Richard Evelyn Byrd was born on 25 October 1888 in Winchester, Virginia.

There were a couple decent explanations...UNTIL I arrived at this blatant disinfo:

"It is possible to fly over South Pole as well. In 1977, PanAm 747Sp flew over South Pole while flying from Sydney to Recife. However, South Pole does not lie on the great circle route for too many points."

Two obvious lies.

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

But still the magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole. ;)

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

True, but supposedly today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism. (This is about to get over my pay grade.)

That makes it even more odd since Byrd was American.

Yes, American....

But remember -- Byrd was likely schooled in formal English; If you watched and listened to his Longines interview on his Antarctica missions, His language reflected that.

True, but supposedly today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism. (This is about to get over my pay grade.)

Heh -- It's already above ALL our "pay grade."

Yet...we'll do the best we can -- which often is MUCH better than The Lab Coats.

From everything I've read -- and yeah, toss Common Sense & Logic into that mix -- it's MAGNETISM issue that prevents North Pole air nav.

today's GPS is unaffected by magnetism.

GPS is not affected by magnetism since it uses satellites to pinpoint your position on the surface of Earth. ;)

the magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole. ;)

The magnetic North Pole is all that matters on a physical realm and contemporary mapping that is now heavily challenged.

GPS is not affected by magnetism since it uses satellites to pinpoint your position on the surface of Earth. ;)

a) "Satellites" if anything fly in VERY Low Orbit.

b) Given GPS (of both earthed base and Low Orbit "satellites") pinpoint positioning, we'd have to assume it's far more effective further away from Polar magnetic interference.

(rhetorical): Has anyone actually verified whether GPS works within 50 miles of the magnetic North Pole?

more byrd history and exploits - what an amazing explorer he was

www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-E-Byrd

Maybe I don't know how to use GM...

more byrd history and exploits - what an amazing explorer he was

Yup. Byrd was an absolute American legend. The guy was even celebrated down the "Canyon of Heroes" in a ticker-tape parade.

The US military thought so highly of him that he led FIVE expeditions to the Polar regions. (yes, too bad things ended badly/mysteriously.)

(listen briefly to Byrd from 8:07...)

"I think it's important...for us to explore that [Antarctica] area....important for the human race...TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THERE...."

(WE STILL DON'T KNOW. At least 99.9% of us)

**And btw -- WHY explore "Mars" if we still don't really know what lies at the interior of an unexplored Antarctica??**

Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.

Sheeeet.

Just imagine the Google Map SNAFU of Antarctica....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQTYb36Cew

If you notice within the scene -- and just as today -- the Scientists AND Military were joined at the hip.

The Martian "warning" spoke of "primeval slime" that mankind was said to have been borne; IT was and is still advancing the presumptive the Evolution Lie over the Creationist-Biblical Truth.

Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.

Maybe because there's no land mass, just ice there?

The magnetic North Pole is all that matters on a physical realm and contemporary mapping that is now heavily challenged.

Really? And have you tried to look up any information about how GPS works? ;)

www.quora.com/Does-GPS-us...netic-north-or-true-North

Great, great, stuff, especially your witness for Christianity.

Thanks, brutha. I appreciate the kind words and encouragement.

Knowledge is great, knowledge is essential, knowledge is important -- BUT, is Knowledge THE most important thing in our lives? (remember how Eve was convinced by the Serpent that it indeed WAS above all else?)

More than ever these days, I believe we desperately need to share our witnessing for His Word, His Truth. What is more important than that?

As we've grown older, our priorities should change. Whence in youth we are more about ego, reproduction, our life's work, and personal accomplishment; This invariably (should) give way to wisdom, selflessness, and refinement of our faith (and His Truth.)

As we age, many of us also experience the inevitable -- the death of family and close friends. For me personally, the grieving process has especially been challenging -- but heart/spirit changing experience. That's made it a blessing.

The grieving process also underscores how important it is that we understand how relatively brief our "trial period" by our Lord and Creator is -- as well as our respective "mission" it is to understand His Word and/or share our scriptural understanding of His Grace and Gospel *before* our/their "deadline."

As those we love pass on, it is a further critical reminder to do so before those we love and know check out into their "Forever Home." As you know there are no Second Chances.

(Google maps for North Pole pulled up a big blue screen here.)

