A beginning to understanding this is in understanding these principles; Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Please see the post under that name.
A well- known revolutionary philosopher of nineteenth century (Karl Marx) claimed to have found the underlying principles of revolutionary change having universal application. He, however, admitted that he borrowed these principles from an earlier philosopher (G.W.F. Hegel) who had propounded them under a term "dialectics". Dialectics of Hegel was a process that consisted of three parts: Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis. Thesis is the starting point and can be considered to take place at any point and every point in every thing or object under study in the whole process. By virtue of its very nature Thesis always contains a contradictory element, that is, its antithesis. The existence of Antithesis along with Thesis is the very condition of the existence of Thesis. The conflict and contradiction between Thesis and Antithesis bring changes and give birth to conditions and things that are incompatible with Thesis and can not be reconciled within its legitimate confines. Over a period of time these irreconcilable contradictions go on accumulating and at a certain point of time a drastic change takes place resulting into a new harmonious Synthesis that reconciles the contradiction of Thesis and Antithesis.
See also; http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/cons-logic/summary.htm Summary of Dialectics
http://atheism.about.com/library/glossary/political/bldef_dialectical.htm dialectical materialism
And there is much more, if you wish to study this, but be aware that much of it is mind bending, to say the least. Into any search engine, put Marx and Dialectics and let the fun begin. However, much of that is not neccessary to understand what is being done to America, and by whom.
From the post, Thesis, antithesis, síntesis;
What were the specific plans of this New World Order? Nesta Webster, writing in her book, "World Revolution", listed the following six (6) goals:
Abolition of Monarchy and all ordered Government Abolition of Private Property
Abolition of Inheritance
Abolition of Patriotism
Abolition of the family (i.e., of marriage and all morality, and the institution of the communal education of children) [My Note: "Communal education of children" refers to State run public education].
Abolition of all religion (Page 22)
NOTE; You do remember the quote by George Bush about the New World Order, right?
"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge.... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." - September 11, 1990 televised address: President George H. W. Bush -
Or, perhaps, you missed this one as well;
"[The Gulf Crisis] has to do with a new world order. And that new world order is only going to be enhanced if, this newly activated peace-keeping function of the United Nations proves to be effective." - January 9, 1991 Press Conference President George H. W. Bush -
Here is the problem in a nutshell, from Weishaupt's viewpoint. He wanted badly to destroy the Western governments, replacing them with one new global government, called the New World Order. But, how do you get from Point A to Point B? How does one thoroughly, gradually change every single aspect of every Western nation, moving them from freedom into slavery, without the citizens of these countries finding out your Plan, and forcing their governments to attack and destroy you?
From here, we could get into a discussion of secret societies and many, many other time consuming things..... but none of this is neccessary to understand what is being done to America. So please, follow along for a bit.
The basic discussion revolves around control of options, and this is where Thesis, antithesis, and synthesis come in.
Let us say that you have a Thesis. For instance, America, with a largely white Christian population, pretty much free, rich, no debt, and not inclined to be involved in other people's problems or fights.
To gain synthesis (see quotes of George Bush Sr. above, please), you need to bring in antithesis. Start with the Civil War. Now note something here, please. The Civil War was a long time ago, so what we are talking about is something that takes place over many, many years, and, yes, generations. It is a plan that is followed, RELIGIOUSLY. You need to keep this in mind.
So, the Civil War, destruction of the barrier between blacks and whites. For reference, see the post under immigration; A History of the White Race And, please, do not go there; I am not a racist and can pretty well prove it. This is about facts, and how the law was established and how it is being attacked.
Beginning of the friction between competeting forms of citizenship; see 13th and 14th Amendments.
Spanish American War. Not neccessary, but Americans are introduced to the idea of fighting others for..... whatever. Don't worry, the media will keep us filled in.
Time goes on, and things happen. We come to 1913, and the Federal Reserve Act, establishing a privately owned central bank for the United States, and a method to print unlimited credit. NOT all at once; these things take time to be accepted and work their way through a society. BUT, by controlling the media, debate about these things are limited to... this, or that... thus assuring that whatever choice is made, it falls into the plan moving forward towards a New World Order.
WWI. Americans die in Europe. Lots of things have been written about how America was tricked into this war.
Great Depression. Man-made. Completely changed how America was permitted to view money and government interference in their lives.
1930s. Destruction of all banking outside of the Federal Reserve system. Stealing of gold from the people. Socialization of America begins.
Beginning of the implenmentation of the Communist Manifesto in America.
Beginning of the loss of 25 million family farms in America (see; communist Manifesto).
Beginning of the explosive growth of the insurance industry in America, mostly through required insurance (car and to cover debt).
Beginning of the explosive growth of debt, and inflation.
Beginning of the absolute control of education in America by Washington, DC (see; Communist Manifesto).
Many, many more things can be listed here as largely beginning, or greatly speeded up, in the 1930s.
WWII. Another false war. Much more is now being written about this and how it was planned for many, many years, prior to 1939.
Korean War. Started from Washington, DC (I have posted this info on 4um).
Again, at this point, review the two quotes from George bush, Sr. It is helpful in understanding what was/is happening.
1965. Watershed year. See the post; Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
From this year on, the antithesis begins to speed up. And, you can check this for yourself;
Porm comes into its own (I have done a post on control of the porn industry by Jews).
Control of the media is more and more openly ackowledged to be in the hands of the Jews. Many of the movies of today would have been X-rated in 1965.
Immigration begins to split America apart.
More and more industry leaves America, as taxes continue to climb and climb; now, accumlative taxes within the US are admitted to be in excess of 85%.
