I hate Israel because of what it has done and what it has promoted, including religious based supremacism reaching the point where torturing sodomy and genocide is actively condoned and promoted. This is not in dispute.

Some religions are not worthy of being protected. For example the Muslim satanist religion. Not a real religion.

Sodomy is not encouraged by the Israeli government. I'm sure Israel has bad people who do such things. They should be punished if the claim is actually true.

There is no genocide, if there was genocide they wouldn't give warnings before bombings and there would be 100 times more dead people. That is just anti western propaganda.

So it is in dispute because it is not true.

Israel's ambitions will not end with Gaza and the West Bank.

They will take back all the long God promised. They should not take one inch more.

It is going to happen. I know that because the Bible is true.

People can cry about it but it will happen.

Watch and see.

That you're too stupid to see that speaks volumes.

You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages.

You talk like a foreigner. If you are you should go back to your muslim hellhole.

If you are really an American you are a weird one. Very strange.

In 1917, Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote the Balfour Declaration. This document promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which at the time was an Ottoman area with a minority Jewish population.

This document was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island off the SE coast of Africa/ But they didn't want to hear that. The Jews wanted to go to Palestine.

The Havaara Agreement with a portion of their wealth that had been frozen in Germany. The rest of this wealth was used to purchase Reich farm equipment and other hard goods to break the Jewish boycott of German made goods when Judea Declares War on Germany.

All of this anti-Jewish activity in Germany came to a head with the murder of the Deputy Ambassador to France in Paris, Ernst vom Rath on 9 November 1938 by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris. ;)

I used to respect them, then I found out about their ties to the JFK assassination, the attacks against the USS Liberty, their involvement in the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon, their involvement in 9/11, and countless other evil deeds.

And now this..

When revealed, the truth hurts.

After the October missile attacks by Hezbollah from Gaza, 500,000 Jews fled Israel.

But do not expect to see Rabbi Dov Zackheim among them. He was Comptroller at the Pentagon before the attacks of 9-11-2001 and he fled to Israel after embezzling $2.9 Trillion from Pentagon coffers.

That part of the Pentagon that was hit on 9-11 was where the auditors were poring over the books to find the fraud. ;)

THIS is Israel

Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me. ;)

Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me.

I'm voting for the man and felon they're calling Hitler come Monday or on 05Nov2024.

I'm flummoxed by TDS.

This has to stop. This really has to stop!!! pic.twitter.com/YZHBOsZokw— Rania (@umyaznemo) October 27, 2024

They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East.

The Palestinians are really Jordanians and Egyptians.

The Palestinians need to quit occupying Israel, go home to Egypt or Jordan and release the hostages.

If they keep firing on Israel from schools and hospitals they will die and they put their families at risk.

Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God.

So this will go on and on.

Why does Hamas still have hostages?

Your position is someone takes your people hostage and you can't do anything about it and you are responsible if the hostage takers fire missiles from you schools, hospitals. It is not a reasonable position.

Yes people die in war. Israel has rightly decided they aren't going to take it anymore.

That is my view and it is the right view.

I wish Iran (who took American hostages) would just realize that they are evil dictators who make women put bags on their heads or kill them. Would repend and quit funding this nonsense. But they wont because they worship the pedophile murderer Mohammad.

Iran and Israel were friends before the Muslim kooks took over.

Why is that old woman squatting on Israeli soil?

Well, if the caption is true that her family has lived in the house "for generations" I suppose that old lady was there because she was born there. Yes, I agree it's kind of hard to get past that kind of audacity!

Settlers stealing clothes from Palestinians.

Since it's already established that stealing homes from Palestinians is justified as God's will, we don't need to bother questioning whether this video is real as we already know Israeli settlers are fully entitled to anything and everything Palestinians own. In fact, we should be surprised there aren't more videos like this!

Of course, endorsing this kind of behavior requires one to check their Christian beliefs at the door, but nothing is too costly to dispense with for God's glorious "Chosen People".

🚨🚨🚨#Disgusting
Zionist settlers steal Clothes from Palestinian 🇵🇸 Homes in Hebron‼️🤮 pic.twitter.com/HaHw8DOUFJ— SOFIEN TABOUBI (@TOUNESBELALB) October 27, 2024

They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East.

If I took less than 1% of your bank account, would that be acceptable?

I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree.

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God.

Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land.

Baron de Edom Schield's name on a piece of paper means nothing to God.

So this will go on and on.