Maybe because there's no land mass, just ice there?

Maybe. Maybe not. That's what we've been told, isn't it?

Why should the gummint(s) be relied on to be truthful about that when they obviously are not abut so much?

Esso...IF WE WANTED, the three of us still wouldn't even be able to conduct extensive research and investigation near the magnetic North Pole epicenter either.

Both the Arctic and (especially) Antarctic regions for some reason are considered largely verboten from independent research and exploration.

And have you tried to look up any information about how GPS works? ;)

Absolutely. (pretty convoluted, ain't it?)

At the Quora link, there are several divergent opinions and theories on just how GPS works. Quite a few from those considered in the "Science" field.

An odd claim has been made with respect to GPS reception in the deeper regions of the Southern Hemisphere. GPS is BLACKED OUT and doesn't work.

One theory/reason: GPS is mostly a land-based phenomena. In the vast stretch of the South Pacific, this claim might be valid.

GPS reception in the deeper regions of the Southern Hemisphere. GPS is BLACKED OUT and doesn't work.

That might have something to do with the positions of the satellites. ;)

"I am reminded that I am a Military Man and I must obey orders” -- isn't that wonderful? Soldier's honor so often means shutting up about things that have to be crucial to your fellow ameriKans. A bobby-soxer I know married an recruit who 'served' in the War Of Terror. I asked what he reported about his experience. "There's a lot he was ordered to keep silent about," she says in an awed tone.

"War crimes against women and children," I thoughtfully replied. People today don't give a crap whether their kin are war criminals -- if they ever did.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=cPCLFtxpadE

“I woke up as the sun was reddening; and that was the one distinct time in my life, the strangest moment of all, when I didn't know who I was - I was far away from home, haunted and tired with travel, in a cheap hotel room I'd never seen, hearing the hiss of steam outside, and the creak of the old wood of the hotel, and footsteps upstairs, and all the sad sounds, and I looked at the cracked high ceiling and really didn't know who I was for about fifteen strange seconds. I wasn't scared; I was just somebody else, some stranger, and my whole life was a haunted life, the life of a ghost.” ― Jack Kerouac, On the Road

from middle earth

Putting it in the first person now

www.youtube.com/watch? v=TlHaX55wG0Y

I hate the Cher-monster, but (am I repeating myself again) just looooooove her original Bang Bang record -- think it's a big little masterpiece, really do.

Are you a Beat or Kerouac fan? I'm not, but a great deal of my fave music embodies it. Sounds like the author was really stuck outside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again ;)

That might have something to do with the positions of the satellites. ;)

OR...not.

Hard to stick towers with dishes to depths of 18,000 ft the middle of the South Pacific. ;-)

(Cristina Ramos, 'Got Talent'...)

Whoa...

I guess this thread got slightly derailed off course...

(I'll post a Monkees video or photo of Helen Thomas if that helps da cause)

;-)

How many licks does it take take to get to the center of one's mind? (God bless crazy Uncle Ted!)

Better in color...

("...the message from the Master...")

Any ideas on who/what was/is "the Master?"

I'm re-reading some of Amadeo Giannini's book ('Worlds Beyond The Poles')...

He points out yet another theoretical definition or context of "Master" as Byrd mentioned the word.

"Master-Builder" -- as in, God.

(Very brief):

The Wilkins Antarctic Expedition:

https://www.south-pole.com/p0000106.htm

Meanwhile...

HERE is an excerpted account of Admiral Byrd's first Antarctic mission. You may find the details of the prep-logistics, struggles, and discoveries by Byrd's teams fascinating. Odd that they were conducted at nearly the very same time as Wilkins Team conducted theirs:

Byrd Antarctic Expedition I 1928-1930) *NOTE: (Assistance was provided for the selection of equipment by the US Navy, the New York Times and several corporations)

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/highjump/great_antarcticexpedition04.htm

....The Byrd Expedition was the first American expedition to explore Antarctica since the U. S. Exploring Expedition under Charles Wilkes in 1840. The expedition launched a revival of interest in the Antarctic for Americans, an area much in the public mind during the early 1800's.

The exploring expedition organized by Richard E. Byrd in 1928 may be considered the first of the mechanical age of exploration in Antarctica. The program was the first of its kind to utilize the airplane, aerial camera, snowmobile and massive communications resources.

