not have gotten any pictures after the explosion, he thought there were some images prior to.

  QUESTION: Has the grand jury subpoenaed these materials from the federal government?

  McCAULEY: Not to my knowledge.

  QUESTION: That would be the logical thing to do, wouldn't it?

  McCAULEY: Yes. Well, you're talking logic, and I'm talking this. There are a lot of things which should have been handed over to this grand jury which have not been, including the entire federal case load up in Denver, which Bob Macy says he doesn't have, they haven't given it to him yet.

  QUESTION: Has that been subpoenaed?

  McCAULEY: It has not, as far as I know.

  QUESTION: Why not?

  McCAULEY: That's a very good question, and one that we keep asking. Why can't these grand jurors have it? It is a secret proceeding, it should not interfere with criminal procedures whatsoever. And your guess is as good as mine.

  Bomb Damage Analysis Of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
  "To remove all ambiguity with respect to the use of supplementary demolition charges, the FBI should be required to release the high quality surveillance color TV camera tape of the Murrah building bombing on April 19, 1995.

  It is my observation that the effort required to bomb the A. P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City pales in comparison with the effort to cover up evidence in Oklahoma and the media's withholding of vital information from the American people.

  Sincerely yours,
  Benton K. Partin
  Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.)"

  Oklahoma - Have You Been Told The Truth?
  "4. During the trial, America was shown surveillance film from the Regency Towers, a 20-story building across and down the street from the Murrah Building. I stood in front of that building on May 18, 1995. This film clearly shows a Ryder truck [we don't know the color because the film is in black and white and Ryder does rent 23' - 26' white trucks to the public] at 8:57 am on April 19, 1995. We see the truck move on but we don't know where it goes. Some saw a truck pull up in front of the building, someone get out and walk away. I have yet to hear anyone say what happened to this truck someone exited - did it stay there, did it drive on - what?

  Consider this coincidence: Martin Keating, brother of Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating, claims he has/had copies of the surveillance film from the Southwest Bell building across the street from the Murrah building. The film from the Regency Towers survived completely intact. The government claims the Southwest Bell film didn't - my money says they're lying and they're lying to protect their assets and their invented story.

  McVeigh allegedly was linked to the Elhoim City people by a phone card. We only have the government's word on this and in my book, they have zero, zip, zilch credibility. It would have been nice to be able to subpoena Joseph Bealie Gray to testify at McVeigh's trial. This former FBI agent investigated the OKC bombing and Waco. He retrieved phone records during the investigation of the bombing and was the agent who helped direct the FBI's hidden electronics surveillance during the Waco situation. Unfortunately, Mr. Gray retired from the Bureau in 1996 and died at the age of 54 from an apparent heart attack in February of 1997. "

  FBI Caught In A FIB
  "In the Trentadue case, older brother Jesse Trentadue says that from the very beginning, Justice Department lawyers have lied about the existence of critical evidence, including death scene pictures. Federal officials finally admitted that photos existed only after a number of them were leaked to a writer for GQ Magazine, Mary Fischer.

  Though they admitted photos existed, Justice then they claimed they couldn't find the negatives of the 35-millimeter snapshots taken of Cell 709A where several prison guards have testified Trentadue's body was found hanging at 3 AM on August 21, 1995.

  Early-on, a literal "swearing contest" erupted between the prison guard who took the pictures, and the FBI Special Agent he swore under oath he gave them to. The agent testified that he never received them. After several years, the negatives mysteriously reappeared in the Oklahoma City's FBI field office where another Special Agent, Tommy Linn, says he found them in a stack of pictures of the Oklahoma City's paramilitary FBI "SWAT" team."

"We at the FBI do not want your secrets, unless of course you are a terrorist or a spy," - Valerie Caproni

ARE YOU A TERRORIST?

According To The FBI, If You Believe In The Constitution You Are!

In short :

In November of 2001, The Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (Greater Phoenix, Arizona), and the Maricopa County Attorney printed this flyer and were going to hand them out to their fellow officers. As they put it, the FBI created the flyer and printed them before the text of them were approved. But they got out ! For the full story go here - Keep And Bear Arms.com.

Two Points of Interest !
Point One: The front says,
If you encounter any of the following,
Call the Joint Terrorism Task Force .