Please understand that what I have written here has been covered in countless books, and thousands, nay, tens of thousands of pages of material written by countless dedicated men and women who have tried to warn us as to what is happening/going to happen.
Well, it is happening, now, today, and tomorrow.
And, you, the United States citizen, is being led by the nose. How? By limiting and controling your choices and your vision. Not that hard to do.
Which is it? Republican, or, Democrat? And interpersed with this is all of the info you could wish to have on new cars and the latest sports craze.
Why aren't there good jobs in America? It's those damn illegal immigrants! And interpersed with this is all of the info you could wish to have on new credit cards and the latest HOT NEWS from Hollywood. As long as you do not look too closely at who is responsible for the immigrants. (See the post; Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.)
Why are there so many drugs in America? It's those damn gangs! From Mèxico! And interpersed with this is all of the info you could wish to have on sports-man-of-the-minute and the latest reality show. Just as long as you do not look at who really imports the drugs and where the gangs really started, and why. (See the posts; Street Gangs of Los Angelas & CIA and Drugs.)
I could go on, but perhaps you begin to get some of the picture. This is not about Mèxico, and it is not about those poor SOBs trying to cross the border. You can kill everyone of them and nothing will change, because the problem is in, and always has been in, Washington, DC, New York, and London. And the problems are brought to you through those areas by one group; the Jews.
Pay attention now!
"It was only after World War II that immigration law was drastically changed...In one of the first pieces of evidence of its political coming of age, the Jewish community had a leadership role in effecting those changes." (Earl Raab, Jewish Bulletin, July 23, 1993, p. 17)
The 'abolition of racial exclusiveness,' which has (also) been official U.S. Government policy since 1945, was, quite simply, the Jewish Marxist goal of planned genocide of the White Race, because the White Race remained the only possible opposition to the total domination of the world by international Jewish Marxism. No African or Asiatic nation has ever mounted a successful counter-revolution against a Communist regime, nor have they ever desired to. (Cincinnatus, Foreword, War! War! War!)
"The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world...It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148).
"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essential nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Harry Waton, p. 138).
'The god of the Jews had been secularized and has become the god of this world,' Marx wrote. 'Money is the jealous god of the Jews, beside which no other god may stand.' Once the Revolution succeeds in 'destroying the empirical essence of Christianity, he promised, 'the Jew will become the rulers of the world. This early Marxist formulation is the transparent seed of the mature vision, causing Paul Johnson to characterize Marxism as 'the antichristian of the intellectuals.'
The international Communist creed that Marx invented is a creed of hate. The solution that Marx proposed to the Christian 'problem' was to eliminate the system that 'creates' the Christian. The Jews, he said, 'are only symptoms of a more extensive evil that must eradicate capitalism. The Jews are only symbols of a more pervasive enemy that must be destroyed; capitalists.'
In the politics of the left, racist hatred is directed not only against Christian capitalists but against all capitalists; not only against capitalists, but anyone who is not poor, and who is White; and ultimately against Western Civilization itself. The Marxist revolution is antichrist elevated to a global principle." (David Horowitz, Human Events).
Note that here, in this statement, you see the most basic form of thesis and anti-thesis, HERE: eradicate capitalism ... Capitalism is an invention of the Jews.
Capitalism = thesis
Marxism = anti-thesis
New World Order = Synthesis
"The great ideal of Judaism is that the whole world shall be imbued with Jewish teachings, and that in a Universal Brotherhood of Nations a greater Judaism, in fact All the separate races and religions shall disappear." (Jewish World, February 9, 1883).
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html
Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples.
http://wake-up-america.net/BOOKS%20RESOURCES.htm
The New Jerusalem
Zionist Power in America
An eye opening look inside the American Zionist elite. A thorough, fact-filled comprehensive up-to-date overview. The New Jerusalem looks the the incredible wealth and power of the American Zionist community.
A detailed overview of some 200 major Zionist families, cold, hard facts and figures about Zionist wealth and power in America, the industries they dominate, their influence on the education system.
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The High Priests of War
Exposes the entire secret history of how America’s “Neo-Conservative” Trotskyites—a clique of fanatic pro- Israel intriguers— gained power and orchestrated the war against Iraq.
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They Dare to Speak Out
by Paul Findley
A carefully documented book with case histories that reveals the pervasive influence of the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) on American politics and policy Former congressman Paul Findley shows how the Israel lobby shapes important aspects of U.S. policy and brings to bear their influence in congressional and presidential elections. Describes the influence AIPAC has in the Senate and House and the pressure AIPAC brings on university professors and journalists who are too critical of Israel or too sympathetic to Arab and Islamic states. Discusses the lack of open debate among politicians with regard to the U.S. policy in the Middle East Draws connections between America's unconditional support of Israel and the raging anti-American passions in the Arab world.
Jewish Supremacism
by David Duke
I promise that this book will challenge you. Its amazing documentary evidence will confront some of your most cherished beliefs.
If you can put aside as best you can the prejudices you may have on this subject and even preconceptions you might have about me personally – you can more fairly evaluate the ideas and evidence in this book. That is all an author can ask of his reader; and I ask it of you. It is my earnest belief that if you endeavor to keep an open mind, what you read will surprise you.