Although Sir Hubert Wilkins, on November 6, 1928, was the first to fly an airplane in Antarctica, he preceded Byrd by only ten weeks. (Byrd first flew on January 15, 1929). However, Byrd's flights, made with three planes (Ford monoplane, Fokker Universal and a Fairchild monoplane), were much more significant than Wilkins since they were made in higher latitudes and were tied in with ground surveys....

.....With help from the booster on the Fairchild, the engines on the Ford tri-motor were started and together both planes arrived back at Little America about midnight.

At 3:29 p.m., on November 28,1929, the FLOYD BENNETT took off from Little America on its historic first-flight over the South Pole. With Byrd as navigator, Harold June as co-pilot and radio operator and McKinley as aerial photographer, the heavily loaded plane proceeded to climb towards the Queen Maud Mountains. For purposes of navigation, magnetic compasses were useless so close to the South Magnetic Pole....

(I find the very last sentence on "navigation" curious...because finding -- never mind assuming a "South Magnetic Pole" existed was never proven... and does not exist.)

For what it's worth, I don't know who the actual author of this account was.

I find this hollow earth theory far more believable than flat earth.

Why one but not the other?

If SOME our realm is purposely misrepresented or stuff hidden, why not ALL?

Q: Why self-impose limits, questions and assumptions of our physical realm altogether to begin with?

IF one prefers only to deal with Science instead of considering Biblical descriptions/claims, here we go...

500 years ago, neither globe-earth advocates Copernicus or Galileo explored OR were aware of the extent of the Earthly Realm. THEY ASSUMED -- based on mathematical calculations and principles.... THAT WERE WRONG. (Gerard Hickson challenges past theories and proves it WRONG. Like politicians, don't ever expect Theoretical Scientists or Astronomers to admit they are gaslighting us.)

In his incredible, eye-opening book -- 'KINGS DETHRONED' -- Gerard Hickson *documents* the history of the evolution of astronomy. He followed it from the time of the Roman Empire up to the date his book was published (1922)...

...then he examined, researched and detailed what he proved were a series of monumental miscalculations that began in the second century B.C.

Given once the very foundation and baseline computations of "Astronomy" was corrupted, would it follow that the REST of the calculations well into the 20th century would also be erroneous? (Oh yes, I highly recommend the book.)

https://www.amazon.com/Kings-dethroned-Hickson-Gerrard/dp/B01FA690L8

Because the institutional high priests of "Science" were in so deep in the mire, instead of re-calibrating the astronomical/cosmological truth, they stood pat -- refusing to admit the blunder. (MOREOVER...To do so might cause people to turn BACK to believing Scripture and Genesis on the descriptions of Earth & The Heavens again.)

We all know this corollary: "SCIENCE" NEVER ADMITS THEY ARE WRONG. (Q's: When are they going to also admit their so-called "BIG BANG" is just a kook-"theory"?? Same of the "4.5 Billion year old Earth" & "16 billion year old Universe." Same of their unproven "Evolution". YET...THEY PRESENT ALL THESE THEORIES S "FACT" in school text books, PBS, and Museums. (Why again must it be assumed as "Fact" that our Earth is a "Spinning-Globe"?? Hickson helps discredit that notion/assumption. Yes, yes...NASA. Nope.)

Back on point...

IF...IF 'Hollow Earth' is even possible (and who knows? ALL we have is the supposed testimony of the esteemed Admiral Byrd), it means this entire realm (as we've been programmed NOT to re-consider) needs to be questioned and challenged AS DOES the politics and agenda of Institutional Earth/Space Science and entire field of Astronomy.

The flaw there is that the speed of light has been measured and re-measured numerous times, and will likely be measured again as new tech tools and engineering allow. The science community is always interested in getting as precise measurements as possible in all things.

the moving magnetic poles

www.scientificamerican.co...re-the-earths-magnetic-p/

Is that Ted Nugent on lead gittar?

Yup. Far right. Playing like a boss. (traumatized snowflakes and liberals on the comments-thread still gnashing teef over Uncle Ted's politics.)

500 years ago, neither globe-earth advocates Copernicus or Galileo explored OR were aware of the extent of the Earthly Realm. THEY ASSUMED -- based on mathematical calculations and principles.... THAT WERE WRONG.