Second Point:
Is on the bottom photo in a Red Box !
Right-Wing Extremists
Defenders of the US Constitution against federal government and the UN

Top FBI lawyer helped destroy TWA Flight 800

WorldnetDaily December 3, 2004 Jack Cashill

In August 2003, a former U.S. attorney in the Clinton administration, Valerie Caproni, was appointed to the top legal job within the Federal Bureau of Investigation – that of general counsel. As such, she provides legal advice to the director and other FBI officials and, among other duties, coordinates the defense of civil actions filed against the United States for the official acts of FBI employees.

"This is the coolest job in the world," the 5-foot-tall Caproni recently told Robert Vosper, author of a 4,000-word profile on Caproni in the Corporate Legal Times titled, "The Chosen One." "I can be doing national security stuff in the morning, a Patriot Act issue after lunch and an employment problem in the afternoon."

Caproni, however, has a clouded legal past that provides an unfortunate study in how the national security apparatus can function if placed in the wrong hands. Working in the Clinton Justice Department, Caproni did not need the Patriot Act to go awry.

The co-author of this article, James Sanders, learned about Caproni early in his investigation into the crash of TWA Flight 800. Within days of the crash, it was she who illegally took the investigation away from the National Transportation Safety Board and gave it to the FBI.

The relevant law [Title 49, section 1131(a)(2)] reads as follows: "An investigation by the Board ... has priority over any investigation by another department, agency or instrumentality of the United States Government." The "Board" in question is the National Transportation Safety Board. In other words, a "parallel" FBI investigation is by law inferior to the NTSB investigation.

Caproni, as head of the Justice Department Criminal District, Eastern District of New York, knew the law. She knew that the FBI was the subordinate agency. She knew that the NTSB could not legally be restricted in its pursuit of information. Still, in spite of the law, she used the full weight of the Justice Department, and the intimidating presence of the FBI, to order the NTSB witness group to cease and desist all of the critical eyewitness interviews.

"As for the charges that she and the FBI took over investigation," writes Vosper casually, "Caproni says she is guilty." The FBI never did declare TWA Flight 800 a crime scene, the only possible justification for Caproni's intrusion. An NTSB document reveals that Caproni and the Justice Department took over the investigation to ensure that only one story emerged from the witness interviews, the official story, their story. In this, she fully succeeded.

Caproni, alas, was just warming up. Her second major transgression was to place herself in charge of a grand jury investigating Sanders and his wife, Elizabeth. Sanders had received a residue sample from a source in the TWA Flight 800 investigation in his attempt to expose potential criminal misconduct by the same FBI that Caproni herself had illicitly imposed on site.

In the course of her investigation into the Sanders, Caproni crossed over the line into criminal territory [USC Title 18, section 1001]. She did so by declaring in writing that she did not know Sanders was a journalist, thus making it possible to seize his phone records and ultimately his computer and the information contained within its hard drive.

Caproni's purported ignorance of Sanders' profession defies belief. She, in fact, first learned about James Sanders from an account of his investigation in the Riverside Press Enterprise, March 10, 1997. Sanders' name was easy to find. It was on page one, above the fold, second paragraph of the lead story. To the immediate left of "James Sanders" were two words that challenge Caproni's innocence . The two words were "Investigative Reporter." Indeed, even the Corporate Legal Times' profile on Caproni describes Sanders as a "freelance journalist."

It was Sanders' reporting that first alerted Caproni to the problem at hand, namely that a journalist was probing into potential criminal acts within the TWA 800 investigation – acts likely committed by federal officials. These officials, she knew, included herself and the FBI head of the investigation, James Kallstrom, who had been coerced into cooperating. The conflict of interest here should have caused Caproni to recuse herself. If not Caproni, her supervisors in the White House, Jamie Gorelick and Janet Reno, should never have allowed Caproni to pursue a case against her own potential accuser. But then again, it was the future 9-11 commissioner Gorelick who had leaned on Kallstrom.

When Sanders first met with Caproni in April 1997, he had no idea of the hornet's nest he was walking in to. Escorted by Jeff Schlanger, a former New York prosecutor, Sanders sat across from Caproni and a senior FBI agent. A large video taping system recorded the entire meeting. As part of the federal system used for video meetings during times of crisis, it was hooked up to other systems in Washington, D.C. as well as at the FBI's New York City headquarters. The Clinton Justice department had its first look at the retired cop turned journalist who threatened its grip on power.