This book comes from its documentation from major sources. In fact, you will quickly discover that most of my documents about Jewish Supremacism are from Jewish sources. They argue more convincingly for my point of view than anything I could write. I encourage you to go to the sources that I quote and check them out for yourself. In this book I take you along with me on a fascinating journey of discovery in a forbidden subject. I urge you to courageously keep an open mind while you explore the topics ahead, for that is the only way any of us can find the truth. David Duke
The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews
by The Nation of Islam
334 pages - 1,275 footnotes - More than 3,000 sources - Jewish journals, encyclopedias, newspapers & other publications - Jewish scholars & rabbis - Court records - Shipping records - Jewish wills - Runaway slave notices - Auction notices - Published sermons - Census data - Slave bills of sale - Tax records, Full Index - Bibliography - ISBN 0-9636877-0-0
http://www.davidduke.com/general/jewish-groups-behind-immigration-invasion_505.html
Jewish groups support immigration invasion
The (Jewish) Forward reveals that major Jewish organizations supported the recent pro-illegal alien march in Los Angeles and spearhead amnesty legislation.
Commentary by Dr. David Duke
Some European Americans suffer under the illusion that organized Jewish power in America is now an ally in our efforts to stop immigration and preserve the heritage and freedom of our American and European homelands. An article in one of the leading Jewish newspapers in the United States, The Forward, thoroughly crushes that illusion.
Aronoff of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
It shows that the organization that “tends to set policy for the Jewish community,” the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS), has been instrumental in supporting the new amnesty for illegal aliens legislation passed by Senate Judiciary Committee and opposing a contrary bill by Sen. Bill Frist. It also shows the great power and influence of the Jewish lobby on this vital issue. Finally, the article reveals how leading Jewish organizations backed the recent illegal alien march in Los Angeles.
Of course, none of this is new. As my book, Jewish Supremacism, thoroughly documents, the drive and movement to overturn protective American immigration policies of the last century have been so dominated by Jews that prominent Jewish organizations routinely label it a “Jewish movement.” My book, as well as Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s articles and papers, and numerous articles on http://www.davidduke.com thoroughly document this undisputed fact. ...
I could go on and on and on and on... but perhaps you get the picture. I hope so, because until you begin to address the real problems, ain't nothin going to change.
#1: richard9151 To: diana, robin, christine, Jethro Tull, innieway, kiki, wbales, lodwick, max, Phant2000, all, *CAFR* (#0)
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-21 15:59:18 Reply Private Reply
#2: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Hey, Jethro, think maybe this had something to do with why there were no police at the rally?
Or is it still your idea that there were no police because the illegal immigrants decided there would not be any there..... Is that it?
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-21 19:32:38 Reply Private Reply
#3: Jethro Tull To: richard9151 (#2)
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-21 20:48:53 Reply Private Reply
#4: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Appartently, more than you. I understand very well that a group of immigrants do not have the money nor the political pull to set up a march like that, and, if they did, they would not have the access to the media to get it hyped coast to coast.
And, they would not have the ability to see to it that the police did not bother them. And I know these things, without bothering to look for the info. Course, it also was not that hard to find the facts behind the march either.... all that it took was caring enough about facts to bother to check them for myself.
It is something you should try once in a while.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 00:03:15 Reply Private Reply
#5: Jethro Tull To: richard9151 (#4)
Let me say this in my very best Spanish....bullshit.
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-22 09:43:36 Reply Private Reply
#6: christine To: richard9151 (#4)
christine posted on 2007-06-22 09:52:40 Reply Private Reply
#7: Jethro Tull To: christine, all (#6)
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-22 10:01:45 Reply Private Reply
#8: Cynicom To: richard9151 (#4)
Richard...
Horse feathers...
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 10:05:22 Reply Private Reply
#9: Cynicom To: Jethro Tull (#7)
ANY time a wordsmith inserts the term "dialectics" into their ranting, a reader may be sure there is a full load of horse feathers to follow.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 10:10:11 Reply Private Reply
#10: Jethro Tull To: Cynicom (#9)
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-22 10:25:52 Reply Private Reply
#11: Cynicom To: Jethro Tull (#10)
My Father was a man of few words.
Being a polite listener, he would listen to most "dialectic" rants and at their conclusion (if it ever came) he would exclaim "horseshit" if my Mother was not around, otherwise it was horse feathers. Either way, we knew he was not buying.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 10:36:06 Reply Private Reply
#12: richard9151 To: christine (#6)
You said it yourself, Christine. I did not.
And, of course, everything that we are fed from the media is the truth, nothing but the truth, so help them god, right?
Tell you what, what don't you go to the link in the story about who organized and financed the rally, and learn a little.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 12:58:57 Reply Private Reply
#13: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, christine, all (#7)
If you think that the illegal immigrants are the only problem that is facing America, then you are even dumber than I thought, Jethro.
And if any of you would bother to study this subject rather than simply blather about it, then you would begin to understand....... maybe.
Any of you bother to read the post, Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965?
No, didn't think so. Painful to learn, is it not? Or, how about;
Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States
THE UNITED STATES POPULATION IN TRANSITION
A History of the White Race
Let me see; flood America with non-white immigration..... and then I am supposed to, somehow, ONLY speak of the illegals. Neat trick, that..... do any of you think at all, or, just react to what is fed to you on the TV?
That is like me somehow believing, all evidence to the contrary not-with- standing, that the illegals have built a political movement that is capable of puting together a march like the one in LA.
I see all the posts done in 4um moaning about all them 'illegals' living 10 to a house, living in garages, many without electricity, others without water, needing to use hoses outside to bath and etc. etc. etc. Then you come up with this kind of horseshit, AFTER you are given the links to reasearch who actually paid for and organized the march!!
Tell me something, all three of you, after you make such comments, do you really expect that anyone is going to take anything you say seriously?
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 13:10:19 Reply Private Reply
#14: christine To: richard9151 (#13)
christine posted on 2007-06-22 13:20:42 Reply Private Reply
#15: richard9151 To: christine (#14)
I have never once said that they are coming to get a better life. NOT ONCE. They come to work, and, most of them hope to go home again, cause they do not have a good life in the US.