Nah, only until Moshiach arrives, then he will destroy Edom.

"Saving Israel for last"

Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land.

You already lost that argument. You lost big. Edom is extinct.

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I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree.

Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.

If Israel did nothing they would be weak and the Muslims would just keep doing the same thing. You know that right.

100 percent Hamas's fault. That is the way I see it.

Yes there is tragedy and sadness. Why did Hama with Iran's blessing start this. Oh that is right they are muslim kooks who are brainwashed to kill Jews. It is in their unholy book.

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

Two different groups believe they own the land. I will go with the one that I believe is more justified.

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

I know you don't see it that way.

That is ok.

Nothing we say or do will change anything. We are "spectators".

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

If that was your ancestorial homeland. And if everyone around you wanted to exterminate you. You would think like Israel does.

And every true muslim around them wants to exterminate them.

They are in a fight for their very survival.

If all the Muslims left Israel, Israel would have no reason to fight them.

But they would still fight Israel since they are Israel and the Muslims hate the Bible and they hate the Jews and they hate the Christians and they hate the Hindus and they hate the Budhists and they hate the athiests and they hate the Michael Newtonists. The susis hate the shias and the shias hate the sunis.

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

The people with the most blood of ancient Israel is them is most likely the Palestinians, their current Muslim faith not withstanding. Fact is that before about 120 years ago, most people spend their whole lives and did within some 20 miles of where they were born.

Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

Edom is extinct.

Wait, no, the Edom Schields look fresh as daisies...

There's even an Edom Schield blvd in Tel Aviv...

Edom is alive and well...and waiting for the messiah!

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

No asshole. Any idiot can paste a picture and claim they alive. The encyclopedia and sources I have posted to you says they were wiped out. Just like the Bible says.

Only an idiot who posts a shield and says stop lights are red and that proves Edom exists would think something like that. In other words you moron.

I already had this discussion with you. You are to senile and forgetful to remember it obviously. You lost the debate as you offered zero documentation for your assinie claims.

Here is the thread where you couldn't put up shit.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=284712&Disp=29#C29

You're an idiot and a liar and generally a POS!

If you have found some proof besides a random photo on the internet please share it. But as of yet you haven't offered shit except your shit for brains.

There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)

Prove the USA has a Rothschild controlled central bank.

I know we have the Federal Reserve, which I don't think we should have. I would prefer constitutional money.

But I think you are wrong.

If you are correct than so be it. But you should show it.

. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews.

They are their descendants. You just use that talking point to justify your hatred of Gods Chosen People.

Are you a Christian? Lots of times non Christians try to make that point because they don't want to live up to Gods word. Not always but often.

Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

It all goes back to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote this document. It was presented to the Zionist Association of Great Briain an Ireland. It promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine which at that time was an Ottoman area. ;)

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8

"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment.

How could they be extinct? Are you calling God a liar?

Are you a Christian?

Isn't your fav song Highway To Hell by AC/DC?

It's like your anthem.

It's as if you've set your course for eternity.

The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8

"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment.

Why do you say it refers to the "last days"? Seriously I would like to know. "That day" seems to be referring to whatever time vs 7 is talking about. Can you explain?

7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.

8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

He is the longest-serving Prime Minister in Israel’s history. His father, Benzion Netanyahu (born Benzion Mileikowsky), a scholar, was a Polish Jewish emigrant, born in Warsaw, who moved with his family to Israel in 1920. His mother, Tzila (Segal), was born in Petah Tikva, Israel, of Lithuanian Jewish, Polish Jewish, and Belarusian Jewish descent.

And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."

And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."

That is horsepoo.

Provide a legitimate citation.

You can't.

Again, it is the money grubbing Jew that comes to the fore.

BTW, the French did the right thing to not allow Israeli athletes into the country for the Olympics to protest the war in Gaza. ;)

Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.

So you are guilty of all abortions conducted/enabled/paid for by the Biden Administration?

Check out this link: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/In-that-Day

With Obadiah you would need to reconcile the usage with other prophecies, and the evidence you clearly see happening before your eyes.

I've explained all of this to you but you reject it.

Are you a Calvanist?

Absolutely not.

Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church.

He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians.

You're a kook.

Sure thing skippy.

Unlike you, I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people up into piles of bloody mush.

And since Palestinians ARE descended from the original inhabitants of that land, and since you support their slaughter, you are a murderous anti- semite.

Civilians should never be considered military targets, no matter their religion or ethnicity.