At this meeting, Caproni told Sanders he would become the "target" of a Justice Department/FBI investigation if he did not immediately turn over the names of those inside the investigation who were assisting him. Sanders refused. His attorney argued for Sanders' First Amendment rights as a reporter. Caproni was not impressed.

The only words that count in a criminal case are those in the trial transcript, spoken under oath. Sanders' attorney at the April 1997 meeting, Jeff Schlanger, was placed under oath at the Sanders' criminal trial two years later. These are the relevant words from the trial transcript:

Q: Did the government indicate at that meeting what, if any, actions they were prepared to take with respect to Liz Sanders?

A: At the very end of that meeting there was a change in the status of Mrs. Sanders from being just a subject in the investigation, to a possible target in the investigation. And that was communicated directly to myself and Mr. Sanders.

Q: And when you say [it] was communicated directly to you, what was your understanding if she did not cooperate?

A: That the government would at least attempt to seek an indictment against her as well.

Q: Now ...

A: It wasn't if she did not cooperate. It was if Mr. Sanders did not cooperate."

The feds had a complete audio-video tape of the meeting. An FBI agent at that meeting was in the courtroom, available to rebut this sworn testimony. The Justice Department declined to engage further in the issue. Why? The testimony accurately reflected what the Justice Department video contained.

At that point the trial should have been over. The judge was certainly aware that Caproni had crossed the line once again into unlawful territory. Her threat against Elizabeth, now revealed in open court, constituted "vindictive prosecution." Worse, it violated the civil rights of the Sanders as no evidence was ever produced to validate Caproni's rationale for targeting Elizabeth. Caproni had simply exploited Elizabeth, holding her hostage to Justice Department chicanery, in a last-minute gambit to get her husband to identify his source.

But the trial did not end with this revelation. Caproni had stacked the federal deck against the Sanders. Both were convicted of conspiracy to steal airplane parts – a law designed to protect crash sites from scavengers. The mainstream media, so seemingly keen on constitutional rights in the Ashcroft era, mocked the Sanders as "conspiracy theorists" and generally applauded their conviction.

In the years that followed, as Sanders served out his three-year probation, he often wondered why Caproni and her allies had hammered him so. A summation of her arguably illicit acts defies easy explanation. These include:

Illegally turning the TWA 800 investigation over to the FBI.

Leading a grand jury investigation of a reporter who was investigating her own misconduct.

Denying in writing any knowledge that he was a reporter so she could seize his computer and phone records.

Threatening the vindictive prosecution of Sanders' wife to force Sanders to cooperate.

Making this threat knowing there was no evidence against Elizabeth Sanders.

Overseeing the Sanders' conviction on irrelevant and gratuitous charges, thereby silencing her most dangerous journalist critic.

Only recently, upon discovering another reason beyond the obvious, did Sanders begin to understand Caproni's behavior. This reason, recently revealed, is a jaw dropper. In that ill-fated summer of 1996, Caproni, Kallstrom and other senior FBI agents may well have unwittingly assisted Islamic terrorist Ramzi Yousef in his effort to destroy an American commercial airliner.

At the time, Caproni was involved in an ongoing sting operation against Yousef. While being tried in federal court for his role in Operation Bojinka, Yousef's diabolical plot to destroy American targets through the air, Yousef operated under the illusion of having a safe telephone within his New York City jail

Yousef thought he was routing messages to the outside world through a phone controlled by the New York Cosa Nostra. Five-time Emmy-winner Peter Lance documents this thoroughly in his new book, "Cover Up." In fact, mob informant Gregory Scarpa Jr. was cooperating with the Justice Department. It was Caproni, by the way, who had put Scarpa behind bars, one of her "proudest accomplishments."

Yousef was on a mission. According to Lance, he needed to arrange for the destruction of an American commercial airliner during the course of his trial in order to demand a mistrial. A mistrial was a much more viable legal option if the aircraft were flying into or out of a New York City area airport.