There is a certain percentage of them that do stay, and that percentage is getting bigger and bigger, because of deliberate programs started by the government to encourage them to stay.
I have said it before, for months down here, I could not open Yahoo without a pop-up showing on my screen screaming at me, in English and Spanish, to get in line for a green card lottery; 50,000 of them THIS MONTH!!
And why do you not get a clue, Christine. Do you really believe that the only immigration problem is the Mèxicans?! You really listen to way too much TV if you do. Why don't you whip a study on the street gangs, Christine, like the posts I put up about the CIA and the guns and drugs that they feed to the gangs.
There are some very interesting stories about the black movements and the Jewish influence behind them.... so I am to suppose that such influence is ONLY for the blacks (see the link in this story from the Nation of Islam), and they are not doing the same things with the Latino radicals.... AND SEEING TO IT THAT THEY ARE THE ONES ON THE TV, IN THE PRINT, AND TALKED ABOUT ON THE RADIO.
Takes you a long time to begin to catch on, don't it, Christine.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 13:33:44 Reply Private Reply
#16: Cynicom To: richard9151 (#13)
richard...
I am researching to see if any third world country is all or nearly all white.
Maybe you can help me out on that?
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 14:09:45 Reply Private Reply
#17: Red Jones To: Cynicom (#16)
Moldavia in southeast europe is white & extremely poor. So is albania. Ukraine in northeast europe used to be (80 years ago) pretty advanced and equivalent to the west european nations. But the communist experience changed all that. Ukraine may be advanced in some ways, but as of just 3-4 years ago many people in Ukraine were making $25 a month in pay.
Bulgaria, Chech Republic, Slovak Republic, Romania, Georgia
the way it is over there - the pay they can make is so low on our standards, but some of those countries have great domestic food supplies, so they actually consume pretty good quality food some of them, but when you exchange their money to our money they have practically nothing.
Red Jones posted on 2007-06-22 14:17:49 Reply Private Reply
#18: Cynicom To: Red Jones (#17)
I have a friend that travels that area now that the Russians are gone.
He sends me many photos and the poverty is readily visible. His estimate for a recovery time for them is another 50 years.
Oddly enough during his travels in Russia, the countryside there is just as poverty stricken.
So much for Communism. Slavery by force of arms did not work. Now the people have to start over again.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 14:26:04 Reply Private Reply
#19: richard9151 To: Cynicom (#16)
Don't believe so, although a number of the eastern European nations are probably close on both counts. BUT, perhaps, if you bother to read the four posts;
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States
THE UNITED STATES POPULATION IN TRANSITION
A History of the White Race
Preferably in the presented order, you may get some kind of idea as to WHY the move was made to flood the US with non-white immigration..... and I am not speaking of illegal immigration.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 15:25:19 Reply Private Reply
#20: richard9151 To: Cynicom (#18)
I am curious, Cyni, what do you believe, that the communists just picked up their marbles and went home? If you read enough about the so-called great thinkers of the communist movement, all of them said that, basically, communism is just a stepping stone to the final 'government.' Now, maybe, just maybe, if you pay some attention to what they are saying, and what is happening today, in America and all over Europe, you may begin to catch on. Or, perhaps not. Who knows? But try reading the following, as repeated from this post;
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The 'abolition of racial exclusiveness,' which has (also) been official U.S. Government policy since 1945, was, quite simply, the Jewish Marxist goal of planned genocide of the White Race, because the White Race remained the only possible opposition to the total domination of the world by international Jewish Marxism. No African or Asiatic nation has ever mounted a successful counter-revolution against a Communist regime, nor have they ever desired to. (Cincinnatus, Foreword, War! War! War!)
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"The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world...It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148).
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"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essential nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Harry Waton, p. 138).
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'The god of the Jews had been secularized and has become the god of this world,' Marx wrote. 'Money is the jealous god of the Jews, beside which no other god may stand.' Once the Revolution succeeds in 'destroying the empirical essence of Christianity, he promised, 'the Jew will become the rulers of the world. This early Marxist formulation is the transparent seed of the mature vision, causing Paul Johnson to characterize Marxism as 'the antichristian of the intellectuals.' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, do you even know what a communist is? That communism is socialism at the point of a gun, while Marxism is socialism through dialectic thought and movement? Cause if you do not understand that, then you have a tough row ahead of you.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 15:32:52 Reply Private Reply
#21: Jethro Tull To: richard9151, christine, cynicom, all (#12)
Pawns in a losing game: a network of veteran, hardcore Marxists organized the May 1st immigration protests and boycotts. While thousands of immigrants did march, the boycott failed, and polls say the American public is now even more strongly against general amnesty.
On May 1st, hundreds of thousands of demonstrators filled the streets of American cities from coast to coast. In Chicago alone, an estimated 300,000 protesters joined in what organizers called the "Great American Boycott of 2006" or "A Day Without Immigrants," to protest proposed legislation aimed at enforcing our borders and to call for the legalization of millions of illegal aliens. Similar huge demonstrations materialized in Los Angeles and New York, and many smaller rallies and marches--ranging in size from hundreds of participants to tens of thousands--took place in dozens of American communities. The demonstrators--mostly illegal aliens, and largely Mexican--hoped to demonstrate their impact on the American economy by encouraging people to skip work and school and to boycott all economic activity for the day.
