Back in 2012, the US Supreme Court ruled that its illegal for the police to attach a GPS tracking device to someones car without a warrant. But what if you find a GPS tracking device on your car? Can you remove it?
A little more than a year ago, the state of Indiana charged a suspected drug dealer with theft for removing a government-owned GPS tracking device from his SUV. This month, the states Supreme Court began considering the case, and some justices seemed skeptical of the governments argument.
Im really struggling with how is that theft, said Justice Steven David during recent oral arguments.
One time in Warrick County
The case began in July 2018, when the Warrick County Sheriffs Office got a warrant to attach a GPS tracking device to Derek Heurings car. Information from a confidential informant had led them to believe that Heuring was using the vehicle to sell meth.
The GPS device transmitted data for a little more than a week. Then it stopped. Officers suspected Heuring had discovered and removed it.
After waiting another 10 days to see if it would start working again, detectives applied for a warrant to search Heurings home and a nearby property belonging to Heurings parents. US law requires law enforcement to show probable cause that a crime had been committed before engaging in a search. In this case, police said they suspected that Heuring had committed the crime of theft by taking the GPS device.
Police did find the tracking device. They also found methamphatamine and drug paraphernaliaevidence that police say show that Heuring had been dealing drugs.
So Heuring was charged both with drug dealing and with theft of the GPS device. Is it theft to remove a GPS tracking device?
At trial, Heurings legal team argued that the search had been illegal because the police didnt have probable cause to believe their client had committed theft. The defense pointed out that the device could have fallen off the car by accident or simply malfunctioned.
Even if Heuring did take the device off the vehicle, he couldnt have known for sure that it belonged to the government. It wasnt exactly labeled as the property of the Warrick County Sheriffs Office. Most important, its not clear that taking an unwanted device off your car is thefteven if you know who it belongs to.
#1: Lod To: Horse (#0)
How can it be theft if the device had been moved to a safer location?
Lod posted on 2019-11-19 22:52:40 Reply Private Reply
#2: Pinguinite To: Horse (#0)
What's theft is the extra gas the guy lost because the police added this extra bit of weight to the car for which he provided free transport. And if it was powered by his car, he can charge for that loss as well.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-11-19 23:45:58 Reply Private Reply
#3: Horse To: Pinguinite, Lod, (#2)
Horse posted on 2019-11-20 01:07:44 Reply Private Reply
#4: Pinguinite To: Horse (#3)
I certainly get that compelling interest on the part of the state to argue it was theft. If the court rules against them, not only does it invalidate the warrant and case against him, it also means that any time the state puts a tracker on a car, they they are taking a chance that it'll disappear with no recourse. It might even invalidate some prior convictions.
I don't see how the state can possibly win this one.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-11-20 02:37:42 Reply Private Reply
#5: noone222 To: Lod (#1)
(A). Because in this bizzaro world you and I own nothing. "THEY" own it all and if you so much as think you own it, you'll soon find out that you have stolen it or gained it by fraud.
(B). Vehicles are openly owned by the STATE. That's why you pay an annual fee to be able to use it without being charged with auto theft !
Ha hahaha ... the game is rigged.
noone222 posted on 2019-11-20 05:58:33 Reply Private Reply
#6: BTP Holdings To: noone222 (#5)
And that is why you need insurance, to protect the State from potential losses. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-11-20 06:50:25 Reply Private Reply
#7: Lod To: Pinguinite (#2)
Perfect.
Lod posted on 2019-11-20 10:31:11 Reply Private Reply