Yousef made many calls that summer. All were recorded by the FBI. Among his correspondents was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, his uncle and the 9-11 mastermind. Unfortunately for the United States, Yousef often used two obscure languages that apparently the FBI could not translate in a timely fashion. At the precise time in the trial when Yousef needed a mistrial declared – July 17, National Liberation Day in Saddam's Iraq – TWA Flight 800 blew up off the coast of Long Island, compelling circumstantial evidence that Yousef succeeded in plotting the downing of a commercial plane using a telephone provided by the Justice Department and FBI.

The judge wisely denied him his mistrial. The Clinton Justice Department, with Caproni on point, unwisely buried the whole mess. And for about five more years, they likely thought they had pulled a fast one – that is, until Sept. 11 made them rethink their wisdom.

"We need to stop the hypocrisy," the FBI's James Kallstrom told Dan Rather on that fateful day.

We couldn't agree more.

Audio/Additional Bombs

Proof of Bombs and Cover-up

Mult iple Blasts: More Evidence

FBI Destroyed Possible McVeigh Evidence

Feb 13, 2003

By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The FBI (news - web sites) and prosecutors ordered the destruction in 1999 of evidence from a bank robbery they once suspected linked Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites) to white supremacists who were threatening before McVeigh's bombing to attack the government, documents show.

The evidence included a surveillance videotape of a bank robbery by some of the supremacists that occurred in Ohio five months before the bombing. The FBI lab compared the tape to pictures of McVeigh, but concluded a match was "inconclusive," internal memos show.

The 1999 destruction order, obtained by The Associated Press, was unusual because at the time McVeigh and one of the bank robbers had legal appeals pending.

And the government knew, but had turned aside, an offer from one of the bank robbers, Peter Kevin Langan, to provide information about possible other conspirators in the McVeigh case. Langan and his lawyer claim he still possesses Oklahoma City information the government hasn't heard.

FBI officials said Wednesday they were still trying to determine whether the videotape and other evidence was actually destroyed, but remain confident all those responsible for the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building (news - web sites) have been punished.

"Every lead, regardless of its credibility, was thoroughly investigated to its conclusions," FBI spokesman Mike Kortan said. "While conspiracy stories continue to circulate, no evidence that other individuals were involved in the bombing was corroborated by the investigation."

Dan Defenbaugh, the retired FBI agent who led the Oklahoma City investigation, said while he was knew about the original effort to link McVeigh to the robbery, he was troubled by the evidence destruction order and unaware of it.

"Normally, all evidence is held by the FBI until the completion of all appeals," Defenbaugh said.

The videotape and connections to bank robbers were among thousands of pages of documents gathered by AP that show FBI investigators in the Oklahoma City case gathered evidence linking McVeigh to white supremacists who the government had been told before the bombing were threatening to attack government buildings.

Some of those supremacists, including the robbers, frequented an Elohim City compound in eastern Oklahoma where a federal informant warned federal law enforcement weeks before McVeigh's bombing that members were agitating to attack the government.

The FBI connected McVeigh to Elohim City through hotel receipts, a speeding ticket, prisoner interviews, informant reports and phone records and strongly suspected in the beginning that members there were familiar with his plan, the memos show.

"It is suspected that members of Elohim City are involved either directly or indirectly through conspiracy," federal agents wrote just days after McVeigh detonated a truck bomb on April 19, 1995, outside the Murrah building and killed more than 160 people.

Several documents obtained by AP were not provided to the bomber's defense before he was convicted, and his original lawyer said he believes the omissions kept jurors from considering other possible accomplices in the case.

"They short-circuited the search for the truth," attorney Stephen Jones said. "I don't doubt Tim's role in the conspiracy. But I think he clearly aggrandized his role, enlarged it, to cover for others who were involved."

McVeigh was executed in June 2001.

The documents also include a teletype from FBI headquarters in August 1996 that reported McVeigh called Elohim City two weeks before his bombing, a call to a home where members of the violent Aryan Nation bank robbery gang were present.

McVeigh made the call on April 5, 1995, moments after calling the Ryder truck company where he rented the truck that carried his deadly fertilizer bomb.

The FBI teletype revealed that the gang members were familiar with explosives and had made a videotape three months before McVeigh struck vowing a war against the federal government and promising a "courthouse massacre." The Murrah building was across the street from the federal courthouse in Oklahoma City.

The teletype also noted that two of the robbers left Elohim City on April 16 for a location in Kansas a few hours from where McVeigh was doing the final assembly of his bomb.