One of the boycott organizers, Nativo Lopez, of the Mexican American Political Association (MAPA), said this action would show that illegal aliens have the power "to stop the system." NEWSFLASH: the boycott did not stop the system; the system barely blinked. One thing the boycott and the attendant mass demonstrations appear to have done is to turn many more Americans against the cause espoused by the demonstrators. This was already apparent after the huge demonstrations of March and April.
According to a poll by Zogby International released on April 28, for instance, "Three in five adults--61%--said that the recent protests had made them less likely to be sympathetic toward undocumented workers." The poll found that "even among Hispanics, the impact of the protests was far from positive." It also found Hispanics evenly divided, with 46 percent saying they were more likely to be sympathetic and the same percentage saying they were less likely to be sympathetic. Significantly, nearly a third of these same Hispanics--31 percent--said they were "much less likely" to be sympathetic, as a result of the protests.
This divide among Hispanics--including both U.S. citizens and illegal aliens--increased with the May Day demonstrations. "There would be a backlash against all of the positive energy that was created," said Linda Aneola of the Office for Social Ministry of the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego, which has supported amnesty for illegal aliens. "The message would be one that immigrants really don't want to be part of America, and that what they are really doing is hurting the U.S., and that would be hurting the movement."
A Zogby poll released just after the May 1 boycott seems to bear out those fears, showing that the demonstrations have heightened America's concerns about our borders and national security. While 37 percent of voters said the war in Iraq is one of the top two issues facing the nation, immigration tied with the war on terrorism for second place, with each of those issues cited as a top concern by 32 percent of voters.
Who's Calling the Shots?
To go by news accounts and commentary in the major media, it would seem that the series of mass demonstrations that began on March 25 and culminated on May 1 were spontaneous events, the impromptu outpourings of anger and frustration by mistreated and unappreciated "undocumented workers." However, anyone who has ever organized a church picnic or a carpool, let alone a rally or a speaking event, knows that it takes a great deal of planning and effort to get successful participation. Turning out and coordinating over a million people to march simultaneously in 75-100 cities, with participants carrying the same professionally pre-printed signs and banners (in Spanish and English), chanting the same slogans, and delivering the same scripted speeches, is a major organizational and logistical triumph.
It is worth asking, then, who is behind the planning and organizing of these events and what their objectives and agenda are. These mass mobilizations are unprecedented, in that the majority of the participants are foreigners-- illegal migrants, not immigrants. Most do not speak English and many are illiterate in their own language. Many of the demonstrators carried Mexican flags along with banners proclaiming that this is their land--stolen from them by the gringos.
One of their unifying rally cries is "No to H.R. 4437," a demand that Congress not enact legislation already passed by the House to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws. If Congress does pass this desperately needed legislation, will the now-organized demonstrators turn into violent mobs? Will they turn the streets of America into scenes of rioting and bloodshed, as immigrant Muslim mobs recently have done in France, Belgium, Germany, and other countries of Europe? There is good reason to believe that the organizers of the demonstrations would like to do just that. After all, this country has experienced violent demonstrations and riots in the past, particularly during the 1960s but also more recently in connection with the initial Rodney King verdict. But this time the demonstrators are mostly illegal aliens who do not have the same stake in this country as U.S. citizens.
The major media have preferred to completely ignore the fact that the organizational brainpower and manpower for the illegal alien rallies has been provided by a network of veteran, hard-core Marxists. They are not merely liberals; they are dedicated revolutionaries, many with long ties to U.S. communist parties and communist dictatorships around the world. They are not merely a few radicals on the fringes of the demonstrations, but rather key officials who are leading the charge. One of the most openly visible Marxist-Leninist connections involves the Workers World Party (WWP), a very militant communist party that for decades has unwaveringly supported communist dictatorships throughout the world.
Top officials of the WWP dominate the ANSWER Coalition, one of the principal groups sponsoring and organizing the demonstrations. Most notable in this regard is Brian Becker, ANSWER's national coordinator, who is also a member of the national secretariat of the WWR Another WWP leader at ANSWER is Deidre Griswold Stapp, editor of the Workers World newspaper. Stapp was trained in Cuba in the 1960s and '70s as a member of the Venceremos Brigades, an important adjunct of Fidel's Tri- continental terrorist training apparatus. Still another WWP veteran in ANSWER's leadership is Andy McInerney, a staff writer for the Workers World. WWP organizers and ANSWER's yellow and black signs (in Spanish and English) calling for full amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. have been prevalent in the demonstrations from coast to coast. These WWP cadres are not mere functionaries at ANSWER, but policymakers. Likewise for another militant comrade in ANSWER's top leadership, Macrina Cardenas, head of Mexicans Without Borders, who is one of the often-quoted spokespersons for the illegal alien demonstrations. Cardenas has aligned her organization with the communist EZLN "Zapatista Army" of Mexico and has marched in solidarity with EZLN chief "Subcommandante Marcos." Cardenas refers to her forces as a "reserve army" within the United States.
ANSWER's Marxist pedigree and its heavy-handed tactics are alienating even many of the leftist ideologues among the open border advocates. The push by ANSWER and other hard-core Marxists for school walk-outs especially angered many Hispanic parents, who know that education is vital for their children's future and who resent their children being used as political footballs.
The Center for Community Change (CCC) is one of the most important official sponsors of the illegal alien demonstrations and its website was the official host for the April 10 demonstrations. The CCC is one of many revolutionary front groups founded by Saul Alinsky, a professional Marxist who trained hundreds of the cadres currently leading the agitation against immigration reform. His books Rules for Radicals and Reveille for Radicals are still required reading for activists of the CCC and its extended network of Alinsky alumni.