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

Uh huh, so THEY said.

If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine?

That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done, since they're mostly of European descent and whose family migrated there in the early 20th century.

You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages

Sure thing kook.

Realistically I was serving in the USMC when Iran took our hostages and was assigned to a special group that was prepared to go teach them a lesson.

Carter never gave the order to go, but we were ready.

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never served a day in the US Armed Forces, you're just a armchair warrior with a seething hatred for people you don't know or even try to understand.

It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity.

Imagine raiding someone's property holding a gun and still consider yourself "the innocent who is threatened and endangered"

Israeli settlers backed by the army destroy the house of a christian palestinian family and seize their land. pic.twitter.com/NAx4sCjWU7— Abier (@abierkhatib) October 28, 2024

They might be a Hamas terrorist. No I don't know that and neither do you.

Realistically I was serving in the USMC

Marines are almost always patriots and honorable. But I have no reason to believe that about you.

https://usmclife.com/marine-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-killing-wife- with-his-mistress/

It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity.

Lets see. You support Hamas terrorists attacking Israel on Oct 7 which started all this.

You think Israel shouldn't respond and they should ignore their hostages that are being held captive tortured and raped.

You need a new brain.

If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine?

That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done

The truth is not in you.

I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people

Rational people would disagree with that sicko statement.

Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church.

He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians.

Never heard that before. Maybe I'll look it up.

I agree your heart is in the right place.

"in that day" in Obadiah is talking about what ever happened in verse 7.

It doesn't say in latter days or the last days.

It was talking about verse 7.

Here are some examples where "in that day" is not talking about the end times. Just a handful of examples.

Exodus 8:22 And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the Lord in the midst of the earth.

And Pharaoh said unto him, Get thee from me, take heed to thyself, see my face no more; for in that day thou seest my face thou shalt die.

And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the Lord did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.

Then the priest shall reckon unto him the worth of thy estimation, even unto the year of the jubile: and he shall give thine estimation in that day, as a holy thing unto the Lord.

Ok there are a few examples to make my point.

Now back to Obadiah. Here are the verses.

All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign? I don't think you can. You have to just pretend it seems to me. If you can it is your job as a "watchman" to prove it. For me and the lurkers.

I will listen to what you say and read the verses truthfully like I always try to do.

So please take a look at this. Here is an explanation. It seems logical to me. If there are some errors please tell me and the lurkers where they are. I thank you in advance. I'm just looking for the truth and I genuinely think you are wrong. If you would like to discuss things civilly we can do that. Or you can go the other way. Whichever you choose is how I will respond to you from this day forward.

When were Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)? translate prophecies against Edom audio Answer

A major factor in determining when Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom were fulfilled rests on when the book was written. The prophet mentions a recent invasion of Jerusalem (1:10-11), which helps to narrow down the date of writing. Jerusalem experienced four different invasions in Old Testament times, yet only two fit the time period under discussion in Obadiah. The early date would be about 841 B.C., when the Philistines and Arabians attacked Jerusalem during the reign of King Jehoram (2 Chronicles 21:16-17). The later date would be approximately 586 B.C., following the invasion of Babylon (2 Kings 24-25).

If the earlier date is correct, Obadiah would be the earliest of the prophetic books in the Old Testament. Those who hold this position refer to 2 Kings 8:20, which mentions Edom setting up its own king: “In his days Edom revolted from the rule of Judah and set up a king of their own.” Also used to support this date are comparisons of 2 Chronicles 21:16-17 with Joel 3:3-6 and Obadiah 1:11-12; as well as similarities between Obadiah 1:1-9 and Jeremiah 49:7-22.

If the later date is correct, the prophecy of Obadiah regarding Edom’s doom is more dramatic. Babylon completed its invasion of Jerusalem under King Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. In the fifth century B.C., a people called the Nabateans defeated the Edomites and forced them from the city of Petra. The interval between prediction and fulfillment would, therefore, have been very short.

Regardless of the exact date, the predictions against Edom have already been fulfilled. Edom was removed from its land in the fifth century B.C., and there are no survivors of Edom today. This fulfilled the prediction in Obadiah 1:18: “They shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau.” Some first-century leaders, such as Herod the Great, still traced their ancestry to Edom, but all mention of Edomites fades after the Jewish Wars of that era. At the end of the 4th century, Jerome referenced the land of Idumea (Edom), but the people of the region had long since disappeared.