Defenbaugh, who supervised the Oklahoma City investigation, told AP he never saw the memo. He said while he didn't consider the teletype a "smoking gun" that would have changed the outcome of the probe, his investigative team "shouldn't have been cut out. We should have been kept in on all the items of the robbery investigation until it was resolved as connected or not connected to Oklahoma City."

Defenbaugh said he also was surprised to learn, from AP interviews and documents, that prosecutors in 1996 made and then withdrew a plea bargain offer to Langan, one of the imprisoned bank robbers.

"The Justice Department (news - web sites) came to us through the assistant U.S. attorney and said, 'We believe your client knows about Oklahoma City and we want to talk to him. We want to work out a deal,'" Langan's lawyer Kevin Durkin told AP.

Langan made several demands the government wasn't willing to meet, and prosecutors dropped the request, Durkin said.

Durkin said his client had planned to tell prosecutors that he could disprove the April 19 alibis for two of the bank robbers mentioned in the FBI teletype.

Langan recently asked a court to stop the government from destroying evidence he claims may be relevant to the Oklahoma City case.

"The government also hid evidence from the defense counsel of Timothy McVeigh that it had agreed to turn over," Langan wrote in a recent court filing. "These documents show a link between the Oklahoma City bombing case and government witness(e)s in" the bank robbery case.

FBI officials acknowledged some of the documents were not provided to McVeigh's defense team before his trial. For instance, they said FBI teletypes were not covered by the agreement governing documents for McVeigh's defense.

They also acknowledged that agents suspected at one point that the bomber was linked to Elohim City and the Aryan Nation bank robbers.

But they said that after more than 1 million investigative hours that generated more than 1 billion documents and checked 43,000 tips, FBI agents found no concrete evidence of McVeigh conspirators beyond Terry Nichols, who is in federal prison.

"Even though we had our conspiracy theories, we still had to deal with facts and the fact is we couldn't find anyone else who was involved," Defenbaugh said.

The documents show the FBI suspected McVeigh participated in a December 1994 Ohio bank robbery with the Aryan Nation robbers.

But on March 17, 1999 while Langan and McVeigh appeals were still pending the FBI wrote that prosecutors had "advised that they saw no reason to maintain custody of the evidence" in the case. "In view of the above, the evidence will be destroyed," the FBI wrote.

FBI officials had several reasons to suspect a connection:

_McVeigh's sister told them her brother gave her money from a bank robbery and asked her to launder it in December 1994.

_The leader of the robbery gang, Mark Thomas, initially told agents after his arrest that he suspected some of his members were involved in McVeigh's plot. He later recanted.

_A girlfriend of one of the bank robbers told the FBI her boyfriend had told her beforehand of a plan to bomb a federal building, and that he left days before the bombing for a trip to Elohim City. "We are going to get them. We are going to hit one of their buildings during the middle of the day. It is going to be a federal building," the FBI quoted the bank robber as telling the girlfritnd.

FBI agents stopped pursuing possible connections between McVeigh and the robbers when the suspects all denied assisting the Oklahoma bomber. Most weren't given lie detector tests, officials said.

The robbers, however, weren't the only evidence that led the FBI to suspect a link between McVeigh and Elohim City.

Agents collected a receipt showing McVeigh stayed at a hotel near the compound on Sept. 13, 1994. The hotel was about 20 miles away in Vian, Okla., one of the closest cities with a hotel near the compound. The FBI also obtained a speeding ticket McVeigh received just 12 miles from the compound.

They also interviewed a witness who had aided government prosecutors in other white supremacist cases.

John Shults told agents in 1997 he was "sure beyond a shadow of a doubt" he saw McVeigh at Elohim City in 1994 at a meeting about a mysterious delivery and the use of a Ryder truck. Shults "felt strongly the delivery may have been a reference to the bombing," according to one federal agent's interview report.

Within a few days of the bombing, FBI officials received intelligence suggesting members of Elohim City had information relevant to the investigation.

A federal informant talked with one compound member who "discussed alibis for April 19, 1995, and the components of" McVeigh's bomb, investigative memos show. The same member had claimed, before McVeigh's bombing, that he had detonated a 500-pound fertilizer bomb, similar to the one McVeigh later used.