CCC activists work openly and closely with members of the violent Communist Workers Party and well-known agents of Communist China, such as Margaret Chinn and Mae Lee, both of whom are active leaders in the CCC's Fair Immigration Reform Movement (FIRM). The CCC's board of directors includes former SDS leader Heather Booth, who helped lead the violent student riots in the 1960s, and former Congressman Ron Dellums, long one of Fidel Castro's closest friends and staunchest supporters.
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) has been in the forefront of the "Chicano movement" for the past five decades, and many of the top leaders of both radical and "mainstream" Chicano/Latino organizations have been either members or close working allies of the CPUSA. This includes well-known leaders of the demonstrations for illegal alien "rights," such as: Jose Angel Gutierrez, Delores Huerta, Bert Corona, Corky Gonzalez, Nativo Lopez, Mario Obledo, Evalina Alarcon, Reies Tijerina, and many others.
The recent mass demonstrations are the culmination of over a decade of intensive planning, organizing, and building by revolutionary Marxists, including all of the significant U.S. communist parties: Communist Party USA, Socialist Workers Party, Workers World Party, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, and the Committees of Correspondence. These huge mobilizations were preceded by and made possible by thousands of smaller rallies, marches and organizing events over the past decade directed by these parties and their seasoned cadres. These predecessor events include the mass rallies in California against Proposition 187 (beginning in 1994) and the national mobilization known as the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride in 2003--and many similar actions in between.
The leadership positions of the National Council of La Raza, LULAC, MEChA, MAPA, CASA, MALDEF, and many of the other leading Hispanic political organizations are peppered with these revolutionary Marxist members, as are the major labor unions--AFL-CIO, United Auto Workers, the Service Employees International Union, and the Teamsters--which have increasingly favored illegal aliens at the expense of their worker members who are American citizens. One of the subversive goals of these radical Hispanic groups is to register millions of illegal aliens to vote, a task they are already proudly (and illegally) undertaking. Many of them openly admit that their goal is "La Reconquista" (the reconquest), dismembering and retaking the southwestern portion of the United States, which they say was stolen from them. They call this region "Aztlan."
May Day Solidarity
Interestingly, sympathetic demonstrations protesting U.S. efforts at immigration reform also took place on May 1st throughout Latin America, in, for instance: Mexico City, Mexico; Quito, Ecuador; Bogota, Colombia; Caracas, Venezuela; Havana, Cuba; Guatemala City, Guatemala; and San Salvador, E1 Salvador. Many of these demonstrations were decidedly anti-American and besides encouraging a one-day boycott of American goods included acts of burning the American flag. These Latin American demonstrations not only coincided with communist May Day celebrations, but most of them were led by various communist and socialist parties and veteran communist organizers.
Is it merely coincidence that the organizers of the "Great American Boycott" chose May Day as the culminating day of their months-long series of escalating marches and demonstrations? That is highly unlikely, since many of the key organizers of the events are longtime veterans of communist May Day celebrations and are well aware of the psychological impact that could be achieved, especially among the target audience of illegal aliens, by emphasizing their solidarity with communist "worker" rallies throughout the world. On the major Spanish-language television broadcasters Telemundo and Univision, illegal aliens in the United States could watch alternating demonstrations in Chicago and Havana, Beijing and Los Angeles, Berlin and Dallas. The not-so-subtle message: we have strength because Fidel Castro and communists throughout Latin America and the world are marching in solidarity with us.
Of course, most illegal aliens--Mexican or otherwise--are not communist party members or even conscious sympathizers. However, the professional revolutionaries know that people don't need to be fervent communists in order to be used for communist ends. They are experts at organizing people around a volatile issue and then scientifically directing the mobs with well-placed and well-trained agents. They are following the same formula they have successfully exploited for decades: "organize, mobilize, radicalize, and militarize."
Because communism has never achieved the level of acceptability in America that it has in many other countries, communist organizers in the United States have usually preferred to stay in the background and operate through, "united front" coalitions to hide their true colors. But without the leadership, organizational skills, and manpower of the hard-core Marxists, it is fairly certain that the "Great American Boycott"--and the demonstrations that preceded it--would have failed to turn out the huge numbers that they did.
The Marxist organizers and leaders behind this new mass movement do not have the best interests of the United States at heart. They are exploiting our continuing failure to secure our borders, as well as the fears of illegal aliens, in the hope of building a militant "fifth column" within our country. As outside agitators, they are really an artificial layer of leadership upon the masses of unsuspecting illegal migrants and law-abiding immigrants, and their plans for violent change cannot succeed so long as they are widely exposed.
Funding the Illusion of Revolution
It can be said that without the Ford Foundation's commitment to a strategy of national and local institution- building, the Chicano movement would have withered away in many areas.
--Henry Santiestevan, former head of the Southwest Council of La Raza
Contrary to press accounts, the massive demonstrations by illegal aliens during March, April, and May of 2006 were not spontaneous events that materialized from grass-roots efforts by "undocumented workers" angry and frustrated over "unjust" U.S. immigration laws. Getting more than a million people into the streets in synchronized demonstrations in dozens of cities, with identical signs, banners, chants and speeches, is the hallmark of meticulous organization, not spontaneity. The militant marches and rallies by huge mobs of illegal aliens were sponsored, organized, scripted, and directed by a network of left-wing organizations that, combined, provide thousands of full-time, paid, professional organizers.
Who pays the salaries of these revolutionary staff members? Who pays for the thousands of rented buses that transport many of the marchers to the events? Who pays for the signs, T-shirts, flags, food, and beverages that are dispensed to the demonstrators? The money trail often leads back to the tax- exempt Ford Foundation.