Prove it. You ASSUME a lot.

Heh -- It's already above ALL our "pay grade."

Don't be so pretentious as to claim the engineers who designed the GPS system weren't knowledgeable enough to understand what they were doing.

Concerning the shape of the earth and the fact it has a north and south pole, no.

NO aircraft is allowed to fly directly over the North Pole. THAT is correct and true info.

Prove it.

NO aircraft is allowed to fly over Antarctica (and especially its alleged "Pole".) FACT.

Prove it.

NASA was created in 1958 to help dispel any and all notions and challenges to the Heliocentric model, and of course -- THE spinning "GLOBE".

Wrong.

The civilized world has known the earth is a spherical planet orbiting the sun for over 500 years.

NASA was formed as a response to the Soviet space program that had just launched the first satellite into orbit, Sputnik.

There was a great fear that the Soviets would have a strategic and military advantage if the US didn't ramp up it's own space program and get a satellite, and later men, into orbit.

That's a lie.

The theory is the extreme magnetism emitted from the North Pole Area that could potentially affect electronic instrumentation.

Older auto pilot systems that used compass headings would fail when crossing over the pole. That problem has been eliminated with the GPS based autopilot.

Polaris, aka "The North Star" is always ascended directly above the North Pole. IT DOES NOT EVER MOVE POSITION.

So it's why it's used to determine direction using the stars for navigation. It's just because it happens to be the center point of the northern hemisphere of the celestial sphere.

In the southern hemisphere of earth the Southern Cross constellation is used instead (since it sits near the center of the southern celestial sphere) as Polaris is over the equator's horizon.

Hint:

What does this prove?

That indicates the earth is a sphere and its surface is obviously curved.

Two obvious lies.

Seems the only one lying here is you.

GPS is not affected by magnetism since it uses satellites to pinpoint your position on the surface of Earth. ;)

Liberator feels satellites are impossible, just how they used to think airplanes were impossible.

Some ORBIT in a low earth orbit, others don't, they travel in high orbits depending on their mission.

They don't "fly" as flying implies using lift to keep an aircraft in the air. In space there is no air.

BTW, I thought you didn't believe in satellites?

I actually did read through a few of the first chapters of that book.

Excellent...

If I understood correctly, the notion is that the speed of light was substantially miscalculated early on, and that therefore, all calcs based on that error are also very much wrong.

Not only miscalculations/errors on the speed of light, but on several other "established" dogmas of science and astronomy. The respective authors of many theories packaged as "Scientific Fact" are the science icons or "Kings" on whom the title of the book is ironically based.

Einstein's main mission, motives AND theories (including the Theory of Relativity) were specifically and thoroughly shredded. There are THREE entire chapters devoted to Einstein:

* EINSTEIN'S THEORIES EXAMINED
* EINSTEIN'S EVIDENCE
* RELATIVITY

I don't ask anyone to believe me. Only to research for yourself if you or others are so inclined

The flaw there is that the speed of light has been measured and re-measured numerous times, and will likely be measured again as new tech tools and engineering allow. The science community is always interested in getting as precise measurements as possible in all things.

There's no question that the goal of Science's "grunts" or researchers at the bottom to middle of the Science pyramid of influence are mostly honest & interested in precision.

But Ping -- at the top "they" already know the Truth. Their Elites just won't allow it or revelations that damage "Science" dogma to stand.

Precise measurement tools of both LIGHT and MOTION have already long been available. Science's (mostly Atheist) high priests have been sandbagging/hiding the Truth for far too long. Archaeology is another field that's been corrupted at the top.

The biggest casualty of Big-Science (a "religion" itself) -- and hijacking the entire field at the highest levels -- has been belief/faith in God.(see" 'Big Bang'/Evolution/Old Earth.) So yes, there has indeed been an MO, agenda at work.

(Btw -- do you believe the 'Science Community' at the High Echelon level is genuinely and actually, "always interested in getting as precise measurements as possible in all things."??)

If anything, the opposite agenda is proven to be in effect -- even on the painfully obvious.

Two quick (SJW) examples below expose the 'Science Community'. They even refuse to settle the definitive, honest science with "precision":

1) Gender
2) "Global Warming" aka "Climate Change" (without even considering the Chemtrail Effect)