That compound member also discussed the name of a munitions dealer that McVeigh's phone records showed the bomber called more than two dozen times in the weeks before the attack. McVeigh had the dealer's phone number in his wallet when he was captured.

Pentagon Report Reveals Multiple Blasts in Oklahoma City Bombing

Expl osive Evidence of a Cover-up
"In his May 18th letter to Congress and in his earlier interview with THE NEW AMERICAN General Partin pointed out that it would not have been difficult to place explosive charges at the bases of the columns in row A since that row is accessible from the street. However, as we have seen, the charges were not placed at the column bases, but at the juncture of the odd-numbered A columns and the header. This means they were not placed at the street level -- which could have been done from the outside -- but on the third floor. Which means the bomber(s) had to have access to the inside of the building.

"This, of course, casts a whole new light on the bombing. And a very disturbing and sinister light at that, since it implies an "inside job," and makes it very difficult to pin the blame solely on the individual, or individuals, who positioned the truck bomb. It virtually necessitates the involvement of individuals who had normal access to the building. "You just don't walk in off the street through security with explosives like this," says Partin.

Th e Oklahoma City Bombing - PROOF there were additional explosive charges

Rohrabacher has discussed his plan with former Oklahoma GOP Gov. Frank Keating, Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Okla., and Keating and Istook discouraged him, the Tulsa World reported. Keating said Rohrabacher told him he wanted to pursue a theory that McVeigh and Nichols were trained to make explosives by the FBI, and when they carried out the attack, the FBI covered up its involvement. "I told him, 'With all due respect, I don't think you know how agents work,'" said Keating, a former FBI agent and top-ranking Justice Department official. "It makes absolutely no sense." A spokeswoman for Istook confirmed he spoke with Rohrabacher and discouraged him from going ahead."

"We're going to have to give up some of our liberties"
Frank Keating - September 11, 2001 - CNN Radio

We need more laws.

Republicans Want Terror Law Made Permanent

Ridge Says Terrorism Is Permanent

Cheney: War Could Last Generations

"Terrorism is an inescapable reality of life. It is a permanent condition to which America and the entire world must adjust. The need for homeland security, therefore, is not tied to any specific terrorist threat."
George W. Bush - Source.

"We knew this was going to happen, we blew it."

"David Kochendorfer and Don Hammons, the two reserve officers, say Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Okla., made the statement about advance knowledge of the bombing."

One of my all-time favorites:

"Raising questions would not bring one whit of intelligence to the process."
FRANK KEATING - Governor of Oklahoma.

That statement must of been what attracted Faux News.

April 17, 2005

Source

Jane E. Graham, an employee of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, is also convinced of a larger conspiracy. She suffered partial hearing loss in the bombing and witnessed the deaths of five close co-workers.

Graham believes a second bomb exploded after McVeigh's truck bomb. She said the second bomb was planted in the basement of the building, probably by members of al-Qaida, with help from the government itself.

A half-hour before the explosion, Graham said, she arrived for work and saw two federal agents in "raid jackets," talking to a third man outside the building. She believes the three men had something to do with the bombing.

"People have a hard time believing the government would be involved in killing innocent people," Graham said. "I really believe God saved me because of what I saw and what I know and nobody can ever change that."

"Raising questions would not bring one whit of intelligence to the process." FRANK KEATING - Governor of Oklahoma.

OMYGOSH, Uncle Bill...I had not seen that one. That makes my blood boil.

He doesn't care that our blood is boiling. He just wants useful idiots (there is no shortage)to think we howl at the moon off the reservation. 8-)

Rep. Charles Key on the Facts of the Oklahoma Bombing
"People in powerful positions have repeatedly attacked those of us who have been scrutinizing the federal investigation. Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating was a former FBI agent himself and spent most of his career in the services of Federal Departments of the Treasury, Justice and HUD (Housing and Urban Development). At one time in his career his responsibilities included the overseeing of the ATF and other federal law enforcement. Gov. Keating went so far as to say that "raising questions would not bring one whit of intelligence to the process." He later escalated his attacks saying those of us who were raising serious questions were "howling at the moon" and "off the reservation."

FRANK KEATING - Crimes Committed By FBI Officials and Agents During National Security Operations

Thanks for all you did Frank.