Over the past five decades, the Ford Foundation has poured tens of millions of dollars into radical Hispanic organizations that have been leading the surging Latino immigrant and migrant populations in the United States in an ever more revolutionary leftist direction. Many of these organizations and campaigns funded by Ford have actually been launched by leaders of the Communist Party USA; the communist Workers World Party; the communist-front National Lawyers Guild; and other well-known subversive organizations.
In his important 1994 study, Importing Revolution: Open Borders and the Radical Agenda, William R. Hawkins fully documents the decades-long march of the Ford-funded revolutionaries. More than 20 years ago, in its 1984 working paper, "Hispanics: Challenges and Opportunities," Ford outlined its plan for the "continuing development of a leadership cadre" among Hispanics.
The Ford Foundation is not alone in funding this revolution; the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Endowment, the Rosenberg Foundation, George Soros, Bill Gates, and other philanthropic sources have joined in this effort. The Center for Community Change (CCC), for instance, is one of the main national sponsors of the illegal alien demonstrations. Launched by Marxist organizer Saul Alinsky, the CCC lists the Ford Foundation as a major source of its funding. Your tax dollars also fund these illegal alien campaigns, through tens of millions of dollars in grants from federal agencies to organizations such as the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund and the Southwest Voter Education Registration Project.
Ford Foundation grants in 2005 to groups involved in this year's demonstrations include $350,000 to the Center for Community Change, $130,000 to the Northern California Grantmakers, $1,000,000 to the Migration Policy Institute, and two grants totaling $1,700,000 to the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund.
"The large Hispanic population is bound to produce leaders," says William Hawkins in Importing Revolution. "The natural pattern would be for these leaders to come from the ranks of successful Hispanic entrepreneurs and professionals. Such a leadership class, like the Hispanic leaders of times past, would tend toward middleclass values, moderate politics, the work ethic, and integration. However, this is not the kind of leadership the Ford Foundation and its left-wing clientele want."-- WILLIAM F. JASPER
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-22 15:35:56 Reply Private Reply
#22: Cynicom To: richard9151 (#20)
richard...
Firstly and most importantly, I believe in brevity.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 15:42:14 Reply Private Reply
#23: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull, Red Jones, lodwick, robin, max, Phant 2000, eoghan, einneway, all (#21)
And your point, Jethro? See the following from my post;
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
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"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essential nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Harry Waton, p. 138).
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"The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world...It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148).
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"It was only after World War II that immigration law was drastically changed...In one of the first pieces of evidence of its political coming of age, the Jewish community had a leadership role in effecting those changes." (Earl Raab, Jewish Bulletin, July 23, 1993, p. 17
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The 'abolition of racial exclusiveness,' which has (also) been official U.S. Government policy since 1945, was, quite simply, the Jewish Marxist goal of planned genocide of the White Race, because the White Race remained the only possible opposition to the total domination of the world by international Jewish Marxism. No African or Asiatic nation has ever mounted a successful counter-revolution against a Communist regime, nor have they ever desired to. (Cincinnatus, Foreword, War! War! War!)
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http://www.davidduke.com/general/jewish-groups-behind-immigration- invasion_505.html
Jewish groups support immigration invasion
The (Jewish) Forward reveals that major Jewish organizations supported the recent pro-illegal alien march in Los Angeles and spearhead amnesty legislation.
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Note this Jethro; Jewish groups support immigration invasion
This is how the statement should read;
JewishMarxist groups support immigration invasionrichard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 15:48:11 Reply Private Reply
#24: richard9151 To: Cynicom (#22)
Obviously, we disagree.....
And, does that extend to your reading as well?
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 15:49:10 Reply Private Reply
#25: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull (#21)
Jeez. I had to go back and read that more carefully! Actually, one hell of an article! Thanks, Jethro, I had to save this to my puter!
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 15:51:50 Reply Private Reply
#26: richard9151 To: christine, cynicom, Jethro Tull, all (#0)
Who's Calling the Shots?
To go by news accounts and commentary in the major media, it would seem that the series of mass demonstrations that began on March 25 and culminated on May 1 were spontaneous events, the impromptu outpourings of anger and frustration by mistreated and unappreciated "undocumented workers." However, anyone who has ever organized a church picnic or a carpool, let alone a rally or a speaking event, knows that it takes a great deal of planning and effort to get successful participation. Turning out and coordinating over a million people to march simultaneously in 75-100 cities, with participants carrying the same professionally pre-printed signs and banners (in Spanish and English), chanting the same slogans, and delivering the same scripted speeches, is a major organizational and logistical triumph. ......
(HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!! Told ya so! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)
... The recent mass demonstrations are the culmination of over a decade of intensive planning, organizing, and building by revolutionary Marxists, including all of the significant U.S. communist parties: Communist Party USA, Socialist Workers Party, Workers World Party, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, and the Committees of Correspondence. These huge mobilizations were preceded by and made possible by thousands of smaller rallies, marches and organizing events over the past decade directed by these parties and their seasoned cadres. These predecessor events include the mass rallies in California against Proposition 187 (beginning in 1994) and the national mobilization known as the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride in 2003--and many similar actions in between.
The leadership positions of the National Council of La Raza, LULAC, MEChA, MAPA, CASA, MALDEF, and many of the other leading Hispanic political organizations are peppered with these revolutionary Marxist members .....
....Of course, most illegal aliens--Mexican or otherwise--are not communist party members or even conscious sympathizers. However, the professional revolutionaries know that people don't need to be fervent communists in order to be used for communist ends. They are experts at organizing people around a volatile issue and then scientifically directing the mobs with well-placed and well-trained agents. They are following the same formula they have successfully exploited for decades: "organize, mobilize, radicalize, and militarize." ...
..... , as well as the fears of illegal aliens, in the hope of building a militant "fifth column" within our country. As outside agitators, they are really an artificial layer of leadership upon the masses of unsuspecting illegal migrants and law-abiding immigrants, and their plans for violent change cannot succeed so long as they are widely exposed. .... (Which is what I do!)
....Who pays the salaries of these revolutionary staff members? Who pays for the thousands of rented buses that transport many of the marchers to the events? Who pays for the signs, T-shirts, flags, food, and beverages that are dispensed to the demonstrators? The money trail often leads back to the tax- exempt Ford Foundation....
Ah, well, please, read all of the story. HELL OF A REPORT!
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http://www.davidduke.com/general/jewish-groups-behind-immigration- invasion_505.html
JewishMarxist groups support immigration invasionThe (Jewish) Forward reveals that major Jewish organizations supported the recent pro-illegal alien march in Los Angeles and spearhead amnesty legislation.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 16:25:43 Reply Private Reply
#27: christine To: richard9151 (#15)
you are insufferably arrogant. no one else on 4um has any experience or knowledge like you, do they, richardknowitall?
christine posted on 2007-06-22 16:36:02 Reply Private Reply
#28: richard9151 To: christine (#27)
That is probably true, and you are not the first to comment on it. As to how much others know, I seldom hit others because much of what is posted in 4um is accurate. However, christine, I hold you to a higher standard than I do others, and in large part that is because you are held in a higher esteem here than others are, for obvious reasons. That means, christine, that when you post something, others are more apt to accept it at face value, as true. And I have caught you posting non-sense at least twice, and on this same subject.
For that reason, christine, I will hold you accountable. YOU KNOW BETTER. You know to verify and check, even if others do not, and that means check, christine. If I make an error, christine, I expect to be held accountable for it. So should you. If that makes me arrogant, so be it. I can live with that. What I can not live with is if I post non-sense, and someone does not call me on it.
no one else on 4um has any experience or knowledge like you, do they, richardknowitall? As to this, one of the reasons that I post is to check my knowledge, and that is best done in a public forum where it is a free-for- all, and I will get called if I am in error. Best and fastest way to learn, even if on occasion it hurts. And there are a number of posters in 4um with at least my knowledge, and I suspect, more than I have. Some of them are not as forward and shy as I am, is all.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 16:47:40 Reply Private Reply
#29: Cynicom To: richard9151 (#24)
Disagree???
We cannot disagree on something I did not bother to read.
Brevity is something that is desirable. Endless epistles impress no one.
You have something to offer that interests many people, however, you are fast expending your capital of good will.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 16:52:58 Reply Private Reply
#30: richard9151 To: Cynicom (#29)
but be aware that much of it is mind bending, to say the least. Into any search engine, put Marx and Dialectics and let the fun begin
That was obvious from one of your earlier comments in this thread. If you had bothered, then you would have seen what I said about dialectics.
Brevity is something that is desirable. Esp. to people who desire little to no understanding of underlying currents that shape events, people and nations.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 17:37:11 Reply Private Reply
#31: Cynicom To: richard9151 (#30)
richard...
Son, you are about out of money.
Cynicom posted on 2007-06-22 17:39:33 Reply Private Reply
#32: richard9151 To: Jethro Tull (#10)
LOL! Care to compare houses, Jethro? Mine, by the way, if free and clear... and, has 2 1/2 baths, 3 bedrooms, a separate laundry (with NICE cabinets), a separate storage area, a separate commercial area attached that we use for our business (wholesale only), a separate work shop for me, and in addition, about another 3500 sq. ft that is walled up and we will roof, maybe, next year, depending on the supply of money, cause we do not borrow (Did I mention that all of this is paid for?). The new area will be for more work space as we expand our business. Oh, and the house and commercial area is air conditioned! And not only that, WE HAVE LIGHTS INSIDE!
Oh, and did I mention, it is paid for, Jethro?
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 18:30:52 Reply Private Reply
#33: richard9151 To: Cynicom (#31)
Hope so, Sillycom.
richard9151 posted on 2007-06-22 18:31:56 Reply Private Reply
#34: Jethro Tull To: richard9151 (#32)
Which one?
Jethro Tull posted on 2007-06-22 18:54:53 Reply Private Reply
#35: NeoconsNailed To: Jethro Tull (#34)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4lOeu- P_2Y
NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-03-18 23:17:40 Reply Private Reply
#36: Lod To: NeoconsNailed (#35)
Lod posted on 2016-03-19 00:09:28 Reply Private Reply
#37: NeoconsNailed To: Lod (#36)
Oh, that's right -- we're the NOW generation. Nothing more than a week old is Relevant!
www.press.uchicago.edu /Misc/Chicago/644839.html
NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-03-19 00:13:59 Reply Private Reply
#38: NeoconsNailed To: All (#37)
www.bitchute.com/ video/XNhHu8eAeUQ/
A fair to good job. The point is we must be ever vigilant against falling for the enemy's word games, much less taking them up ourselves. WORD GAMES ARE MIND GAMES and our civilization is being thrown away for fear of ONE idiotic contrived hateful word -- 'racism'!
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-06-19 14:30:07 Reply Private Reply
#39: NeoconsNailed To: Lod (#36)
See my #38 above ;)
Rightist truth is always current, because we're up against the same forces and issues decade after decade. The need for proper tactics and discernment is critical.
www.wtffunfact.com/wtf-fun-fact-ina-koenig/
NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-06-19 14:41:50 Reply Private Reply